Chief Moose Resigns....

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What makes you people think HE'S writing this book? I'm guessing he'll be telling the story to a ghost writer and Moose will take all the credit for it. The really sad part about all of it is that I can just see a movie of the week on the way....:barf:
 
Just how much money will he have left after paying two ghostwriters, four translators, a fleet of lawyers, an antiques appraiser, and six or seven farmhands to feed his wife?
 
What service?
The kind of 'service' requiring lubrication.

In a just world, Moose would be living in a cardboard box down in Anacostia, berating pedestrians for their spare change. The mere fact that subcompetent morons like this can profit from a lifetime of government 'service' is a more scathing critique of government than anything Bastiat or Von Mises ever wrote...

- Chris
 
Oh and by the way Montgomery county is 7 million dollars in the hole for overtime pay for the police during the "Sniper Incident"

Amazes me that they make it seem like Moose solved the crime

Malvo and Muhammud could of parked their vehicle in a corn field and found other transportation the night the police chief announced thier car's description.
 
I'm guessing he'll be telling the story to a ghost writer and Moose will take all the credit for it.

Worked for Hitlery. And she speaks English, at least. :D
 
The really sad part about all of it is that I can just see a movie of the week on the way....
hehe, Stick a blond wig on the Stay Puffed Mashmellow guy from Ghost Busters and it could play the part of,,,err,,,ummm,, The white truck?
 
I don`t think Joe Wambaugh had to quit the LAPD when he started writing fiction. After all, what`s fiction but entertaining lies. Moose could use that excuse. :rolleyes:

He got a $150,000 advance, right? Won`t buy too many antiques unless Mrs. Moose considers Dogs Playing Poker as great art. :neener:
 
Be more fun to investigate Do Dat thoroughly and see if he did affect the capture. Would be a fitting end if he obstructed justice. With a conviction he couldn't profit. No job, no book royalties, no antiques.
 
Departing Moose still
can't profit from book?
Chief quit to make money on mass-murder, but ethics board might kill his payment

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Posted: June 19, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Paul Sperry
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

ROCKVILLE, Md. – Leaving office may not be enough for Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose to shake ethics laws and profit from his book deal, officials here say.

Publishing confidential information about the Beltway sniper case could put in jeopardy any money Moose makes from his 336-page tome, "Three Weeks in October: The Manhunt for the Serial Sniper."



County ethics laws bar employees from not only profiting from the prestige of their office, but also from disclosing confidential government information.

The confidentiality provision applies to both current and former employees, a Montgomery County Ethics Commission official told WorldNetDaily.

"We'll have to wait until the book comes out, and then the commission can take a look at it and the public can take a look at, and either the commission on its own or a member of the public can file a complaint if they think he has violated the confidentiality provision," the official said.

Moose's resignation, effective June 28, "does not moot the case," he asserted.

What's more, Moose will have to give up any money he received for outside deals while he was a county employee, including a $4,250 movie option fee he pocketed earlier this year.

But that's not all.

"He may be liable for any monies he receives after leaving for work he did while he was a county employee that violated the prestige-of-office provision," the county official said.

The commission will have to review the outside work Moose did as a county employee, he said, "and see if they will need to go after all or part of his earnings."

In a closed hearing before the five-member panel in March, Moose admitted already working on a few chapters with writer Charles Fleming.

He stands to make $170,000 in just advance money from New York-based Dutton Publishing Inc. That does not include royalties from sales.

It's not clear if Moose will now drop his First Amendment lawsuits against the ethics commission. Moose's lawyer, Ronald Karp, did not return phone calls.

During the March hearing, commissioner Steven Shaw asked Moose if he planned to reveal sensitive information about the sniper investigation, such as telephone conversations with other law enforcement officials.

Moose testily replied: "Again, I came here to ask permission to work. I didn't come here to ask you to approve the literary, you know, form."

But the next week, in a letter he and his lawyer drafted to the panel, he offered to let at least his immediate supervisor review his manuscript for breaches.

"I would be more than happy to submit the drafts of any books or screenplays to the chief administrative officer in Montgomery County to assure that breaches of confidentiality do not occur," he said in the March 10 letter obtained by WorldNetDaily.

"As you may know," he cautioned, "there were approximately 2,000 individuals involved in the sniper investigation, and I alone cannot possibly assure you that no breaches of confidentiality will ever occur."

In his March 3 testimony, he assured the panel he wouldn't write "something that's gonna ruin the trial."

But police chiefs and prosecutors in neighboring counties where the sniper suspects will be first tried warn that Moose's book could jeopardize their cases. Lawyers for sniper defendants John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo also have expressed concerns. The book is scheduled for release in October, when Muhammad's trial starts. Malvo's trial begins the next month.

Moose argues there's no guarantee the trials will take place as scheduled.

"They could die in prison. They could flee," he said of Muhammad and Malvo. "Any number of things could happen" between now and the book's release.

Bruce Romer is the chief administrative officer who served as Moose's immediate supervisor under County Executive Douglas Duncan, who hired Moose in 1999. Both endorsed Moose's outside ventures.

Only, they belatedly asked the ethics commission for the necessary waivers for them.

Page 2 of Moose's "Employment Agreement," signed July 6, 1999, clearly states: "Employee understands that in accordance with the Montgomery County Public Ethics Law, employee will need to obtain the consent of the Montgomery County Ethics Commission before engaging in outside employment."

Yet it wasn't until March 3 of this year that Moose formally requested the waivers. And he didn't ask for one or two, but five – all for money-making ventures he'd already started, including a teaching gig at Montgomery College, a National Guard job, the book deal, the movie deal and a crisis consulting business he started with his wife just four weeks after the snipers were caught.

Montgomery County Ethics Commission Vice Chairman Jerome Joseph was not amused.

"I would have preferred that you come in with one or two requests for outside employment instead of five," he told Moose.

"We did not bring those applications [for waivers] to you in a timely manner," Moose admitted in his closed-door testimony.

Sandy Herman-Moose, testifying alongside her husband as "his lawyer" (though she's not licensed to practice), told the panel she was angry to learn he was not in compliance with ethics rules.

General Moose?

"Now, I am told that on issue one with you, he didn't get the waivers properly," she said. "That's a given. He says so. I want to kick his butt for that, OK?"

But she says Romer approved his teaching and National Guard jobs when he was hired, because she recalled telling him that her husband was "on track to be a general."

"When we talked to Mr. Romer, about coming here, there was no mincing of words – my husband's a teacher, he's taught [in Portland, Ore.], and he's a police chief," she said. "And he is in the Air National Guard, and they have him on a track to be a general, because if you look outside of Washington, D.C., there aren't even very many black generals, especially those with Ph.D.s, OK?"

It's not clear if Moose, who did not return phone calls from Andrews Air Force Base where he's on active duty, still plans to donate a portion of the proceeds from his book and movie deals to charity.

"My plan is to set up a charitable foundation with a full board of directors, where a portion of the proceeds from my book, film or other private endeavors will be deposited for the purpose of assisting victims of violence," he vowed in his March 10 letter to the ethics board.

As WorldNetDaily first reported, Moose's wife complained to the ethics board that a life in public service has deprived her of household luxuries such as antiques. Moose, who drives a BMW, groused about his wife's and stepson's law school bills.

He also argued he should be allowed to supplement his $160,000-plus salary – the highest among county officials (excluding the school superintendent) and Maryland police chiefs – with outside contracts, because he makes less than the new chief of the Atlanta Police Department.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33153
 
Free speech? What has the SCOTUS said about free speech as it applies to public servants?

Seems to me that if you represent the people, your right to free speech pretty much goes out the window with respect to events occuring during your public service. You have the right to privacy (what little you can manage), yes, but no right to free speech.
 
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Don't you hate it when that happens. :-D


Ewock, yu ar baad. :D
 
LAPD is next for the chiefy. He will fit right in. He can fix Dat Gang problem Deh been havin. Yeah, he can DO DAT!
 
Ewok: At least most people could figure out what I meant, unlike Chief Moose's dialect...

Kharn
 
tyme - you forget that free speech is a collective right, and as such its constitutional protections only apply to public servants. Just thought ya might like to know... ;)
 
It's politically incorrect time kids:

I think Moose will go work for Jesse Jackson, as previously mentioned. He'll hire black people, because as we all know any black person is MUCH more qualified to do a job than a white person. Experiance? Talent? Pfft, who needs that crap? :D
 
What this guy does to get ahead is play the race card, play hte Diversity card and file LAWSUITS. What a man. Brings a whole new meaning to his PHD(piled high and deep) :fire: :neener:
 
The mere fact that subcompetent morons like this can profit from a lifetime of government 'service' is a more scathing critique of government than anything Bastiat or Von Mises ever wrote...

LOL! Too true!
 
Ethics Panel Targets Book Money Paid To Moose So Far

By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 21, 2003; Page B01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17512-2003Jun20.html

The attorney for the Montgomery County Ethics Commission said yesterday that the panel plans to ask Police Chief Charles A. Moose to turn over any money he earned from his book and movie projects while serving as chief.

Moreover, attorney Judson P. Garrett said, the commission will meet soon to consider whether the county is entitled to seek all the money Moose stands to make from the book, "Three Weeks in October," a memoir that focuses on his role in last fall's Washington area sniper manhunt.

Moose, who submitted his resignation Monday, was denied permission by the panel in March to write the book but proceeded with the project anyway. It is listed on Amazon.com for October publication.

Garrett said the county may be entitled to recover money Moose receives for any unapproved work he performed before June 28, the date he officially leaves his county job. The commission could take Moose to court and ask a judge to enforce the ruling that found Moose's outside work in violation of the county's prohibitions against profiting from the prestige of public office, he said.

"The commission is going to have to look at that and make some judgment calls about whether it wants to pursue any of that," Garrett said. "I don't think the courts have had to decide this before. But my view is that he would be subject" to the ethics law.

Moose has reportedly been paid a combined $174,000 for the book and for his exclusive agreement with a Hollywood production company that is preparing a television movie about the October shooting rampage that killed 10 people, wounded three and traumatized the Washington area. He also stands to make $4 for each book sold and additional money from the movie if it is made and broadcast, sources said.

Moose's wife, Sandy, reached at their Chevy Chase apartment yesterday, said her husband would not make any public comments on his resignation or on the Ethics Commission's plans. Charles Moose's attorney, Ronald Karp, did not return phone calls.

Ethics experts said the commission would, in all likelihood, be acting within its authority to try to recover money Moose receives from work he did based on his county employment.

"I think they have a case," said Robert Stern, president of the Center for Governmental Studies, a Los Angeles-based nonprofit organization that specializes in ethics issues. "The strength of their position is that he was a full-time employee, using all the information he gained while he was there."

Stern said Moose would "be in a much stronger position if he had waited to work on the book until after he resigned."

Among top county leaders, feelings about the pursuit of Moose's money were mixed.

County Executive Douglas M. Duncan (D) suppressed a chuckle when asked about the commission's intentions, saying that as far as he was concerned, Moose's resignation means "the situation takes care of itself."

County Council Vice President Steven A. Silverman (D-At Large) said that even though he frowns on Moose's decision to abandon his police career in favor of writing a book and joining the lecture circuit, he believes the Ethics Commission has done enough.

"I think we should close the chapter," he said. "He's no longer going to be the police chief. He made his choice. I think we should move on."

But there were also those who said they want the Ethics Commission to take a firm position.

"If they decide to pursue it, I would support them," said council member Phil Andrews (D-Gaithersburg). "You have to stand behind your ethics rulings. If those rulings don't have teeth, they are more likely to be ignored in the future."

Walter E. Bader, president of the Montgomery County lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police, said the commission would merely be enforcing the rules set up under the employment contract Moose signed, in which he specifically agreed to abide by the county's ethical code of conduct.

"If those are the rules he agreed to, that's what he should be honoring," Bader said.
 
Says it all!!!

"When we talked to Mr. Romer, about coming here, there was no mincing of words – my husband's a teacher, he's taught [in Portland, Ore.], and he's a police chief," she said. "And he is in the Air National Guard, and they have him on a track to be a general, because if you look outside of Washington, D.C., there aren't even very many black generals, especially those with Ph.D.s, OK?"
 
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