CCI Stingers

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I do not think so? I have alot of them have not bought in a few months. Maybe they just hard to find in you're area. I know I never can find them online.... only locally
 
Loads of Stingers on the shelf at the local WallyMart yesterday, along with loads of other ammo as well.
 
They also make a good self defense round coming out of a semi- auto rifle.

Um, I disagree. I think it is more precise to say that they may be better than other .22lr cartridges, but still a very poor choice for SD. Better than a stick though.

Rugerman07, I just saw some on the shelves at Scheels a few minutes ago.
 
I keep my S&W 22A-1 loaded with them just in case. I'm confident I can put enough of them in a soft area in a short enough time to at least provide an intruder with enough of a distraction for me to get to the .40 in the unlikely event I don't have it on my hip or within arms reach.

That said, a .22LR is definitely NOT a self defense round even in a derringer or snubbie except as a last resort, main sidearm out of ammo or unavailable the guy is on top of me kind of situation. It's a varmint hunting, target shooting, and training round.

I LOVE the round at the range though. With the 22A-1 I chase tennis balls around the berm at 75 meters, and in the Marlin model 60 it's golf balls at 80-100 meters. Standard Federal bulk pack my accuracy seems to fall off sooner.
 
I have found the accuracy of Stingers to be worse in some rifles, a Marlin 60 and a 10-22 Ruger,and a 1927 Remington Model 12 pump also they shot sub standard groupings with my Colt Woodsman, and Ruger MKII target pistols.

All the guns mentioned shot way better with standard velocity rounds such as CCI Green Tag, Remington Sub Sonic, Agulia Super Extra,except for my Savage MkII Bolt gun with heavy barrel, and it does shoot well with the Stingers.

They were absolutley awful out of my 2" Beretta Bobcat MDL 21-A, and would not penetrate a refrigerator door at 7 feet, but the solid Remington Golden would. So if you are going to use them for self defense you need to shoot them out of a hand gun with at least a 6" barrel to take the advantage of the extra velocity.

If you have a gun that shoots them well, I find that to be the exception and not the norm.
 
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Stingers are in short supply in my neck of the woods. I've used them since their introduction and stayed with them for certain applications. They have gone thru some changes over the decades. They are expensive, but they go bang everytime.
 
A CCI Stinger destroyed the barrel of a Marlin Model 60 rifle I owned when a piece of jacketing from the nose of the bullet peeled off going up the feedramp and jammed the bullet in the barrel and bulged it. Last time I ever bought anything from CCI.
 
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A CCI Stinger destroyed the barrel of a Marlin Model 60 rifle I owned when a piece of jacketing from the nose of the bullet peeled off going up the feedramp and jammed the bullet in the barrel and bulged it. Last time I ever bought anything from CCI.

As per CCI's website and the label on the box, CCI Stingers are copper plated, not jacketed. I'm not saying that the microns thin plating of copper couldn't possibly jam the projectile in the barrel, but I suspect there was some other kind of fouling in the barrel that prevented the proper function of the firearm.

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=3&loadNo=0050
 
I have not measured them for accuracy. I use them because the slide of my 1911 conversion kit needs extra oomph to cycle. But I have found that now that it is broken in, most ammo will do it for at least 200 rds before cleaning. But if I want to run it hard, I use stingers, velocitors, or mini-mags.
 
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Is it as good as other 'self-defense' calibers? No. Will you volunteer to be shot in the face with it? I hope not. Since it is the most reliable .22LR ammo out there that I have seen, it can make for a viable defense round when nothing else is available.

Damian
 
"...Has CCI discontinued..." Nope. There may be a local supply issue.
"...found the accuracy of Stingers to be worse in some rifles..." Perfectly normal. As with any .22 ammo, you have to try a box of each hyper-velocity brand to find the one that shoots best out of your rifle.
Remington Yellow Jackets have better penetration. When hyper-velocity ammo first came to Canada(early '80's), Stingers, Yellow Jackets and Expeditors, a few of the gun shop regulars tested 'em on an M1 Helmet. (Yep. Too much time on their hands.) Both the Stingers and Expeditors penetrated one side. The Yellow Jackets went right through both sides.
"...an excellent home defense weapon..." Better than nothing, but not an excellent choice.
 
I just picked up my first .22 today, a 10/22. It specifically said not to shoot CCI Stingers out of it. Do I want to disregard that statement from the owners manual?

edit: I just found my answer. The no Stinger rule applies to the Target models only.
 
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I too wondered this as all the local shops were out, Walmart who usually has them was out, online was out. I just couldn't find them for a month or so. Then recently, I've seen them showing up in large supply at the local Walmarts. I still don't see them at gun shops yet though.
 
I agree. At close quarter ranges I think any good 22 semi auto rifle using CCI Stingers would be an excellent home defense weapon.

After doing a bunch of penetration/expansion tests with this and other .22 ammo, I could not agree more. Inside of 50 meters, the paltry .22 would make quick work of most mortal men... especially from a rifle. As long as you don't have reliability problems, the cartridge can kill rather fast. Not to mention the ability to land multiple hits in rapid succession. The naysayers are ill informed IMO.

Here are some results...
http://brasstard.com/?p=247

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I have some experience with CCI Stingers and their effect on the human body.

About twenty five years back as a dumb high school kid I was out shooting with some friends in an old pit and the kid right next to me shot himself in the leg, just above the ankle. He had a borrowed .22 Winchester pump and had the barrel down, muzzle right up against his leg, as he slipped while lowering the hammer on a live round. BLAM!

Made a little hole as neat as you please about eight inches above the ankle and a small fragment exited on the other side just above the ankle joint. Barely any bleeding from either wound but the round thoroughly fragmented and shattered his Tibia.

Shock definitely showed the effects as there wasn't in obvious immediate pain; "I think I shot myself. Yeah, I definitely shot myself", but as we drove to the hospital he became more vocal about the situation.

Of course the cops showed up at the hospital fairly quickly after that to hear the story and they wanted to see the gun but they were very cool about the incident, I think much cooler that they would be if this had happened today.

The kid was in the hospital for several days while the patched has leg back together again and to this day he still carries a good amount of the little Stinger in his calf.


I can't commit on the effectiveness as a lethal defensive round but it did make him immediately immoble and was a crippling shot if there wasn't critical care available.
 
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