hometheaterman
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So I’m writing a review of the CenterPoint 4-16x40mm Adventure Class scope. I’ve read enough about these recently that it’s really gotten me interested. Most all of the reviews I’ve read have been positive with only a couple negative reviews. However, like most of you I’m wondering how the heck they can pack all those features in a scope, and sell it for $70 and it still be decent? I decided to finally go ahead and purchase one. I figured, hey, what the heck Walmart offers a return period, so if it sucks, I can take it back.
Here is the link to the scope. As you can see most reviews are positive.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/CenterPoint-4-16x40mm-Scope/10248654
This scope comes with a set of rings, which I didn't use so can't comment on them, and it comes with a set of flip up scope caps, which seem decent however, they don't seem as nice as the Butler Creek flip ups. One other thing to mention is if using the scope covers, they move when you move the focus or the adjustable objective, so you either have to take them off, adjust it, then put them back on, or just deal with them not being straight after adjusting it.
First impressions are that the glass in this rifle is kind of disappointing to me. Many of you know how bad I think the lower end Leupold VX-I line is, but the glass in this thing makes the VX-I look pretty decent. It’s noticeably worse than my 2 Simmons scopes I’ve owned, but it’s still usable. It’s actually not at all bad on the 4-10 power. However, after that it starts to head downhill. Once you hit 14 power and up, it heads downhill very very quickly. 16x in broad daylight just looked washed out and milky. Everything just had a white haze to it, and it wasn’t very clear at all even when focused. I mean don’t get me wrong, it was clear enough to see the 2” targets at 100 yards that I was shooting at, but that’s about it and this was in broad daylight. 10-14x was better, but still not exceptional. It was definitely very usable, but still almost looked washed out a little and the colors weren’t vibrant. At 10x and below, the scope was actually pretty decent. I don’t have any complaints there, except in low light it’s definitely not a great performer. Compared to my Simmons scope I compared it to, it is slightly worse. However, compared to my Burris Fullfield II scope there is a huge difference in low light clarity. In my dimly lit yard, I looking into the edges of the woods, I could see some stuff, but in the brush I found it hard to make out anything, where I could with my naked eye. With the Burris, you can see things in detail that you can’t see with your eye. This scope also includes an illuminated reticle, which was cool, but I don’t see the point as it’s not like you could do much hunting with this thing at night anyway.
All in all, if I had to rate this, I’d give this glass a 3.5/10.
Now I did mount this on a .22 rifle, so I can’t comment how it would do on center fire rifles with more recoil. Anyway, I mounted it on my .22 rifle and quickly zeroed it at 50 yards. I just saw where it hit, and then I adjusted the scope so that it should hit the bulls eye. I had it zeroed within a couple of shots. I didn’t bore sight it. To my surprise it actually moved exactly where I told it. This to me was a huge surprise, as most cheap scopes I’ve used don’t exactly track well. They often aren’t precise on the adjustments, but once you get them set stay set. This scope was not at all like that as it seemed to move 1/8” at 50 yards and ¼” at 100 yards consistently just like it said. The clicks were positive, and had a good feel to them. This scope really just had a solid feel to it.
The adjustable objective is really nice to have on a .22 and seemed to do a pretty good job.
Once zeroed at 50 yards, I shot a few groups. I was getting groups around 1” which I expected with this rifle. Some were smaller, but the biggest ones were around 1”. Keep in mind this was with cheap bulk pack ammo. You can loosen the knobs and turn them so that when the scope is zeroed at whatever distance you choose they both are on 0. I did this then moved out to 100 yards. I shot to see what adjustments I needed to make. To my surprise once again, each and every time I adjust this thing it moved exactly where I adjusted it. Just a couple shots and I was sighted in for 100 yards. I took note of where the knobs were according to the markings on the knobs. I shot a few groups, and then decided to see how the scope tracked here. I moved it 6” high and shot a group. Sure enough it hit right where I expected. I then moved it back down the same number of clicks to where it was before and sure enough it was back hitting the bulls eye. I tried moving the adjustment knobs by small amounts and then returning it to zero at 100 yards, and I tried in large amounts, but it always returned exactly to zero. I shot a few more 100-yard groups, and then turned the knobs back to my 50 yard zero. First shot nailed the bulls eye just like it had previously when I had it sighted in for 50 yards. This just flat out shocked me. As said most cheap scopes I’ve seen have not tracked well, nor been repeatable, however, this thing tracks perfectly as far as I can tell, and has always been repeatable and returned to zero. This also has locking rings so that once the knobs are set you can turn the locking rings so that you can’t move the adjustment knobs until you once again loosen the locking rings. This is nice to keep the turrets from getting accidentally moved since there are no turret covers. Another thing to point out is that the POI stayed the same even on different magnifications. I tried different magnifications and there was no poi change like on some of the cheap scopes.
As far as the adjustments go I’d have to give this scope a 10/10.
Next, I tried out the illuminated reticle. One thing to point out about this reticle is that this is not the traditional mil dots. Normally, mil dot reticles have 4 dots in each section of the reticle, however, this scope has 6 dots. This is also not a first focal plane scope, so as far as ranging purposes this only works with these mil dots on 10x. Even in broad daylight on the higher power settings you could see this just fine. It lights up both red and green, whichever you choose. It has 5 different settings for each color. At night you can put it on the lowest setting, which is not over powering. However, you cannot see anything except green or red if you try to use the highest power setting at night. During the daylight the higher power settings worked great though. Overall, this is cool to play with, but I don’t see the point especially since this scope would not be all that great for hunting at night.
I’m mixed on what to give the illuminated reticle score wise. I think it works great, and I would give it a 10/10 for that. However, I’m not sure it deserves a score that high, since I don’t see the point in it.
All in all, my overall opinion of this scope is that if you are doing a lot of shooting in daylight hours on 10 power and under and want something that tracks well and is repeatable while still being on a budget, this is a good choice. However, if you are using this scope to hunt in low light, or are using it at ranges where you will need the top end of this power range, I don’t think this scope is for you. In all honesty the only two drawbacks I see to this scope, are the glass, and the fact that the scope is fairly large and heavy. You also have to remember this is a $70 scope, not a $600 one, so you have to give up performance somewhere. This thing is feature packed and still seems to work decently. So if you are on a budget, and want a scope with these features, this scope seems to be the way to go.
Overall, I’d give this scope a 7/10.
Here is the link to the scope. As you can see most reviews are positive.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/CenterPoint-4-16x40mm-Scope/10248654
This scope comes with a set of rings, which I didn't use so can't comment on them, and it comes with a set of flip up scope caps, which seem decent however, they don't seem as nice as the Butler Creek flip ups. One other thing to mention is if using the scope covers, they move when you move the focus or the adjustable objective, so you either have to take them off, adjust it, then put them back on, or just deal with them not being straight after adjusting it.
First impressions are that the glass in this rifle is kind of disappointing to me. Many of you know how bad I think the lower end Leupold VX-I line is, but the glass in this thing makes the VX-I look pretty decent. It’s noticeably worse than my 2 Simmons scopes I’ve owned, but it’s still usable. It’s actually not at all bad on the 4-10 power. However, after that it starts to head downhill. Once you hit 14 power and up, it heads downhill very very quickly. 16x in broad daylight just looked washed out and milky. Everything just had a white haze to it, and it wasn’t very clear at all even when focused. I mean don’t get me wrong, it was clear enough to see the 2” targets at 100 yards that I was shooting at, but that’s about it and this was in broad daylight. 10-14x was better, but still not exceptional. It was definitely very usable, but still almost looked washed out a little and the colors weren’t vibrant. At 10x and below, the scope was actually pretty decent. I don’t have any complaints there, except in low light it’s definitely not a great performer. Compared to my Simmons scope I compared it to, it is slightly worse. However, compared to my Burris Fullfield II scope there is a huge difference in low light clarity. In my dimly lit yard, I looking into the edges of the woods, I could see some stuff, but in the brush I found it hard to make out anything, where I could with my naked eye. With the Burris, you can see things in detail that you can’t see with your eye. This scope also includes an illuminated reticle, which was cool, but I don’t see the point as it’s not like you could do much hunting with this thing at night anyway.
All in all, if I had to rate this, I’d give this glass a 3.5/10.
Now I did mount this on a .22 rifle, so I can’t comment how it would do on center fire rifles with more recoil. Anyway, I mounted it on my .22 rifle and quickly zeroed it at 50 yards. I just saw where it hit, and then I adjusted the scope so that it should hit the bulls eye. I had it zeroed within a couple of shots. I didn’t bore sight it. To my surprise it actually moved exactly where I told it. This to me was a huge surprise, as most cheap scopes I’ve used don’t exactly track well. They often aren’t precise on the adjustments, but once you get them set stay set. This scope was not at all like that as it seemed to move 1/8” at 50 yards and ¼” at 100 yards consistently just like it said. The clicks were positive, and had a good feel to them. This scope really just had a solid feel to it.
The adjustable objective is really nice to have on a .22 and seemed to do a pretty good job.
Once zeroed at 50 yards, I shot a few groups. I was getting groups around 1” which I expected with this rifle. Some were smaller, but the biggest ones were around 1”. Keep in mind this was with cheap bulk pack ammo. You can loosen the knobs and turn them so that when the scope is zeroed at whatever distance you choose they both are on 0. I did this then moved out to 100 yards. I shot to see what adjustments I needed to make. To my surprise once again, each and every time I adjust this thing it moved exactly where I adjusted it. Just a couple shots and I was sighted in for 100 yards. I took note of where the knobs were according to the markings on the knobs. I shot a few groups, and then decided to see how the scope tracked here. I moved it 6” high and shot a group. Sure enough it hit right where I expected. I then moved it back down the same number of clicks to where it was before and sure enough it was back hitting the bulls eye. I tried moving the adjustment knobs by small amounts and then returning it to zero at 100 yards, and I tried in large amounts, but it always returned exactly to zero. I shot a few more 100-yard groups, and then turned the knobs back to my 50 yard zero. First shot nailed the bulls eye just like it had previously when I had it sighted in for 50 yards. This just flat out shocked me. As said most cheap scopes I’ve seen have not tracked well, nor been repeatable, however, this thing tracks perfectly as far as I can tell, and has always been repeatable and returned to zero. This also has locking rings so that once the knobs are set you can turn the locking rings so that you can’t move the adjustment knobs until you once again loosen the locking rings. This is nice to keep the turrets from getting accidentally moved since there are no turret covers. Another thing to point out is that the POI stayed the same even on different magnifications. I tried different magnifications and there was no poi change like on some of the cheap scopes.
As far as the adjustments go I’d have to give this scope a 10/10.
Next, I tried out the illuminated reticle. One thing to point out about this reticle is that this is not the traditional mil dots. Normally, mil dot reticles have 4 dots in each section of the reticle, however, this scope has 6 dots. This is also not a first focal plane scope, so as far as ranging purposes this only works with these mil dots on 10x. Even in broad daylight on the higher power settings you could see this just fine. It lights up both red and green, whichever you choose. It has 5 different settings for each color. At night you can put it on the lowest setting, which is not over powering. However, you cannot see anything except green or red if you try to use the highest power setting at night. During the daylight the higher power settings worked great though. Overall, this is cool to play with, but I don’t see the point especially since this scope would not be all that great for hunting at night.
I’m mixed on what to give the illuminated reticle score wise. I think it works great, and I would give it a 10/10 for that. However, I’m not sure it deserves a score that high, since I don’t see the point in it.
All in all, my overall opinion of this scope is that if you are doing a lot of shooting in daylight hours on 10 power and under and want something that tracks well and is repeatable while still being on a budget, this is a good choice. However, if you are using this scope to hunt in low light, or are using it at ranges where you will need the top end of this power range, I don’t think this scope is for you. In all honesty the only two drawbacks I see to this scope, are the glass, and the fact that the scope is fairly large and heavy. You also have to remember this is a $70 scope, not a $600 one, so you have to give up performance somewhere. This thing is feature packed and still seems to work decently. So if you are on a budget, and want a scope with these features, this scope seems to be the way to go.
Overall, I’d give this scope a 7/10.
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