Canemasters Canes

[Puncha]

Thanks for the imput on my previous threads. You guys are rather enlightening. I've pretty much decided that I will get myself a cane for self protection as the youth gangs in my area as getting more "adventurous". I'll be ordering something off the canemasters website and I'd like the opinions of all cane users forum members.

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If you could order any cane under $200 for free, which cane would you choose? What wood type would you pick? Please comment on the usefulness of any features selected and tell me what fighting styles best suit canes.

 

[geologist]

I have a hickory heart Canemaster with the serrated edge and the pointy handle. Great cane for an evening stroll.

 

[Puncha]

To Geologist:

Do the serrations marginally weaken the strength of the cane? Over in my country, guns are rare even among criminals and most attacks are carried out with crude clubs and kitchen cleavers. Are you confident that your cane could parry a hard blow from a club or 2 hacks from a cleaver?

Nice choice by the way....I am considering getting the same model myself.

Lastly, do you feel that the serrations attract unwanted attention? (It sort of "weaponises" the cane.)

 

[Carl Levitian]

I would not get anything but the plain street walking cane.

Yes, the file work and serations have to make a little differnce in the strength. In the hiking sticks I make, I don't even believe in drilling a small hole for a lanyard like many makers do. All that grooving may look nice, but it has to set up a stress line in the wood. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that when it breaks, it will break even with one of those grooves.

In your local in south east Asia, why not go for a rattan cane? Rattan is great stuff, lightweight for a very fast high velcity swing, and very tough due to the inner fiberous make up of the stuff.

 

[glistam]

I would think the serrations would cause some weakening, hard to say just how much. As to whether it makes it look more "weapon-like" you are in a better position to know that in your country. Perhaps show a picture to someone you know without telling them what the cane is for? And play naive, asking them what they think the serrations are for. Truth be told most cane fighters do just fine with a smooth shaft and flat or round horn.

A concern with a heavy blow from a club is not only breaking, but shock felt in your hands from the impact. It can hurt and make you drop your cane. This depends on the type of wood and if you have applied any kind of wrapping to the handle. There is also a wrong and a right way to parry, and that can mitigates breakage and shock. The main point is to arrest the swing of the club as early in it's arc as possible. Less movement in the swing means less force.

 

[hso]

I have a Cane Master cane and plain stock canes as well. I've modified the stock canes to open up the crook and provide an angled surface to the end of the crook. None of them have broken when "tested" on materials that simulate what you'd encounter in a self defense situation. This includes the more expensive CM combat canes.

The important thing is to have the cane made from the correct material so it will resist breaking. There should be plenty of good options there, but you can order half a dozen hickory stock canes for the price of a CM cane.

 

[JMusic]

I have the Black Belt cane from cane masters. Recently I pulled my achilles tendon and had to use the cane. After studding it a while it was obvious it was not a striking cane , but a two handed pushing, thrusting, hooking, slashing, pulling and raking cane. Striking and thrusting would not be affected . In my opinion I'd rather have a cane and flashlight over the gun and light.



Jim

 

[Puncha]

So if one were to wield a cane like a sword or cutlass, which canemasters model would guys choose?

 

[hso]

You don't wield a cane like a sword or cutlass. That would reduce your options. Best to get just a little training in the use of the cane.

Which model? It hardly matters if you're just going to use basic stick/cane techniques. I would stick with the least expensive.

 

[JMusic]

Weilding a can like a sword is not that effective as other weapons on the cane master. A cane is not a stick though it can fill in for one. It is much more devistating than that. Excluding a handgun its IMHO the best weapon that can be carried every day on earth.



Jim

 

[geologist]

I am certain that the material removed has made my cane weaker than a hickory heart stock cane. It has also made the cane lighter in weight so that it is less tiring to carry and faster to swing with the same effort. It has also created a narrow edge along which the force of the blow is concentrated, kind of like the difference between a hammerfist and a shuto strike.

TBS it has survived the many strikes that I have practiced on my heavy bag and BOB without any damage.

If I use it to strike an attacker on the temple, full power, I think that it will survive the impact. The BG, not too sure.

 

[lloveless]

I don't know about the area you live in, but surely there are some trees that shed limbs. I have walking sticks I've made from the same that have lasted 10 -20 years in spite of hard use. The cost was only my time. I beleive "Boon Sang Do" is a korean cane martial art.
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