came in today's e-mail, read it and weep, or better yet, raise hell!

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Sponsors Try Sneaking National ID Card onto Iraq War/Tsunami Aid Bill
-- National ID card is bad for gun owners, bad for constitutional
government

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

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"Republicans swept to power in Congress 10 years ago championing
state prerogatives, and one of their first acts was to repeal federal
speed-limit requirements. Another was aimed at ending unfunded state
mandates. So last week's House vote to require costly and intrusive
federal standards for state drivers licenses is a measure of how far
the party has strayed from these federalist principles."
--Wall Street Journal, Feb. 19, 2005
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Thursday, March 3, 2005


It's now time to shift our focus to the U.S. Senate.

You may remember that the House of Representatives recently passed
H.R. 418, the National ID card bill. But the bill has been met with
a lukewarm reception in the Senate.

So House sponsors are now trying to increase the bill's chances by
sneaking it onto a politically popular piece of legislation -- the
Iraq War/Tsunami relief bill.

H.R. 418 was largely supported in the House because it purports to
deal with illegal immigration and terrorism.

Too bad that H.R. 418 does not do what it is supposed to do:

* Illegals will still be able to get a driver's license without proof
of citizenship in those states that permit it (about 11).

* Illegals will still be able to pour across our southern border
because funding for only three miles of the 1,000 mile border was
provided in H.R. 418.

* And terrorists will be able to fly with a driver's license or a
passport -- and pilots are still largely unarmed thanks to the
refusal of the federal government to comply with two laws enacted by
Congress.


H.R. 418 is Bad for Constitutional Government

The Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says, "The powers not
delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by
it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the
people."

So, what part of "States" don't they understand? Or, to put it
another way, where is it that the Constitution mentions federal
control over drivers' licenses?

Yet, a faction of usually pro-freedom representatives in the House
seem determined to put the federal government in charge of who may or
may not get a driver's license -- perhaps the last major prerogative
retained by the states.

This is the same group that is embracing a $2.57 trillion federal
budget -- almost three times the level of federal spending only 25
years ago. They have simply lost their way.

Under section 202(b) of H.R. 418 -- slated to be added to the
"supplemental appropriations bill" -- the federal government gives
itself the authority to determine every feature on your driver's
license. Some features are explicitly listed, but these enumerated
features are "A MINIMUM." In addition to these, the government can
require your fingerprints, your retina scan, your concealed carry
status, or any other requirement it chooses -- by executive fiat.


Backdoor Gun Control

Under section 202(c), the government grants itself the power to
determine what you need to do to get a driver's license -- and who
may or may not get one. Some requirements are listed, but these
enumerated requirements are "A MINIMUM."

The government can impose any requirements it chooses by executive
fiat. If, under a Hillary Clinton administration, a militia group --
or GOA or NRA -- were determined to be a "terrorist organization,"
your driver's license would be gone.

But that's not all: Under section 203, your personal information
could be turned over to a non-secure database accessible to, among
others, the corrupt and crime-ridden Mexican police.

And, under section 202(a)(2), the federal government would solely
determine "whether a State is meeting the requirements" imposed by
that very same federal government!


Spurious Arguments in Favor of H.R. 418

So what are conservative politicians saying about this monstrosity?

They say the bill mentions nothing about retina scans. And that's
true. Instead, it gives the federal government an unlimited grant of
power to determine every feature on your driver's license -- and it
demands that you trust the government not to abuse its powers.

Have these people been asleep for the last thirty years? Have they
not heard of Ruby Ridge? Or Waco? Or Elian Gonzalez?


How Officials Abuse Records on Honest Citizens

Columnist Paul Craig Roberts has been critical of the
unconstitutional growth of federal police power. He found out after
having been "randomly" pulled aside for intensive screening at
airports that he had been put on the No Fly List.

Every time he flies he has to prove he is not a bomber by submitting
to intensive screening. And this is what they do to an ex-Marine and
ex-cop!

Roberts' case illustrates the kind of abuse that a national data base
is already being used for.

Gun owners have long experienced the unconstitutional requirement of
proving who they are when they buy a gun. The problem becomes more
than theoretical when a buyer's name is the same as a prohibited
person.

The buyer usually -- even if it takes a few days -- is able to prove
who they are. But the records, like the No Fly List, are not
permanently corrected. The citizen-suspect must prove his innocence
each time he buys a gun or flies.


More Spurious Arguments

In the 9/11 bill last year, Congress included some scary National ID
card provisions. Those same Congressmen are arguing that H.R. 418
would limit the scope of those provisions. However, the simple fact
is that a LIMITLESS grant of power does not limit anything.

The politicians argue that the problem of illegal immigration is so
profound that it overrides the provisions of the Constitution.

We agree that the problem is severe. But H.R. 418 would not bar
states from issuing drivers' licenses to illegal aliens --
particularly those who have applied for asylum or status adjustment.
Instead, it penalizes American citizens, while coddling illegal
aliens.

ACTION: Please write your two United States Senators and ask them to
reject any effort to add National ID Cards to the Iraq/Tsunami Relief
bill.

You can use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by
visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers
are also available).


----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

A number of House members seem determined to give the federal
government the power to mandate every feature of a driver's license
-- and to dictate who may or may not obtain one.

The bill -- H.R. 418 -- would list "MINIMUM" standards. But its
grant of power to the federal government to control every aspect of a
driver's license is limitless.

As a gun owner -- and an American who actually believes the
Constitution -- I think this federal power-grab is very dangerous.

Now, these House sponsors appear determined to sneak their bill onto
legislation to fund the war in Iraq and provide tsunami relief.

Please resist their effort to tie their agenda to legislation
intended to help victims of tragedy and support American troops in
the Middle East.

Sincerely,


POSTERS NOTE:

I prefer to write my own notes/letters, however the above might be helpful. Re method of dispatch, our congress and senate critters seem still to hide behind their wall of sanitation or irradiation, so forget "snail mail", Faxing works, e-mail works, and the telephone works, however re this note the following. Of the several toll free numbers that reached Capitol Switchboard, the last was 1-888-508-2974. It "died" as of the the other day. Message indicates "disconnected, no further information available". Could it be that the motley pesants, in the auditory sense of the term made so bold as to dirty the carpets of those congressional and senate offices, thereby disturbing the quiet deliberations of the "quality" that therein abide? Say it isn't so Joe, say it isn't so.
 
Hello everyone.â„¢

Still, what can they do if I don't have my ID on me?

Whenever I go out I usually don't bring ID.

:confused: Hum...."I have nothing to say."...might get more use :uhoh:
 
what can they do if I don't have my ID on me?
They can throw you into a cage until you find it.

Not kidding. Once a national ID is established, "you" are legally the card/papers/biometric, not your mind/body/soul. No papers = no you. Unregistered people become illegal. If you can't prove on demand you are registered, then you will be presumed illegal. At best you will be denied services (travel, gov't benefits, etc.), at worst you will be denied existence (jailed until ID can be established; God forbid someone steals your identity as the gov't won't tolerate two of "you" so one must go).
 
What's terrifying is how many "conservatives" think a National ID is a perfectly good, even vital, idea.
 
How long before...

...we have to have a tatoo on our foreheads. It seems to me that a certain race about 60 years ago were required to have "papers" by a certain "liberal" government. Hmmm... Maybe I should open a tatoo joint and lobby congress to speed that day up.

This is a great opportunity to see which of our congress critters is anti-liberty and which is pro-liberty. Anyone who voted for this abomination is anti-liberty and therefore anti-American. ...And therefore is a worse menace to the country than suicide bombers because they don't end their putrid existence with one blast.

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Those folks should be hung for treason trying to sneek such important legislation through. It is scary times ahead for us I fear.
 
Anyone ever wonder as to whatever became of THE LAND OF THE FREE, THE HOME OF THE BRAVE?
 
I think it formerly ceased to exist in the middle 1860's, but we are seeing more of its effects today. :(
 
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