Superlite27
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You'd be better off just waiting for the next Gov't sponsored gun buyback and turning them right around. Especially if they were offering more than you were.
Collectors asked to leave buy-back
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You'd be better off just waiting for the next Gov't sponsored gun buyback and turning them right around. Especially if they were offering more than you were.
You know, after reading about all these gun buy backs, it makes me wonder what would happen if a person were to take a Blue Book and simply let the folks in line look up the value of their guns. The folks with rust seized .22s would probably stay in the buyback line, but would the people with firearms worth more than the buyback price actually leave and sell the guns elsewhere, or leave and go put the guns back in their closet, that they never get around to actually selling?
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I have a friend who works in the state crime lab, part of her job is to fire guns from some of the gun buy back programs. They run ballistics tests to see if they match up to any crimes before the guns are destroyed. She says most of what comes through is complete junk, a lot of high points, some home made stuff, and many things she's scared to fire. Although she did have a S&W 500 come through her hands one day.
Ever hear of "Pain Compliance"? Passive resistance might work with Baptists, but I bet the Cops checking the guns would be happy to make you move regardless.
If you choose to ignore them they can just employ trendy "Pain Compliance" techniques to break your non-threatening, passive resistance and make you leave, which usually involves repeated application of taser shocks, pepperspray (sometimes directly into eyes via Qtips), and painful joint locks that may result in broken bones, all of which is apparently entirely legal and constitutional according to courts.
John Wayne
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Why not get a box-o-rusted parts, put together a few things that resemble guns, and turn them in for money? Then you can point out how pro gun control you are since you donated 3 evil weapons to get them out of your house. (Never mind that one was a Red Ryder with a cartridge carrier full of corrosive FMJ ammo, and another was a old 10/22 stock with a piece of conduit held on by a hose clamp).
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Why did they care if collectors were there? If the purpose was *truly* to get guns off the street, then letting collectors buy them would do just that and save the local grocery store money too.
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Why did they care if collectors were there? If the purpose was *truly* to get guns off the street, then letting collectors buy them would do just that and save the local grocery store money too.
"Why not get a box-o-rusted parts, put together a few things that resemble guns, and turn them in for money? Then you can point out how pro gun control you are since you donated 3 evil weapons to get them out of your house."
JW, the problem with that is that the reporters who are going to tell the story to the public *really can't* tell the difference between a pile of rusted junk and an evil weapon. They simply go back to their little desks and write about how the noble gun-hating group is "getting guns off the streets."
If you give up a gun in a "buy-back", you only add to the pile of guns that the gun-grabbers will point to and say "See how much good we did?"
Tim
JW, the problem with that is that the reporters who are going to tell the story to the public *really can't* tell the difference between a pile of rusted junk and an evil weapon. They simply go back to their little desks and write about how the noble gun-hating group is "getting guns off the streets."
If you give up a gun in a "buy-back", you only add to the pile of guns that the gun-grabbers will point to and say "See how much good we did?"
Tim
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Interesting, Apparently Neal isn't too concerned with the 41,059 traffic deaths in 2007...or the 440,000 annual deaths each year which are smoking-associated....
BTW- I had a couple of $20 unusable beaters I would have turend in for $200 worth of groceries...but they only did the buy-back in Cincinnati and Cleveland...not Columbus.
Well do keep in mind that urban liberals generally believe that the solution to any social problem is to toss money at it. These buy-back programs make them feel all warm and fuzzy, are much approved by the local media, and make it possible to avoid the real issues concerning crime in those neighborhoods.
What more could you ask?
What more could you ask?
MagnumDweeb
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I thought nothing but junk was being turned till I saw it reported on CNN, I swear I saw a Colt 1903 being turned in, it was too samll to be a TT33, and I swear I saw a lever action and pump action on the table. Also a Ruger MKIII. Part of the buy back one of cops appearing on camera said that the firearms had to be functioning, that's prejudice and prejudice is wrong 
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If the gift cards were $100 and I saw a Colt 1903 in front of me I'd hand him two hundred without blinking. I'd have to believe that pawnshops would be handing over more money than the church but there were probably folks whom felt better getting the grocery money and knowing the gun would be destroyed.
.If the gift cards were $100 and I saw a Colt 1903 in front of me I'd hand him two hundred without blinking. I'd have to believe that pawnshops would be handing over more money than the church but there were probably folks whom felt better getting the grocery money and knowing the gun would be destroyed.
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Harmonic said:
Yep. If they were standing on a sidewalk, the most the church could do is ask them, kindly, to leave. Sidewalks in most areas are city property, meaning public property. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean the police can't ask you to leave at the request of the church but at least you can have some fun arguing the point. It's not right but that's the way it is.
There were those inane "Buy-Back" programs in both Cleveland and Akron over the last weekend.
From the limited footage I saw on the local "nooz", I did see a nickle-plated or perhaps glossy stainless large-frame S&W, and what looked a German Luger, although it could have been the late '60's .22LR knock-off of the Luger. They did show some really bad guns, too...a pump shotgun with what looked like a home-made pistol grip, badly rusted, a couple of beat-up over-under derringers, and a decent-looking Ruger 10/22 rifle.
I did call the Cleveland Police and asked where the "buy-back" was going to happen, and I said.."I am a collector, and I might find a firearm or 2 I want to buy." I was then informed that such actions on my part would be a violation of Federal Law. I asked specifically WHICH Federal Law, and if they didn't know, could I speak to the Shift/Watch Commander?
Their reply? "Click!" {Dial Tone}
From the limited footage I saw on the local "nooz", I did see a nickle-plated or perhaps glossy stainless large-frame S&W, and what looked a German Luger, although it could have been the late '60's .22LR knock-off of the Luger. They did show some really bad guns, too...a pump shotgun with what looked like a home-made pistol grip, badly rusted, a couple of beat-up over-under derringers, and a decent-looking Ruger 10/22 rifle.
I did call the Cleveland Police and asked where the "buy-back" was going to happen, and I said.."I am a collector, and I might find a firearm or 2 I want to buy." I was then informed that such actions on my part would be a violation of Federal Law. I asked specifically WHICH Federal Law, and if they didn't know, could I speak to the Shift/Watch Commander?
Their reply? "Click!" {Dial Tone}
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John Wayne
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I don't see a problem with that. The reporters will say what they like regardless of the truth, and more people in line for handouts means it costs whatever organization that sponsors it more money.
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yes and not to mention the extreme show of ignorance and foolishness exhibited on 11/04 and 11/00
expvideo
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These programs take advantage of people that don't know how to sell a gun legally. Many of the people that sell back to these programs do it because they have a gun around the house that they don't want, but don't know how to legally get rid of it. An example would be if a husband is sent to prison and the wife does not know how to get rid of his gun without breaking the law. She doesn't want to get in trouble, so she trades a $1500 AR-15 for a $50 gift card to QFC.
Some people are in even worse situations. If an old lady that can barely make her rent trades in her late husband's collection of antique and rare firearms that could pay for her house, and only gets $150 worth of groceries, there has to be some kind of robbery going on here. That is unacceptable. They should have some requirement to advise the owners of the value and legality of their property. Many people get rid of guns that they could legally hold on to, just because they don't know that they can do so.
These programs take advantage of people and are grossly unfair to the people that participate in them.
Some people are in even worse situations. If an old lady that can barely make her rent trades in her late husband's collection of antique and rare firearms that could pay for her house, and only gets $150 worth of groceries, there has to be some kind of robbery going on here. That is unacceptable. They should have some requirement to advise the owners of the value and legality of their property. Many people get rid of guns that they could legally hold on to, just because they don't know that they can do so.
These programs take advantage of people and are grossly unfair to the people that participate in them.
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Sheesh, I should start that program at MY CHURCH!
I'm even a TRUSTEE!
(I would NEVER DO IT!)
I'm even a TRUSTEE!
(I would NEVER DO IT!)
ccsniper
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if its the church property, they can tell people to get off. it might be considered private.
One of these days, I'll see if my gun store will give me a price break if I buy like 10 Ravens/Jennings, etc. from them and then find a buyback like this one and then buy a Noveske upper. I could make it a yearly event!
This must be how those people on ARFCOM can afford to have 20 expensive AR setups.
This must be how those people on ARFCOM can afford to have 20 expensive AR setups.
zminer
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Orange County Shooters has a page with pictures of some valuable guns that were turned in to buyback programs by people who had no idea what they are, or what they're worth. I'm sure most of what comes in to these places are junk, but the odd firearm worth hundreds, or thousands, of dollars is probably not all that uncommon.
http://www.ocshooters.com/Gen/gun-buy-back-program.html
http://www.ocshooters.com/Gen/gun-buy-back-program.html
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StrawHat said:
Yes. There was this lady, that donated 3 large 40 gallon trash cans full of guns, after her husband passed, to be destroyed by the police, for free.
And these guns, it was a shame to even see them in buckets like that, chrome plated .45s and all sorts of amazing things. Tens of thousands of dollars in firearms, gone.
Of course, she wasn't wanting for money, but it's a similar situation.
Mauserguy
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I wish I could find a gun in an easter basket. All I ever get is crappy foam candy peeps.
Mauserguy
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If my church ever did what that church did, I would leave and tell them in no uncertain terms why I left.
If, however, they organized a 'gun swap', allowing private buyers to come and buy weapons found around the house and wanted out, I might support that..
If, however, they organized a 'gun swap', allowing private buyers to come and buy weapons found around the house and wanted out, I might support that..
jakemccoy
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I'd rather see people who are uncomfortable with guns get rid of their guns. However, a gun buy back is a scam and a waste of time.
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