Colt Rumor going around

[Titus]

Sorry, only have five Colts. And their inability to take their customers seriously has really worked swell for them over the years. If they just mean to be an LE/Mil company, fine, have fun til you lose the M4 contract too, but do everyone a favor and quit pretending to be in the civilian market. Or go ask whoever it is that has "marketing" in their title what they're drawing a paycheck for. It's not hatred, it's tough love. They could actually be doing something with that company! But then they're too smart to write up a little note on their plan of action and pay someone's kid ten bucks to post it on their website.

If they want positive reinforcement from the civilian market, let them do something positive for the civilian market. Customers want to line up to give them money, and if they would let them, that might be positive reinforcement. Telling customers when you might let them line up to give you money would at least keep some of them hanging around instead of going off to give their money to someone else, and then that would lead to positive reinforcement. This ain't rocket science. So far Colt has, as a practical matter, said no thanks to positive reinforcement, so like any other company in the world, they get negative reinforcement. But a company should never listen to unhappy customers, that might mean they would have to do something about it...

 

[JohnBT]

What unhappy customers? There is that one gentleman who had to return his WWI repro, but otherwise it's the wannabe customers who seem to be making all the noise.

"lt them do something positive for the civilian market."

You don't like the guns they're selling? I think they're some of the best. A big step in the right direction.

Okay, all y'all have fun, I'll leave you alone now. I've always been unable to refrain from teasing people when they're all wound up over something.

I can't decide whether to get a NRM Government Model or Commander now that the largest local gun shop is STOCKING COLTS AGAIN. Wheeeeeee....so don't buy 'em, they'll be more for me.

John

 

[Titus]

Try reading the first sentence again. And when you talk about "wannabe customers", you might notice that people want to be customers. Many companies would like to have people lined up wanting to be customers, but this doesn't move Colt to action. Of course, plenty of gun stores find a way to stay in business by thinking the customer is there for their benefit and not listening to them until they buy something. Why would a customer think they're going to be treated any better after they've already given them their money? And Colt wonders why they're always behind! Someone has Colts in stock? That shouldn't be news!

 

[threefeathers]

Three local gun stores, each had two 1911s last week all sold now. A NRM Commander to me, my 5th.

 

[Wildalaska]

Either the distributor isnt being truthful or, colt isnt delivering handguns at this point. BTW, he deals with large distributors. (Jerry's..ect)

Gee Im a little guy and Ive shipped out about 20 Colt pistols in the last 30 days or so....

WildhorsepuckyAlaska

 

[mcmoyer]

Gee Im a little guy and Ive shipped out about 20 Colt pistols in the last 30 days or so....

And darn NICE ones too!!

 

[andrew17]

Gee Im a little guy and Ive shipped out about 20 Colt pistols in the last 30 days or so....

Who is your distributor?

 

[BluesBear]

My .45 automatics all have a Pony on them. It's a MUST for me. Everything else is just a copy.
I also love several models of handguns that they sadly no longer produce.


But if I want an AR, and I see a couple in my future late next year*, my choice will be Rock River and/or Olympic.
Why? Two reasons; Quality and Options.


Just because I'm an elitist doesn't mean I'm stupid.



* (you wanna talk about unjust waiting periods, try 18 months)

 

[BigG]

I can go to two or three shoppes here in ATL and pick up a new Colt any time. The used market almost always includes Colts also.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I can go to two or three shoppes here in ATL and pick up a new Colt any time.

With flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and collapsible stocks?

Do tell which shop this is...

 

[JohnBT]

"And Colt wonders why they're always behind!"

They're behind because they're selling everything they can make. If they had a biiiiiig infusion of cash maybe they could tool up to catch up with the demand. Maybe they'd never catch up with the demand.

Meanwhile, a few folks want them to disrupt their production in order to add a few features.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, there are a still folks clamoring for Remington to bring back the Nylon 66. Why? Because they want it.

Heck, I vaguely remember a time when mighty Glock couldn't keep up with the demand, but I don't remember any Death to Glock threads.

Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me...everybody sing.

John

 

[Wildalaska]

As I mentioned in another thread, guess Colt really aint out of business since they sent me 6 Blue Governments today...almost all of which are on the way to their new homes I may add

Andrew, have your dealer call me, Ill get him a Colty...hes gonna have to wait like anyone else though....

They're behind because they're selling everything they can make.

And then some.

WildsamslittlebuddyAlaska

 

[Lone_Gunman]

Wildalaska,

You seem to be in good communication with Colt, are they planning on selling AR's with flash hiders, bayo lugs, and collapsible stocks to consumers?

I think you did a group buy not long ago with Colt AR style rifles, how were those configured?

 

[Wildalaska]

Colt is not gonna sell LE or Military rifles to the general public at this time. Colt LE configured rifles can be sold by Colt LE distributors to dealers.

WildprettysimpleAlaska

 

[Lone_Gunman]

Colt LE configured rifles can be sold by Colt LE distributors to dealers.

OK, but does Colt allow dealers to sell these on to consumers without the dealer being at risk from losing the ability to continue to buy from Colt?


addendum...

Does Colt differentiate between LE dealers and just regular dealers? If so, are you saying the LE dealers can get ARs with all the goodies and sell them to whoever?

 

[Titus]

Meanwhile, a few folks want them to disrupt their production in order to add a few features.

Actually, I don't want an AR, I have a Garand. Unless by "few features", you meant a Series 70 Commander.

 

[ACORN]

So much hatred. Isn't anybody going to complain that Interbake has failed the public, is in bankruptcy again and that they won't be able to get their Wonderbread and Twinkies fix?

Thanks to my boycott, due to their refusal to sell LE model Twinkies to civilians.
Who said one man can't make a difference.
Power to the people!

 

[Wildalaska]

OK, but does Colt allow dealers to sell these on to consumers without the dealer being at risk from losing the ability to continue to buy from Colt?

Dealers cant buy direct from Colt..only distributors can....there are both LE distribs and commercial distribs...and both together...they sell to dealers...

WildhowmuchsimplerdoihavetomakeitifyouwantanycolttalktoyourdealerAlaska

 

[atek3]

if colt wants to sell tacti-cool AR's only to police, thats fine...the market will punish them.

atek3

 

[BluesBear]

Wildalaska, it would appear that some just can't understand the supply chain.






Either that or English.

 

[cracked butt]

If people are upset try this:

Everytime someone buys a Bushy or Armalite with the Eeeeevil features, take a picture of it, make a copy of the receipt and mail it to Colt. Maybe they will take notice.

When I finally get around to buying an AR, Colt is completely out of the running if they can't offer any features the other companies will. And to me, a prancing pony stamped on the receiver is not a feature.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

it would appear that some just can't understand the supply chain

Well, I think it is a little more complicated than that.

It appears to me what Colt says and what Colt does are two different things.

On the one hand they appear to have a policy that they dont want guns with the "evil features" sold to civilians.

However, the dealers are legally free to sell to whoever they want, and Colt knows that, and isn't really going to try to stop that.

This makes me think Colt is doing this for liability reasons. If they have an official policy of not selling those type guns to the public, then if one is used in a crime, e.g, the Beltway Sniper, Colt can say they had a policy not to sell to consumers, and all the liablity would then be shifted down to the dealer. If I was a dealer this would not make me particularly happy.

 

[BluesBear]

IF you want a NEW Colt AR badly enough you CAN get one.

Well, I think it is a little more complicated than that.

Actually no it isn't.
It is very, very simple.

(Remeber we are NOT talking about Military or foreign sales. The following applies ONLY to Domestic Civilian and Law Enforcement Agency sales.)

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Colt sells their firearms to Distributors. Only to Distributors. No one else.


The Distributors sell to dealers and law enforcement agencies. The distributors decide for themselves which dealers they will sell to.


Dealers then sell to consumers. That's why dealers exist. They take care of the day to day paperwork and make sure all local laws are followed.

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See, it is simple?
So if you want a genuine Prancy Pony evil black rifle all you have to do it find a dealer who has a good relationship with the proper distributor and get on the waiting list.

Just remember that every distributor has a LOT of dealers with customers who have already placed their orders.

If you can't wait, then just grab all the real Pony parts you want and buikd your own genuine Colt AR.
Remember that there are a LOT of brand new, in the box, Colt pre-ban uppers out there. Each and every one are now totally legal to be installed on any lower.
Keisler's even has original triangle handguard uppers that are still in the original package.


It's just up to you how badly you want to get one.

 

[JohnBT]

"Unless by "few features", you meant a Series 70 Commander"

Sure. I'd really like a reproduction '53 lightweight Commander and I have a WWI repro already. I like shooting these new old guns.

John

 

[JoeWang]

I think Colt may be attempting to milk their reputation for a while by restricting production.

I just assembled an RRA rifle from parts and am just as impressed with my factory colt. I do like the matte RRA finish for not reflecting much light. Just my opinion.

I like the finish on the Colt, unfortunately I've never found their parts to fit tighlty and they are considerably more expensive without merit. Not that it affects accuracy, I just hate a rattly rifle.