also you notice that the top of the front seam comes up very high...this is designed to catch on the edge of the pocket during the draw
Carrying Double Action w/ no safety in Cargo Shorts?
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also you notice that the top of the front seam comes up very high...this is designed to catch on the edge of the pocket during the draw
Prince Yamato
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Most inside the pocket holsters are made of neoprene and rubber. My Uncle Mike's Holster for instance, is a neoprene exterior with a rubber band (like a piece of textile rubber) going around it to be extra sticky.
CDH
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Regardless of where a pistol is carried, a holster is the ONLY way to carry it not only safe, but ready as well.
I refuse to carry a pistol that even has a safety anymore. In a real-life situation, all I want to do is to point and click and not be distracted with racking or even wondering if there's one in the chamber or not (did I or didn't I?... give me a sec, BG, while I check this out.)
So my carry weapons are the likes of a 642, Rohrbaugh R9s 9mm (no safety on board), LCP (no safety on board) and an XD9SC (no safety on board) and all carried with one in the chamber.
While I also carry a Commander in DefCon1, the 1911 is a different platform altogether and the safety on it is not used in the same way that safeties are on other pistols (and not part of this discussion).
However, a proper holster will always totally enclose the trigger on a pistol, so an accidental hang-up and trigger pull is simply not possible.
Even a pistol like the LCP shouldn't be carried naked in a pocket. There are pocket holsters designed especially for pocket carry, and they not only keep the pistol safe, but make it more readily available by keeping the pistol properly oriented in the pocket for faster access.
A pistol without a pocket holster will invariably end up upside down or sideways in the pocket which not only makes it more dangerous to carry (safety or not), but also makes it harder to get to quickly if needed.
My most often carry is the Rohrbaugh in an Uncle Mikes #1 holster (an IWB holster), but that I carry in the front pocket of my jeans with the clip over the edge of the pocket.
Any shirt I have (that I wear hanging out) will totally hide it, it's kept safe in it's holster, and with the grip just peaking over the edge of the pocket, I can draw as quickly as any IWB holster.
I refuse to carry a pistol that even has a safety anymore. In a real-life situation, all I want to do is to point and click and not be distracted with racking or even wondering if there's one in the chamber or not (did I or didn't I?... give me a sec, BG, while I check this out.)
So my carry weapons are the likes of a 642, Rohrbaugh R9s 9mm (no safety on board), LCP (no safety on board) and an XD9SC (no safety on board) and all carried with one in the chamber.
While I also carry a Commander in DefCon1, the 1911 is a different platform altogether and the safety on it is not used in the same way that safeties are on other pistols (and not part of this discussion).
However, a proper holster will always totally enclose the trigger on a pistol, so an accidental hang-up and trigger pull is simply not possible.
Even a pistol like the LCP shouldn't be carried naked in a pocket. There are pocket holsters designed especially for pocket carry, and they not only keep the pistol safe, but make it more readily available by keeping the pistol properly oriented in the pocket for faster access.
A pistol without a pocket holster will invariably end up upside down or sideways in the pocket which not only makes it more dangerous to carry (safety or not), but also makes it harder to get to quickly if needed.
My most often carry is the Rohrbaugh in an Uncle Mikes #1 holster (an IWB holster), but that I carry in the front pocket of my jeans with the clip over the edge of the pocket.
Any shirt I have (that I wear hanging out) will totally hide it, it's kept safe in it's holster, and with the grip just peaking over the edge of the pocket, I can draw as quickly as any IWB holster.
MCgunner
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I don't carry in a cargo pocket, use the large front pocket which you can also get in shorts. I don't wear shorts, don't like the sunburn on my chicken legs. 
And, I'm always on a motorcycle and prefer at LEAST my jeans on while riding. I also have armored riding gear, but only wear that on trips and such. I've tried cargo pockets and the gun flops around and bangs into my boney knees and such when I walk, not comfy. Much prefer the gun in my front pocket. The holster is not a problem, rough out exterior keeps it in the pocket and as I draw it, my index finger pushes against the holster instinctively, anyway, as I lay it along side the gun on the draw. It's quite fast, especially with my hand in my pocket as I walk in dark parking lots and areas where my awareness is at a higher level. You can't walk with your hand in a cargo pocket.
Anyway, I don't like the cargo pocket thing. I have cargo jeans, but they have large front pockets. I carry wallet and keys and that in the cargo pockets to leave the strong side front pocket empty for the gun and holster. I only carry the gun in the gun pocket. My guns have revolver like DAs (one IS a revolver). I think a longer, heavier DA is better for pocket carry, but a Glock is okay if it fits the pocket and the trigger is covered by a holster such that nothing external of the pocket can possibly get to the trigger. The holster breaks the outline of the gun so it doesn't print like a gun and it keeps the gun oriented in the pocket for the draw. It also keeps the gun barrel from punching a hole in the pocket which it will eventually do if there's no holster. A holster will keep lint out of the gun, too. There are a variety of pocket holsters from outfits like Desantis and Uncle Mike's that are quite effective and not expensive. A good IWB can cost 3 digits. My Rosen Workman was 145 bucks. A good pocket holster can be had for under 20 bucks. I don't do cheap IWBs. IWB demands quality leather.
And, I'm always on a motorcycle and prefer at LEAST my jeans on while riding. I also have armored riding gear, but only wear that on trips and such. I've tried cargo pockets and the gun flops around and bangs into my boney knees and such when I walk, not comfy. Much prefer the gun in my front pocket. The holster is not a problem, rough out exterior keeps it in the pocket and as I draw it, my index finger pushes against the holster instinctively, anyway, as I lay it along side the gun on the draw. It's quite fast, especially with my hand in my pocket as I walk in dark parking lots and areas where my awareness is at a higher level. You can't walk with your hand in a cargo pocket.Anyway, I don't like the cargo pocket thing. I have cargo jeans, but they have large front pockets. I carry wallet and keys and that in the cargo pockets to leave the strong side front pocket empty for the gun and holster. I only carry the gun in the gun pocket. My guns have revolver like DAs (one IS a revolver). I think a longer, heavier DA is better for pocket carry, but a Glock is okay if it fits the pocket and the trigger is covered by a holster such that nothing external of the pocket can possibly get to the trigger. The holster breaks the outline of the gun so it doesn't print like a gun and it keeps the gun oriented in the pocket for the draw. It also keeps the gun barrel from punching a hole in the pocket which it will eventually do if there's no holster. A holster will keep lint out of the gun, too. There are a variety of pocket holsters from outfits like Desantis and Uncle Mike's that are quite effective and not expensive. A good IWB can cost 3 digits. My Rosen Workman was 145 bucks. A good pocket holster can be had for under 20 bucks. I don't do cheap IWBs. IWB demands quality leather.
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I agree that front pocket carry is more comfortable than cargo pocket because the gun won't be flopping around and banging into your knees when you walk or run. Unless it's really lightweight like a P3AT or LCP that you won't notice in a cargo pocket...
Even that would get old pretty quick. And it's going to bang against everything and everyone you get too close to.
On a a similar note it will be obvious that you have somthing heavy in your pocket which could make you a potential target.
I also doubt that even a full size pistol in a holster wouldn't get turned around on you in a cargo pocket.
And much like SOB (small of back) carry no matter much much you practice drawing it's still awkward and slow to draw from a cargo pocket. Too far down and you're gonna get a lot of pocket trying to go with the gun.
Do yourself a favor and get a small pistol and carry in the front pocket or IWB.
On a a similar note it will be obvious that you have somthing heavy in your pocket which could make you a potential target.
I also doubt that even a full size pistol in a holster wouldn't get turned around on you in a cargo pocket.
And much like SOB (small of back) carry no matter much much you practice drawing it's still awkward and slow to draw from a cargo pocket. Too far down and you're gonna get a lot of pocket trying to go with the gun.
Do yourself a favor and get a small pistol and carry in the front pocket or IWB.
It's only a hazard if you let it be! There is no way that the M&P is going to go off WITHOUT YOU PULLING THE TRIGGER...
If you are in fear of your firearm malfunctioning, then you should seek further training in safe handling practices, OR, find a gun you can count on....
If you are in fear of your firearm malfunctioning, then you should seek further training in safe handling practices, OR, find a gun you can count on....
stubbicatt
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Dillon and others market these little pocket holsters which both cover the trigger guard area and sort of conceal the outline of your pistol because they are more or less square or rectangular. Check into one of them, they aren't very expensive, and you can still draw and present your weapons quickly.
Deanimator
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The only pocket carry I do is with my Smith Model 36. I carry it in a DeSantis Nemesis. The holster keeps the hammer from getting snacked on the lining of my pocket, but I still have a conventional hammer which I can cock for single action if I want.
Also, in Ohio, if you carry on-body in an automobile, it MUST be in a holster of some kind.
Also, in Ohio, if you carry on-body in an automobile, it MUST be in a holster of some kind.
Defense Minister
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A traditional double-action pistol or DAO should be fine when pocket carried with a round chambered, just be sure there is nothing else in that pocket. A striker fired pistol such as a Glock or your M&P should never be carried in a pocket with a round chambered unless holstered with something solid surrounding the trigger guard. This means that most cheap, flimsy pocket holsters are out. If you must pocket carry with a striker fired pistol, I highly recommend leaving the chamber empty. I carry an M&P.40 compact in a Crossbreed Supertuck wearing just shorts and a T-shirt all summer long, and it is perfectly comfortable and quick to access. I also highly recommend this holster.
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