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CA: Area reacts to gun ruling

Discussion in 'Legal' started by shooterx10, May 9, 2003.

  1. shooterx10

    shooterx10 Member

    May 8, 2003
    Area reacts to gun ruling
    Decision denying right to bear arms pits gun owners, gun-control faction
    Staff Writers

    Gun owners and dealers took a hit this week when a federal appeals court refused to reconsider a ruling that individuals have no right to bear arms.

    Reaction to the court's decision was mixed Thursday between people who are recreational gun users or gun dealers and those who believe firearms don't belong in society.

    "That decision is a joke, and the U.S. Supreme Court will overrule them,' said Ray Beeson, owner of Victor Valley Shooters, an Apple Valley gun shop.

    But Norma Garrigus of Big Bear City said she was pleased by the decision by justices of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

    "If they can keep guns out of the hands of idiots, I am all for it,' Garrigus said.

    In a 2-1 decision in December, a panel of justices upheld California's 1999 amended Assault Weapons Control Act, which bans the sale, manufacturing and import of weapons such as grenade launchers, AK-47s, semiautomatic handguns that have "high capacity' magazines and guns that can be fitted with silencers or scopes.

    On Tuesday, a majority of the 25 justices of the 9th Circuit voted not to reconsider the ruling that declared that the Second Amendment only protects states' rights to organize and maintain militias.

    Six justices dissented and wanted to reconsider the ruling.

    Gun dealer Don Dayton, manager of Hesperia Pawn Shop, disagrees with the decision.

    "This is a shame, and I'm very concerned,' he said. "This could lead to the government taking away all our guns.'

    The Second Amendment gave Americans the right to bear arms, he said.

    "Private gun ownership deters foreign invasion,' Dayton said. "But if this keeps up, one day the courts are going to take all of our guns away, saying it's for our own safety.' :cuss:

    Tony Rolland of Riverside said the court decision is reactionary and that some weapons are considered assault weapons when they really aren't.

    "It's not a deterrent for someone who wants to do something wrong,' Rolland said. "It's a deterrent to those who want to protect themselves in their own homes.'

    Marilu Castillo of San Bernardino said she thinks the court's ruling is the perfect crime-prevention tool.

    "I think it's a good thing,' she said. "We have a lot of crazy people with guns that shouldn't have them.'

    A June decision by the same court declared the Pledge of Allegiance was an unconstitutional endorsement of religion when recited in public schools. That case is pending before the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Recalling the pledge case, Beeson said, "the Ninth Circuit Court is known for its idiotic opinions. This latest ruling disturbs me very much. The Second Amendment was approved to prevent the government from becoming a tyrant.'

    In Oak Hills, firearms dealer Joe Soldano said liberal views expressed by the 9th U.S. Circuit jurists may clash with opinions of the Supreme Court.

    "If this case goes before the U.S. Supreme Court,' he said, "I don't think it will be as biased and liberal as the appeals court in San Francisco.'
  2. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Senior Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Nevada, escaped from the PDRK via Idaho.
    The people who support the Ninth's decision, but aren't rabid anti-gun activists, rarely understand the extent of California's gun laws. They are the same people, who when a riot on the scale of the Watts Riot of 1965 or the Rodney King Riot of 1992 comes to visit their neighborhood, are shocked and surprised when good, sane people like themselves have to wait ten days to buy a gun.
  3. twoblink

    twoblink Senior Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Houston, Texas
    Oh, so legislating stupidity works huh?

    During 9/11... My "non-gun friends" rushed to the gun store, only to find the stupid 10 day waiting period that THEY voted for to be a hinderance.. And they phoned me, wanting to borrow a gun. NOPE!!

    I'm surprised how a Rodney King Riot or a 9/11 makes Sheeple into "I want a gun-ple"...
  4. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Six out of twenty-five? What a disgrace!
  5. tyme

    tyme Senior Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Norma was apparently born stupid; no legislation was needed. :)
  6. mini14jac

    mini14jac Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Notice how most of the media is ignoring this?
    They were all over it when these boneheads outlawed the Pledge of Allegiance.

    I only heard about it in this article from Baptist Press:


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