California M82A1 Barrett

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Too bad they didn't make the magazine on the side. that would allow easier loading from a bench or prone position. Neat idea though.
 
Why are they only making 100 and not keeping it on as a special order item? :confused:
 
By the time he retrofits the mag and sells it for the same price as usual, he's probably not making any money on them.

If all 100 sell very quickly, maybe he'll do more.
 
Nonsense

Why a hinged magazine....So after a couple rounds of joy you can't just slap another mag in? :eek: :(
 
Why a hinged magazine....So after a couple rounds of joy you can't just slap another mag in?
Exactly. The SKS-style mag was the only way he could get a semi-auto .500 approved in Cali for the three month sale. Its all we can get, but he came through anyway.
 
Are beltfed semi autos legal in Kali?
Maybe he could make a beltfed semiauto version of the 82.
If it is feasible, it would take care of the magazine BS.
 
AHHMMM, If you don't know what you are talking about, it is best to keep quiet.

Beltfeds are legal in Kali, I know, a friend and I just both picked up a couple of 1919's. We can't link any ammo more that 10 rounds to comply with the 10 round limit on magazines (go figure). But if you have a few belts in our closet you bought before the the ban, then it is grandfathered in.:rolleyes:

M2's (50 cals) are also legal (that is until the end of the year). It is a bad state for newbies just starting their collecting as they are resigned to m-14, m1a's, su-16 etc.

But for those of us that have been collecting for a while have plenty of grandfathered AKs, ARs, Galils, etc.

As for the Cali Barretts, I'd be interested in knowing if the swing magazine thingie would be reversable in case I ever leave Kali?

Got to ask Barrett, but then again, I've already had a few 50's, not sure I'd drop 7 grand on a rifle.
 
Forgive me, but I have to ask...
How do they identify the grandfathered belts as opposed to the "new" belts?
 
I guess they'd have to take your word for it. :evil:

As there are no serial numbers whatso ever on the belts, mags, etc.
 
Just another reason for me to be thankful the the USAF sent me back to Colorado from Kali in June. I don't have a need for a 50, but it is nice to be able to buy one if I so choose.
 
Interesting. I thought they banned belt feds. I just re-read PC 12276.1 and sure enough, it doesn't say anything about belt fed weapons. However, it does say that a "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device. So does that mean your belt-fed rifle must comply with SB23 and you cannot have any of the evil features? I would assume it does so you can get away with 1919's because they do not have a pistol grip or a flash suppressor. The M2HB would also work because it does not have a pistol grip or flash suppressor.

The real question is if a linked belt of ammo is shot, doesn't it become unlinked? In that case, you cannot re-link the ammo back to the belt's original size of over 10 rounds because you would be creating a new ammunition feeding device with a capacity over 10 rounds. Aren't 1919's fed by belts and not links?
 
1919's take both a cloth belt and metal links (with a $25 dollar adapter thingie). Using the cloth belts you can load and reload the belt as many times as your heart desires.

The fact the 1919 and m2's do not have a pistol grip "protruding consipiciously (s/p?) beneath the gun but rather behind the gun makes it exept. Plus they do not come with a flash hider (although one can be added) minuses another "evil" feature and neither one is named on any bans.

So their fair game in kali. Kinda ironic if you ask me. I can't buy an AR or AK as they are too dangerous but the beltfed machine guns specificially designed to mow down the charging enemy is not considered "dangerous". Go figure. Good thing I have the smart people in the Guberment to think for me.:banghead:
 
As for the Cali Barretts, I'd be interested in knowing if the swing magazine thingie would be reversable in case I ever leave Kali?

You can, I talked to one of the Tech guys at Barrett and he said "Oh, sure you can. All we do is take a fully standard M82A1 and tack-weld a hinge on it! It'd come off in a few seconds with a grinder. The gun is a Full M82A1, plus one part."

:D) :D) :D)



As to re-linking fired belts/links. Grey area BIG TIME if you fire all of the belt. It has not been defined as far as I know. It would be intresting to write the DOJ a letter asking for legal opinion on that.

I suspect the answer will be "Since the act of firing simply DAMAGES the existing "pre-ban ammunition feeding device", repair is still legal" or such.

Of course, if you leave 11 rounds in the belt, you're always free to 'grow' your existing pre-ban 'ammunition feeding device' clearly under existing law.

The M2HB's pistol grip is not "below the action" so it is fully legal (at least untill the unrelated .50BMG ban kicks in. Then we'll just have 1919s!)
 
Ah, sorry about the confustion. Last time a thread came up on belt feds I remember the belts and guns being banned but I guess I remembered incorrectly. I should be able to remember with crystal clarity, it was only 6 months and a few thousand threads ago ;)
 
Thank you, God.

The closest I'll ever get to California is Terlingua, Texas. People around there have only one complaint when you set off a dynamite charge: Why didn't you let us know so we could come watch?
 
If someone had a machine shop, couldnt they sell semiauto M2 sideplates to Kali residents? Let them buy the kit and have it assembled later once they get the money together?

Kharn
 
If it's convienient or useful, it's probably banned.

*High Five*

That also means that cops' guns should be banned too, they're too good...

lol, "useful" by our definition, so who defines it? uhh.....
 
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