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Call for the Minuteman Goes Forth Anew

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Feb 21, 2006

Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, and G. Gordon Liddy have something in common: They both believe in fighting back.

Gilchrist’s passion is for border security, and he has formed the Minuteman Project to bring citizen involvement into the breach left wide open by the failure of the Bush administration to close our porous border with Mexico. Liddy typically approaches fighting terrorism as a personal call to action, articulating the responsibility each American has to “tackle terrorism” within our business lives and our families.

Neither gentleman wants to leave all the firepower with the authorities, articulating clearly our Second Amendment rights to defend ourselves. Both are military war veterans (Liddy in Korea and Gilchrist in Vietnam) and, even though aging, their determination shows forth in a youthful resolve that defending America has always been our responsibility as citizens. Neither gentleman is comfortable leaving the defense of America up to the government.

In his new book, Fight Back: Tackling Terrorism, Liddy Style, the message is loud and clear:

“The Liddy approach is to FIGHT BACK, a strategy built on the core belief that what makes this country great is that individual Americans can and will act aggressively in defending themselves, their loved ones, and their way of life.”

Gilchrist is equally emphatic on why he created the Minuteman Project:

“Too many in Washington, from both political parties, have tried to ignore the crisis in illegal immigration. Law-abiding Americans are sick and tired of the flood of illegal immigrants coming across our borders. It affects our economy, our jobs, our health and education systems, and every hard-working tax-paying American. It is tantamount to modern-day slave trading.”

The Minuteman Memorial standing today in Concord, Mass., pays tribute to the “shot heard around the world” that was fired on April 19, 1776, when British troops were fired upon by local militia assembled on Lexington Green. The American Revolution did not depend upon a strong federal government at the ready to protect the Massachusetts colonists. What was needed to secure freedom in 1776 was individual citizens who took up arms and gathered together in their own defense.

Today Americans who ask what they can do to defend themselves are likely to be called “vigilantes,” seen as renegades acting outside the law. How is it possible that we have come so far from our original fighting spirit since 1776?

In 2006, we import approximately 1.75 million barrels of oil a day from Mexico. Does the Bush administration fail to secure our Southern border simply because we want the flow of Mexican oil to continue? Why is the Bush administration talking about “wood chips and switch grass” when there is ample oil to drill in Alaska and offshore?

Gilchrist has put out the call for Minuteman, realizing that the government we need to resist today may unfortunately be our own. When will America wake up to the reality that the problem today, not the solution, is continued dependence upon government? Liddy is right -- Americans need to fight back.
 
From time to time I'll catch a few minutes of Sean Hannity before his whining and failure to listen to his callers drives me to another station...

Yesterday he was talking to a ~80 year old WWII vet who bought an oceanfront home in NJ in the '60s. His town is now using eminent domain in an effort to raise the tax base, to seize his home/property. They are offering 'just compensation' of course...$300K (nevermind comps in the neighborhood are selling for $1.6mil).

I am wondering when we start calling for minutemen to defend private property from eminent domain seizures.

I would guess that 10-20 men armed with rifles standing guard outside that guy's house would take the wind out of the sails of whatever pissant city mayor who is contemplating use of eminent domain to try to inflate his city's tax income.
 
On an issue related to illegal border crossing, I just heard an interview with Chris Simcox who is calling for Bush's impeachment over his failure to do anything about the borders. haven't found an article yet.
 
I would guess that 10-20 men armed with rifles standing guard outside that guy's house would take the wind out of the sails of whatever pissant city mayor who is contemplating use of eminent domain to try to inflate his city's tax income.

Really? I doubt it. SWAT would roll over those guys, but quick. You'd see an armored car or two and a little bit of negotiation, then an end to the matter.
 
I don't think so.

That would be political suicide for whatever mayor/police chief/sherriff involved.

I don't think there's any way a municipality would invite the kind of media coverage that would come with running over a group of eminent domain resistors.
 
neoncowboy said:
I don't think so.

That would be political suicide for whatever mayor/police chief/sherriff involved.

I don't think there's any way a municipality would invite the kind of media coverage that would come with running over a group of eminent domain resistors.

I'm thinking Waco & Ruby Ridge etc.
They would paint them as anti- Government Militia and racists so there would be no outcry. I'd like to see it though.
CT
 
I'm thinking Waco & Ruby Ridge etc.

The difference would be one of jurisdiction.

Locals defending a local property against eminent domain seizure wouldn't justify a FBI response...the local PD SWAT team would be in charge. That would go one of 2 ways:

1. the local gov't would take responsibility. Local SWAT would be deployed. When confronted with armed, but otherwise peacefully assembled resistance to their seizure (who were talking to the press about their cause and the injustice of this seizure) they'd have few options: either arrest the resistance (and get shot at trying), or go away and leave them alone.

2. The feds would take over...on fabricated grounds. This would be a heavy handed response and would raise a lot of questions. I think this would *create* a lot of anti-gov't sentiment in that community. What message would this send: 'we'll take your property if we want and if you don't like it we'll call in the FBI or National Guard'. Scary. Maybe they go as far as to raid/incinerate the resistance members, but I don't think it'd get that far...that would look WAY too bad for the gov't.

Either way, the resistance wins...though maybe at the cost of some blood.

If it happened in my neighborhood, I'd volunteer.

I think as this stuff gets more and more press, resistance like I'm describing is likely.
 
Great - a convicted criminal (Liddy) supports a vigilante. Didn't President Bush refer to these people as "vigilantes"? They should leave border protection up to the professionals. President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.
 
Merkin.Muffley said:
Great - a convicted criminal (Liddy) supports a vigilante. Didn't President Bush refer to these people as "vigilantes"? They should leave border protection up to the professionals. President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.

What professionals ?? The Border Patrol?? Sure, they are professional in their job, but there are far from enough of them to do the job. Of course Bush took the PC route and called them, "vigilantes". They are anything but. IMHO, they are citizens trying to protect this country. Were shots ever fired at the illegals by these so-called, "vigilantes"?? I don't think so. AND, if there were ever any shots fired, I think I can rest assured that those shots would be only in self-defense. From what I understand of these "vigilantes", they sit in/near their vehicles, cell phone in hand and call the Border Patrol to inform them of the illegal entry and possibly take care of the problem. As I understood it in Arizona, the Border Patrol was directed to ignore their calls.
 
Merkin.Muffley said:
President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.

Better put your flame suit on. Many people here don't like Bush's immigration solutions, and especially not those which offer amnesty to illegal aliens.
 
Merkin.Muffley said:
Great - a convicted criminal (Liddy) supports a vigilante. Didn't President Bush refer to these people as "vigilantes"? They should leave border protection up to the professionals. President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.
Hmmmm...if I remember right, it's 4 egg whites and a half a cup of flaked Ivory soap to every half gallon of gas.
:cuss: :cuss:
Biker
 
Biker said:
Hmmmm...if I remember right, it's 4 egg whites and a half a cup of flaked Ivory soap to every half gallon of gas.
:cuss: :cuss:
Biker
LOL, or 36 parts gasoline, 1 part ethanol, and 28 parts flaked soap;)
 
Biker said:
Man, we should get together and collaborate on a THR cookbook!
Biker:)

LMAO, as long as our information was correct unlike other "cookbooks.":D
 
Yeah, there is a racist anti-racist group here in Philly protesting the call for Minutemen.


__________________________________________________________________

Thursday, February 16 2006 @ 06:39 PM PST
HATE GROUP TO MEET IN PHILADELPHIA SUBURBS!
Phone Jam to Shut Down the Minutemen Recruiting Drive in Philadelphia!

Call the Valley Forge Convention Center and demand that this meeting be canceled: 610-354-8212 and 610-354-8213. Also, please call GF Management – they help to manage the Valley Forge Convention Center: 215-972-2222 and express your displeasure!

***PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY***

HATE GROUP TO MEET IN PHILADELPHIA SUBURBS!
Phone Jam to Shut Down the Minutemen Recruiting Drive in Philadelphia!

Call the Valley Forge Convention Center and demand that this meeting be canceled: 610-354-8212 and 610-354-8213. Also, please call GF Management – they help to manage the Valley Forge Convention Center: 215-972-2222 and express your displeasure!

The Minutemen Project, a Conservative anti-immigration group with strong links to, and overlapping membership with, violent white supremacist and neo-Nazi organizations has announced plans to hold a recruitment meeting in Valley Forge, PA on Saturday, February 25, 2005.

The meeting, scheduled to take place at the Valley Forge Convention Center (1160 First Avenue, King of Prussia, PA, 19406), is set to feature Chris Simcox, co-founder of the Minutemen Project, as the main speaker. Simcox is the gun-toting founder of the group, which since April has been arming itself, wandering the U.S.-Mexican border in search of "illegal immigrants", and detaining individuals at gunpoint.

Minutemen have openly discussed setting up sniper posts near the border, with the goal of shooting anyone attempting to cross.

Contrary to its claims, the Minutemen Project does not promote a policy of immigration reform. Instead, they promote a program of hate and intolerance; an extremist policy of stopping all non-white immigration into this country. They are a xenophobic group that blames immigration for everything that they are unhappy with. Last fall, the Minutemen were claiming that illegal immigrants were responsible for the sudden rise in gas prices in the United States.

The Minutemen have well-established ties to known white supremacist groups. Minutemen co-founder Jim Gilchrist has been involved with the neo-Nazi affiliated Council of Conservative Citizens for a number of years. In addition, members of the infamous National Alliance have claimed membership in the Minutemen Project and were identified participating in border "patrols" last spring and summer with the group. Over the years, the National Alliance has been tied to numerous violent crimes, such as the assassination of a Jewish radio host in Denver, and several high-profile robberies. The National Alliance has the dubious distinction of claiming Timothy McVeigh – the man responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing – as a supporter.

On July 30th 2005, the Minutemen front group, Save Our State, held an anti-immigrant rally in California. Numerous members of white supremacist groups attended this rally, and were caught on film carrying flags emblazoned with Nazi swastikas and Confederate insignia. They were also seen repeatedly giving Nazi salutes. One of the neo-Nazis who had been holding a swastika flag was also photographed holding a "Save Our State" banner. So much for plausible deniability!

We call upon everyone who is concerned about this meeting to call and email the Valley Forge Convention Center and demand that it be canceled. We will not stand idly by while fascist and neo-Nazis are allowed to organize in our community. We are calling for an emergency phone jam of the conference center, and are letting it be known that if the meeting is not canceled, the community will be out in force to protest this fascist scum!

Call the Valley Forge Convention Center Sales Office at 610-354-8212 and 610-354-8213 and let them know how you feel about them laying out the welcome mat for fascists. You can also fax the sales office at (610) 992-2884, or email the Director of Sales at [email protected] or the Convention Center Sales Manager at [email protected]. Also, please also contact GF Management (1811 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103), the Philadelphia firm who helps to manage the Valley Forge Convention Center. They can be reached by telephone at 215-972-2222, by fax at 215-972-2259, and by email at [email protected].

Please forward this message widely – together we can shut them down!!

In solidarity,

Philadelphia Residents Against Racism
 
The Minutemen Project, a Conservative anti-immigration group with strong links to, and overlapping membership with, violent white supremacist and neo-Nazi organizations has announced plans to hold a recruitment meeting in Valley Forge, PA on Saturday, February 25, 2005.

Maybe President Bush was being nice when he described the minutemen as "vigilantes".
 
Classic counter move. Noble sounding name. Incendary charges of racism. Guilt by association. These very tactics were used here on THR a year or so ago. Some guy rode through making the same claims providing expert sources like Morris Dees of the Southern Policy Law Center. Little did he know that Morris had his own issues which served to disqualify his criticism.

I check up on Philadelphia Residents Against Racism and could find no reference on the web or phone directories or hard news. The only thing I found was a press release. Sounds to me like a nut with a fax machine.

What Bush said was unacceptable and IMNSHO betrayed his true beliefs about America and our place in the world. Bush is standing full face against the expressed demands of a bunch of Americans. He is perfectly entitled to do so. What he understands is there is a price to be paid. It is my assessment that both he and his party supports will pay a high price. Slinging the racists tag around serves no purpose. Criminal immigration is a policy food fight, not racism.
 
neoncowboy said:
I am wondering when we start calling for minutemen to defend private property from eminent domain seizures.

I would guess that 10-20 men armed with rifles standing guard outside that guy's house would take the wind out of the sails of whatever pissant city mayor who is contemplating use of eminent domain to try to inflate his city's tax income.
A few dozen folks in Waco, Texas did something very similar about a decade ago. They used their rifles to defend their right to practice their own religion. Not exactly eminent domain, but the basic idea is the same.

The governent burned them alive. :mad:
 
Merkin.Muffley said:
Great - a convicted criminal (Liddy) supports a vigilante. Didn't President Bush refer to these people as "vigilantes"? They should leave border protection up to the professionals. President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.

I'm no fan of Liddy, but I might just have to check out what he has to say before I call him an idiot.
(Granted, I've called him an idiot enough before, but from what I've read above, he might accidentally sorta be on almost the right track, kinda.)
 
Nitrogen said:
I'm no fan of Liddy, but I might just have to check out what he has to say before I call him an idiot.
(Granted, I've called him an idiot enough before, but from what I've read above, he might accidentally sorta be on almost the right track, kinda.)

I didn't call Liddy an idiot - I referred to him as a "convicted criminal" - which is what he is. My post is below.


Great - a convicted criminal (Liddy) supports a vigilante. Didn't President Bush refer to these people as "vigilantes"? They should leave border protection up to the professionals. President Bush has a plan to deal with this immigration problem, I don't understand why Congress is dragging their feet and not implementing it. I don't know all the details of it, but from what I've read it offers amesty to the estimated 12 million criminals currently in this country. That sounds like a good plan to me.
 
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