CCW on Vacation with no reciprocity?

CCW with no reciprocity?

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    Votes: 28 21.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 78.9%
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Would you CCW on vacation in a state that has no reciprocity with your home state?

I have not and kind of feel uncomfortable about it...especially wanted to carry in So California.
 
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Cop, In some vacation state somewhere:

"Hmmm... Texas plates, huh? NRA sticker too. Wonder what he's doing here?"
*Turns on bubble gum machine

Fast Frank:

"Good Afternoon, Officer."

Cop:

"Step out of the car and put you hands behind your head"

No way. I'm just not going to do it.

Once the cop has your pistol in his hand it's going to be downright difficult to prove you are a good guy not breaking any laws... Because you WERE breaking their laws.

Oh yeah, sure... With a high zoot lawyer and several trips back to that state for court appearances you just might get to play some sort of illegal search games with them.

Maybe.

But I think I'll pass on that one. It's going to be expensive, and you will in fact spend at least a little time behind bars, and the nice chrome bracelets will be on your wrists, and you will get a look at that spiffy cop car from the back seat, and they will search the crap out of your car just before they tow it, and the impound yard folks are going to steal your battery and stereo, and it's not going to seem like much of a vacation at all.

No sir. Not for me.

Can I recommend vacationing somewhere like Texas or Florida?

They don't arrest folks just for having a gun in the car.
 
Fast Frank nailed it. There are lots of beautiful places in America that respect a citizen's right to carry. Cali isn't one of them. Ironically, Southern California has ridiculous crime rates. I've still got a lot of extended family there, but I don't see them anymore. That's alright.

Visit Alaska, Wyoming, Vermont, or Arizona. Each of those states offer a unique experience to a tourist. And that's before you even have to deal with reciprocity.
 
There are plenty of places to go that DO honor your permit. There are even places to go that don't need any permit at all.

And we don't discuss ignoring unenforceable stupid laws on this forum, no matter how easy it is to carry on as if those laws never existed, so long as you keep a low profile. Such topics are discouraged.
 
Most accept Michigan.

My wife and I shy away from questionable places where crime is most likely to occur so I if we want to visit a place where our CCW is not reciprocal, we will just abide by their gun laws, unload and lock our handguns in a transport container and go about our vacation.

To those of you who are finding that other states will not reciprocate with yours, maybe it is time to have your requirements updated so they are more in line with the rest of the country. The other states must have passed the 2A constitutionality requirements otherwise they would have been tossed years ago, so trying to get they to reduce requirements is a losing battle.

Al
 
Would you CCW on vacation in a state that has no reciprocity with your home state?

I have not and kind of feel uncomfortable about it...especially wanted to carry in So California.
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Yes, I do!

I picked up the UT permit which is recognized/reciprocated in even more places than the PA license.

I print out the page on the state(s) where I'll be traveling from www.handgunlaw.us and carry everywhere I have SOME permit that covers me.
 
The answer is NO. There are plenty of places that are gun friendly that I have not seen. Besides, I like being around folks with similar values and attitudes. The older I get - the more I feel that way.
 
In addition to not vacationing there, write a letter to the chamber of commerce in the communities you are not going to visit explaining why they are not getting your money.
 
A slightly different perspective here. It depends. On what "vacation" means. Last year, we took a road trip from Arkansas to Oregon, down the coast to Sacramento, then inland south to crossing over into Arizona and back home again. My permit was good everywhere but Oregon and California. However, besides the scenic aspects of the trip, the B&B's we stayed at, etc., we visited family in Oregon and California, some we had not seen in years. So, I unloaded and locked the guns away in the trunk for the duration in Oregon and California. I did not, however, remove my Tea Party and Gadsden flag bumper stickers and front license plate. Actually, most of the parts of Oregon and California we traveled would paint red rather than blue on a colored map of county level election returns. So I wasn't too worried about the bumper stickers and front license plate. Had I been braver, I could have open carried in Oregon, I suppose, but chose not to.

I considered that a "vacation." But I certainly would not visit a state that doesn't honor my CHL for purposes of just "fun and sun." When we visit family in Ohio, we have two routes we can take to get there, both about the same distance. One goes through Illinois. We don't. We'll take a vacation this year (not visiting family) and you can be sure it will only be to a state that honors my permit.
 
So, I unloaded and locked the guns away in the trunk for the duration in Oregon and California.
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Thinking you broke Oregon and Cali law there my friend. I would question how your were able to possess those firearms in those states while traveling. FOPA, my read, would not protect you. You may wish to check up on this before doing again. Doesn't sound like you were passing through but touring and vacationing. Simply locking up the weapon in the trunk could still cause you tons of problems in those States. IMHO
 
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CCW on Vacation with no reciprocity?
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If you were from Colorado, would you smoke pot in front of a Indiana State Trooper? ;)

RE: CCW - Even if you would...would you be stupid enough to admit to it in a public forum?
 
No. As absolutist and outspoken as I am about the "simplistic" "interpretation" of the Second Amendment, I do obey, if not respect, the laws I know about.

Terry, 230RN
 
Thinking you broke Oregon and Cali law there my friend. I would question how your were able to possess those firearms in those states while traveling. FOPA, my read, would not protect you. You may wish to check up on this before doing again. Doesn't sound like you were passing through but touring and vacationing. Simply locking up the weapon in the trunk could still cause you tons of problems in those States. IMHO
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I "checked up" before going, relying primarily on "Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States." On Cali:
*Vehicle carry by non-permittees: handguns must be unloaded and secured in the trunk or vehicle storage compartment or locked in gun cases...

Persons without California permits: Vehicle transport of a handgun without California license is limited to an unloaded handgun locked in the trunk or vehicle storage compartment. An unloaded handgun may also be transported in the passenger compartment if it is secured in a locked gun case. Handguns may not be located in the glove comparment or console box.
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I put the unloaded firearms in locked cases, and put the locked cases in the trunk.

Oregon's was a little more permissive, though I did the same while in Oregon.
*Vehicle carry by non-permittees: loaded firearms must be carried in plain view or securely encased in the trunk or storage compartment.

Persons without Oregon permits: ... Handguns secured in commercial cases and stowed in the vehicle's trunk are legitimate...
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I presumed that this was per respective state law, not FOPA.

BTW, my original reply misunderstood the OP. I thought the question was visiting states that don't honor my permit. Rereading, I see it was asking about carrying. Obviously, I didn't carry in Oregon or California.
 
But, but... The second amendment is my concealed carry per...

Wait, a potential out of state felony charge? Lose my job, lose my medical license, have to get rid of all my guns and never go hunting again? Lose my government part time job? Spend a year in jail somewhere? Bankrupt my family on lawyer bills after having my kids see me dragged off to jail in front of them while on vacation to Disneyland? There's probably a divorce in there somewhere too.

Seriously, I'd almost rather be shot.

Follow the law, wherever you go. All of them. Or stay home. It's really not worth it.

J.
 
If I can't carry legally I better be going to another country. I was born and raised in NYC. I went there about a year and a half ago and came to the realization that the trip would be the last time I ever go there. If my family/friends want to see me they can come down to Free America. NC has a very recognized CCW permit. There is absolutely no reason for me to vacation to any state that doesn't recognize it. There are plenty of things to do and places to go that recognize my right to protect myself.

Plus why do you want to financially help the Warsaw Pact states by spending your hard earned money there?
 
California doesn't even honor California CCW if the cop doesn't like the sheriff that issued it.
 
Safe now,but there was a time

I am retired :LEO and keep my LEOSA/HR218 paperwork up yearly.

But when I was LEO and prior to LEOSA,yes I did travel armed as I thought very carefully about the 4 women in my care [ wife,3 daughters & mother in law ] and I decided that the bumpersticker was correct " better tried by twelve,that carried by six".

yes I know I was facing prison,but I kept a VERY low profile and I know all the ways an LEO can spot a firearm,so I avoided any and all places that I might need my gun = but I was armed.

My decision was based on a recent crime where the boyfriend was forced to watch the MULTIPLE rape of his lady and then he was murdered.

I could not in any way see myself allowing that,wrong - HELL YES,ILLEGAL = YES.

MORAL,in my not so humble opinion = yes.

I was willing to face the time & crime to protect my loved ones.

I strongly advise all to travel legal.
 
My son lives in Illinois, go there a few times a year. Never bring a firearm even secured in the trunk. Just not worth the hassle.
Luckily he is probably not there permanently.
 
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