Jim Watson
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1911 collectors shed a tear when they see accurized Army surplus.
But most think the Kings and Matthews etc revolvers are neat.
But most think the Kings and Matthews etc revolvers are neat.
Colt vs Smith & Wesson "Bullseye" Revolvers
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Ohen Cepel
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Brother and I are K38 guys as Colts are $$ and hard to come by for Bullseye (in our experience).
The rifling in the Colt’s revolvers supposedly favor the 38 Special and the rifling in the S&W supposedly favors the 357 S&W Magnum. I still prefer the trigger on the Smith. The Colt’s trigger seemed to stack or require more pressure towards the end of the stroke.
Kevin
Kevin
SwampWolf
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In terms of " rifling", the rate of twist should be the same for .357 Magnum and .38 Special cartridges as they both use the same weight (ergo, length almost always) bullets. "Stacking" might be a factor in some kinds of shooting when da trigger pulls are a factor but in Bullseye shooting, only sa pulls are usually employed and stacking was/is never a factor.
Gordon
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My dad started shooting NRA matches in mid 50s at Old Bridge range then at Fort Monmouth and others I don't remember. I do remember the Old Bridge range as we first lived in Old Bridge when I was born until 5 years old and Dadtook me to the range Matches after we moved to Edison Towns hip on an acre Ranchette across from defunct Camp Kilmer. .It was very popular to shoot NRA matches in that area from 55 till 65ish . Dad had Matched Colt Officers in .22, .38 and much later in 63 a .32 Officers Model match Target. For the Service Pistol matches he used a 1911 by King's , complete with S&W sights and accurrizer roller bearing barrel ect. . For .22 Pistol he had a Colt Woodsman Match Target first and then in early 60s switched to a Ruger target model that local NJ gunsmith accurized a he said it was more reliable and accurate. He eventually gave me all the guns , in a big custom range pistol box with a Unertl spotting scope mounted . I first sold his " cheat " .32 Officers model match about 20 years ago when I needed the almost $2000 it fetched ! Then the Woodsman Match Target about 15 years ago and the .22 & .38 Officers last year. I still have the Ruger MK 1 Target and the .1911 which I had reworked in the 80s again 
Now me, when I was into NRA matches, not as long or at his level but for about 10 years in 80 and 90s off and on , I bought custom worked S&W model 14 and 17 for revolver , my dads old 1911 reworked and tuned up and the Ruger Target . I sold the model 14 last year and kept Combat Masterpiece sets in .22 and .38 along with my "old" model 17 6" match gun. I feel the S&W K frame can be made up into the best all around standard revolver matches , especially since the fine old Colt gunsmiths are almost gone along with the parts. I have had and shot an older Python 6" in a few Matches and yes they are amazing while they work. But I know the S&W K frame guns WILL work and are esily maintained., want pictures ?
Now me, when I was into NRA matches, not as long or at his level but for about 10 years in 80 and 90s off and on , I bought custom worked S&W model 14 and 17 for revolver , my dads old 1911 reworked and tuned up and the Ruger Target . I sold the model 14 last year and kept Combat Masterpiece sets in .22 and .38 along with my "old" model 17 6" match gun. I feel the S&W K frame can be made up into the best all around standard revolver matches , especially since the fine old Colt gunsmiths are almost gone along with the parts. I have had and shot an older Python 6" in a few Matches and yes they are amazing while they work. But I know the S&W K frame guns WILL work and are esily maintained., want pictures ?
Gordon
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bottom S&W on right side .38 Hand Ejector was my Grandfathers only centerfire handgun , he also had an Iver Johnson .22 revolver and a 1894 .30 .30 (which I have) , a Savage 99 .22HP/.410 shotgun cased set , which I sold, and a few shotguns of which I Kept the Ithaca SxS .20 gauge and Marlin Widow Maker pump . My dad left me a few rifles and shot guns too as did my two Uncles who were cops with no male heirs.
I own a Colt Officer's Model Special made in 1951. It's had a lot of work done to it. It's SAO, has a different rear sight, and the trigger pull is less than 2 lbs.
There's an older member at our club that has several of the Colts. He's a Army Distinguished Marksman among other awards. He lusts after my old beat up Colt. It's got some scratches and some wear, but it shoots like a laser.
One of these days I'd love to find a K-38 made in 1960.
There's an older member at our club that has several of the Colts. He's a Army Distinguished Marksman among other awards. He lusts after my old beat up Colt. It's got some scratches and some wear, but it shoots like a laser.
One of these days I'd love to find a K-38 made in 1960.
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