CHL psychiatric evaluations in Dallas?

[Oscar S.]

Does anyone here know a psychiatric place where they do evaluations for a CHL license? I'm having lots of trouble finding one. I live in Dallas, I would appreciate if somebody knows about one that does these types of evaluations. Thanks!

 

[Rio Laxas]

I've never heard of anyone needing such a thing to get a CHL in Texas, so I doubt anyone offers them specifically. Are you sure you need one?

The only thing I can find in reference to that is:

(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(7), a person is incapable of exercising sound
judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person:
(1) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as suffering from a psychiatric
disorder or condition that causes or is likely to cause substantial impairment in
judgment, mood, perception, impulse control, or intellectual ability;
(2) suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subdivision
(1) that:
(A) is in remission but is reasonably likely to redevelop at a future time; or
(B) requires continuous medical treatment to avoid redevelopment;
(3) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician, determined by a review
board or similar authority, or declared by a court to be incompetent to manage
the person’s own affairs, or
(4) has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not guilty by reason of
insanity.
(e) The following constitutes evidence that a person has a psychiatric disorder or
condition described by Subsection (d)(1):
(1) involuntary psychiatric hospitalization;
(2) psychiatric hospitalization;
(3) inpatient or residential substance abuse treatment in the preceding five-
year period;
(4) diagnosis in the preceding five-year period by a licensed physician that
the person is dependent on alcohol, a controlled substance, or a similar
substance; or
(5) diagnosis at any time by a licensed physician that the person suffers or
has suffered from a psychiatric disorder or condition consisting of or relating to:
(A) schizophrenia or delusional disorder;
(B) bipolar disorder;
(C) chronic dementia, whether caused by illness, brain defect, or brain
injury;
(D) dissociative identity disorder;
(E) intermittent explosive disorder; or
(F) antisocial personality disorder.
(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has previously been diagnosed
as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d)
or listed in Subsection (e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable
of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a
handgun if the person provides the department with a certificate from a licensed
physician whose primary practice is in the field of psychiatry stating that the
psychiatric disorder or condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to
develop at a future time

If you fall under that, I would think that any psychiatrist could make an evaluation, but I doubt they have much experience in doing so for a CHL specifically.

 

[dogtown tom]

Oscar S. Does anyone here know a psychiatric place where they do evaluations for a CHL license? I'm having lots of trouble finding one. I live in Dallas, I would appreciate if somebody knows about one that does these types of evaluations. Thanks!

I doubt that a psychiatrist will advertise "CHL psych evals $99 While U Wait!!!!!".
If §411.172. applies to you, ANY licensed psychiatrist can examine you and issue the required certification.

Tell them the certification is for a CHL and I would bet most would decline to issue the certification.

 

[BSA1]

This is a interesting question since mental illnesses is a issue that is under attack by the media and anti-gun owners.

Oscar

Has someone you know been denied based on their mental health history or self-admission made on the 4473 or conceal carry application?

Mental health diagnoses for bipolar, schizophrenia, dementia, etc. are not on your criminal history so that information is self-admission. Use of illegal drugs is another self-admission if you don't have a drug conviction.

Since there are not any easy medical tests to determine remission any certification by a reputable Doctor is going to require repeated visits with him /her over a period of time. Of course the easiest route would be with a Doctor that the applicant has maintained along relationship with.

 

[Drail]

Imagine if all politicians were required to have a psych evaluation.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Sounds like a Catch 22 to me...

Kind of a: only a crazy person would seek certification of sanity in order to obtain a permit.

Can you imagine a psych professional going out on a limb in these litigious times to state someone is stable enough to carry?


I hope this is a misinterpretation on the part of the OP.

Todd.

 

[Art Eatman]

I did the Texas CHL thing early on; have renewed twice. Never any sort of brain-check from a Pshrink, ever. Not required.

I can understand that a person who has had a short-term commitment to a mental-health facility could be concerned.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I did the Texas CHL thing early on; have renewed twice. Never any sort of brain-check from a Pshrink, ever. Not required.

I can understand that a person who has had a short-term commitment to a mental-health facility could be concerned.

Ah hah...

Should a person have had a previous "glitch" as in meds, LE run-ins or commitment, I guess I could see seeking out a clean bill of mental health.

Good point.

Todd.

 

[Art Eatman]

If a commitment is not court-adjudicated, there should be no official record of mere psychiatric treatment.

 

[CLP]

I doubt that a psychiatrist will advertise "CHL psych evals $99 While U Wait!!!!!".
If §411.172. applies to you, ANY licensed psychiatrist can examine you and issue the required certification.

Tell them the certification is for a CHL and I would bet most would decline to issue the certification.

average fee schedule for psychiatrists is $300/hr

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Though it is New Jersey and though it is alcoholism, I think a connection is clear...

... potentially anyhow. So it would seem relative to the conversation.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/nj-court-denies-gun-permit-for-man-because-wife-has-alcohol-problem/



In the appellate decision made public on Thursday, the court said that the woman’s “alcohol problem” and past run-ins with the law were enough to deny the applicant a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (FPIC), which is required to purchase handguns.


Interestingly, they are not (currently) telling him that he must remove the existing firearms from the home but rather (again, at this time):


However, Judge Kelly argued that those with alcohol and drug problems “are frequently subject to relapse,” and that “putting more weapons in the home increased the chances of access to those guns” by the wife.

This would also imply that she - as an alcoholic - would of course be denied should she herself have applied.


Todd.

 

[DHJenkins]

Any board certified psychiatrist can give you a certification. However, if you're looking for an equivalent to a medical clinic where you can just pop in and get a test done, you probably won't find one. In fact, I'd be very surprised if a shrink gave you a 'clean bill of mental health' in one visit, especially if your reason for the session(s) is related to firearms.

 

[Midwest]

Imagine if all politicians were required to have a psych evaluation.

Politicians need psychiatric evaluations, drug testing, security clearances, background checks and character references...before running for office, after taking office and every year they stay in office.

That would solve a lot of the problems..........
.

 

[Spats McGee]

Imagine if all politicians were required to have a psych evaluation.

Politicians need psychiatric evaluations, drug testing, security clearances, background checks and character references...before running for office, after taking office and every year they stay in office.

That would solve a lot of the problems..........

It may or may not solve problems, but it sure would empty out a bunch of office space.

 

[dogtown tom]

CLP

Quote:
Originally Posted by dogtown tom View Post
I doubt that a psychiatrist will advertise "CHL psych evals $99 While U Wait!!!!!".
If §411.172. applies to you, ANY licensed psychiatrist can examine you and issue the required certification.

Tell them the certification is for a CHL and I would bet most would decline to issue the certification.

average fee schedule for psychiatrists is $300/hr

The point...........you missed it.

 

[dogtown tom]

Drail Imagine if all politicians were required to have a psych evaluation.

Imagine if every voter was required to have a psych evaluation.

Neither makes sense.

 

[CLP]

The point...........you missed it.

No I didn't miss it. I just don't want anyone thinking I come cheap.

 

[sequins]

The idea behind a democracy is that the majority rules. If the majority is crazy..... maybe YOU'RE crazy.