I finally had time to peruse the websites to which Mr Weingarten's blog linked ...Did anyone else?
For police, I used a web site that tracks domestic homicides committed by police officers,
LaneJudson.com? BehindtheBlueWall.com? I could not find any statistics there. Simply a litany of blurbs, admittedly some quite tragic stories, recounting instances of homicide linked to domestic violence. Included within: a number of state DOC corrections officers (not sworn police officers), some jail deputies, several "ex," "fired," and "retired" law enforcement officers, some "ex department employees" (exact nature of job unknown) and a few cases of murdered agency personnel (i.e., dispatchers) in which the occupation of the alleged killer also wasn't named.
The data is comparable to the VPC data in that it relies on publicly reported stories.
No, it is not comparable data.
Sadly, Mr. Weingarten relies on anecdote and confuses it with data. As most of us here become irritated or even furious when the anti-gun factions attempt to string together lists of all the tragic deaths caused by firearms, claiming such things as "a firearm in the house is X-times more likely to be used against its owner" etc., we should not allow ourselves to confuse tragic recounting of fatalities with statistical data.
then krupparms again
Can someone answer the questions I asked about as they do apply to this discussion?
Which questions?
It would seem that us former LEOs who have seen some of these things with our on eyes are to be discounted! I was injured in the line of duty, trying to save people whose lives were in imitate danger! That is why I am no longer a police officer! Not because I quit! I have seen this growing crime by the police & L.E. getting away with breaking the law! It must stop! How do we do that? By following the example of the U.S.government?
Fighting until it comes apart! That makes a lot of sense don't it! Can anyone answer the questions I asked? It would be nice to get a civil answer, instead of the same old stuff!
This one?
have seen this growing crime by the police & L.E. getting away with breaking the law! It must stop! How do we do that? By following the example of the U.S.government?
All I can answer here is ... huh?
The above stated, my most sincere thanks and admiration to the majority of those LEOs who don't let that power go to their heads and don't take advantage of their power.
And this has exactly what to do with someone trying to compare the likelihood of lawful concealed carriers committing murders as opposed to the likelihood of police officers committing murders? Do you actually think that if a police officer commits a murder, it is because he has "let all that power go to his head?" Seriously?
I had to laugh a bit to myself when a gent earlier claimed he was seeing all the usual suspects jumping in to defend the police ... I
still haven't seen that, only people noting that the original post actually doesn't contain any valid statistical analysis.