CCW shoot out in Tulsa

[BullfrogKen]

Eleven Mike said: But what evidence could convince a jury that the defendant was absolutely, beyond all reasonable doubt, not in fear for his life?

11-M,

The issue is not just one of being in fear of one's life. The fear has to be reasonable, and the use of force justifiable. Justification is a legally defined term, which means more than what you or I might think it means at face value. The cases I cited, and Pengiun dimissed as irrelevant out of hand, touch on that concept of justification. Meeting the criteria of self-defense can be satisfied without meeting justification. In a situation of mutual affray, self defense can be argued, but when the parties agreed to the fight, they lost justification.

 

[BullfrogKen]

greenflash107 said: practice makes perfect

Practice makes permanent. Only perfect practice makes perfect.

 

[Squidward]

Of course he missed, it was dark outside and the lighter was not lit.

 

[Eleven Mike]

when the parties agreed to the fight

Who agreed to a fight?

 

[Eleven Mike]

I've been unable to find any further info on this Waffle House story. Anyone got anything?