Caracal reliability, service

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For me, accuracy is everything and holes on target speak volumes. When someone spoke praises of their newly acquired pistols, we had them run the USPSA match stages along with their familiar match pistols that were well broken in.

Often, higher priced "premium" pistols did not perform as well and "cheaper" pistols outshot their old favorites. I was very well versed with my Sig 226 but when I ran the same match stages with faster times using a new Glock 17 I was not familiar with, I was surprised to say the least in disbelief. I ran the stages repeatedly, but kept getting comparable double-tap accuracy with faster stage times with the G17.

Anyone had a chance to run the Caracal on USPSA/IDPA in comparison to other polymer pistols? For me, that would be the true "test by fire".

Thanks in advance!
 
If a person is buying a first pistol then maybe the caracal is not the best choice. If your someone that has assesory out a pistol then by a glock or what ever. If you simple want another pistol the caracal is a real option. Built to nato specs. Just a good solid pistol with good sights and great trigger that fits a hand better than does to many and more accurate than many out there makes it a very real option to buy. Price on my C was $431 out the door at my lgs.

Factory caracal shooter-http://www.facebook.com/teamjjracaza
 
never seen a striker pistol with the rear sight incorporated into the slide striker plate cover.
There isn't really slide striker plate cover. What appears to be the slide striker plate cover on the Caracal is actually the back of an assembly that fils most of the back half of the slide and contains the striker, striker spring and striker safety. The entire assembly is roll-pinned to the slide and the sight is part of the assembly.

Thanks to Shuler13 for the info on the recall notice.
 
It also darn hard to knock it off for way its mounted, Even with the aluminum front sight. Good for a service type pistol. No plastic sights ether as some have.
 
New feature!

Now with RECALL!
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http://www.caracal.ae/new/highlights.php

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"CARACAL F AND C PISTOL SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

Caracal USA has determined a potential condition of the trigger unit in a very limited number of Caracal F and C pistols that could possibly allow the pistol to fire when dropped onto a hard surface with a round in the chamber. Although Caracal USA has not received any reports of injuries, it is initiating this voluntary recall to protect the safety of its customers because of the remote possibility of an unintentional discharge occurring.

The affected Caracal pistols have serial numbers that begin with B, C, F, L, or M. If your pistol's serial number begins with one of these letters, please follow the following steps.

Only the Caracal F and C pistols with the serial numbers identified above are affected by this recall. If your pistol has a different serial number, it is not subject to the recall.

If you own a Caracal F or C pistol with a serial number identified as being affected by this recall, please do not load or fire your Caracal F or C pistol and contact us immediately to arrange to have the trigger unit replaced, completely free of charge, using the following steps:

Step 1 - Contact us at 205-655-7050 (Monday-Friday 8-5 Central Standard Time), or at [email protected] and provide the model and serial number of your pistol.

Step 2 - After contacting us, we will send you a prepaid overnight shipping box with instructions so that you can return your pistol to us, free of charge.

Step 3 - Your firearm will be returned as quickly and efficiently as possible.

We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause, and to thank you for your patience and cooperation, we will send you a free magazine when we return your pistol to you.

For more information, you may visit www.caracal-usa.com or call Caracal USA at 205-655-7050"
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...and THAT, boys and girls, is why I am always hesitant to buy something in the first production year.
 
Would you mean a , ruger s&w , sig, glock 4 or one od so many that really don't claim a real problem with. hehe

Not a new pistol, just new here. been around 6 years. Caracal owners allready know about the recall . Heck, all firearm makers have some issues , some don't admit haveing problems too and are only fixed on a one at a time if the problem occurs base's. Caracal Unlike like so many today if they think they have a problem they get on it. Not bad for first recall in 6 years of production and only 2 dummy's dropped there guns hard enough to make something go wrong to get a recall. Same pistols that passed nato testing in germany. You don't want one fine , thats fine. You may have one of the many other makes with ongoing reoccuring issues with no factory recall.
 
The pistol has been in service and testing since 2007, including passing all NATO D14 and German Federal Police tests. We Americans can break anything ;)

I have two pistols to go back, including the compact I picked up this morning.

Oh well, at least Caracal 1. Admits there could be a problem. 2. Is getting out in front of the situation by checking all the pistols. 3. Easing the pain with a free mag.

Next up is to see how fast they come back.
 
Oh well, at least Caracal 1. Admits there could be a problem. 2. Is getting out in front of the situation by checking all the pistols. 3. Easing the pain with a free mag.

100% agreed. I've got 2 going back too; very happy with how they're handling it so far. I have a G23 that got recalled years ago---still love it and continue to buy Glocks.
 
This thread shows why new companies have such a hard time getting started in our industry.

No matter how good a product you make, you will be faced with <insults removed> xenophobes who "wont risk" buying your products ... as if such an action were the equivalent of playing chicken, or walking a tight rope. :rolleyes:
 
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This thread shows why new companies have such a hard time getting started in our industry.

No matter how good a product you make, you will be faced with <insults removed> xenophobes who "wont risk" buying your products ... as if such an action were the equivalent of playing chicken, or walking a tight rope.

On the contrary,<insults removed>. Of course, if you were to suffer an AD and put a round into your leg or into another person, you might be singing a different tune.

If the product is so great, then why would it be recalled for potential ADs?

Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder if all the hubub about the supposed NATO and German Military testing is actually based in fact. Is there any German government or NATO documentation to support this claim, or is it just another marketing ploy to get more Americans to fork over a few Franklins?
 
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The latest from Caracal


CARACAL SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL UPDATE

As an update to our October 19, 2012 recall notice, Caracal USA wishes to advise its customers that it will take approximately 12 weeks before we receive upgraded part(s) and can schedule a date for you to return your pistol to Caracal USA for this product upgrade. We apologize in advance for this inconvenience. We will provide a "loyalty package" for any customer who agrees to wait for this upgrade. The "loyalty package" includes: a free pistol magazine, T-shirt, cap and a 15% discount on your next purchase of a Caracal product. If you are unwilling to wait for this upgrade, Caracal USA will refund the full purchase price of your pistol.
 

Caracal Safety Warning and Recall Update
Nov 24, 2012 7:42:23 AM

As a further update to our October 19, 2012 recall notice, Caracal USA, LLC is advising its customers that it has determined that the production tolerances in the grip frames of a very limited number of Caracal F and C pistols could possibly cause these pistols to fire if dropped onto a hard surface with a round in the chamber.

In an effort to minimize the inconvenience to our customers, Caracal USA, LLC will exchange all affected pistols with brand new ones to avoid the delay associated with repairing and returning the pistols.

Shipment of these new replacement pistols is expected to begin in late December 2012, and to be completed by January 2013. Shipment of the replacement pistols will be made in the order in which the pistols were returned to Caracal USA, LLC.

We again apologize for any inconvenience, but the safety of our customers is of the utmost importance to Caracal USA, LLC. If you have any questions, or for further information, please visit www.caracal-usa.com, or call Caracal USA, LLC at (205) 655-7050.

Uggh, I'd like to keep my Waffen Werks marked Compact :(
 
Both of mine are WW marked as well. Oh well, as long as they keep the trigger pull/reset the same I'll take a new gun :D
 
No more wonder and wait for me right now . Mines been gone for buy back for two weeks. I will wait a while this time to see what they changed and how the fix as excepted.
 

Caracal Safety Warning and Recall Update
Nov 24, 2012 7:42:23 AM

As a further update to our October 19, 2012 recall notice, Caracal USA, LLC is advising its customers that it has determined that the production tolerances in the grip frames of a very limited number of Caracal F and C pistols could possibly cause these pistols to fire if dropped onto a hard surface with a round in the chamber.

In an effort to minimize the inconvenience to our customers, Caracal USA, LLC will exchange all affected pistols with brand new ones to avoid the delay associated with repairing and returning the pistols.

Shipment of these new replacement pistols is expected to begin in late December 2012, and to be completed by January 2013. Shipment of the replacement pistols will be made in the order in which the pistols were returned to Caracal USA, LLC.

We again apologize for any inconvenience, but the safety of our customers is of the utmost importance to Caracal USA, LLC. If you have any questions, or for further information, please visit www.caracal-usa.com, or call Caracal USA, LLC at (205) 655-7050.

Uggh, I'd like to keep my Waffen Werks marked Compact :(
It's not like someone is forcing people to send them back so you can keep your gun just don't drop it on hard surface with round in chamber. I would send mine in if I owned one.
 
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It's a mostly hollow lament.

I bought the pistol from Grab a Gun didn't know it was WW imported. There's an implied "future collector value" to them... whether that exists or not, remains to be seen.
 
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As per Caracal, in this price range nothing beats it. I can tell they will rise in price as the company is making introduction in to the market and gas many other firearms lined up.

As for recall, I would avail it and the lotalty package.


Btw not all Chinese handguns are junk.
 
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I held one of these this past weekend for the first time, and all I can say is that it fits into my hand VERY nicely, and if it had an ambi slide catch there would be one going to the range with me this weekend.

The one I held was being set up for Production by a local well regarded smith here. His two biggest gripes were that the slide was very hard (and therefore hard to machine the notch for a real rear sight, but he got it done) and that there were not readily available aftermarket springs for it, so he was having to improvize by cutting coils, seeing what other springs would fit, etc.

I'll have my eye on it for sure. Make a 5.25" with full ambi controls and I'd be on it to try one out tomorrow.
 
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