WVMountainBoy
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I run across a lot of things that are a turn off to the normal person on the net. Not often on this particular forum mind you (thats why I'm a member) but it seems there are some poorly worded arguements floating around and some things are often presented in ways that sound like out right lunacy. We all know that we need to be aware of our choices for leadership and that it is best to be proactive in securing our 2nd ammendment rights for future generations. Sometimes though it comes off as "Politician A is a martian with a hidden agenda to implant babies with microchips and bring about doomsday" We really have to avoid that.
I have two friends who are deathly afraid of guns, one due to an accident when she was very young that killed her older brother. She has no issue with gun ownership and even encourages her husband to hunt, but she has him leave his rifle at my place because she can't stomach it being in the house. An associate of ours once picked and ranted her into tears using insults and retoric untill we had to finally demand that he leave and not return. He was the exact reason some people come off as gun crazies. The other friend who has a fear of them is very similiar in that he doesn't personally like them, but supports ownership 100%. He even has a lifetime NRA membership, because he says they do so much for the hunting sports (avid bow hunter) These are deffinantly not the people we need to be harping at or alienating by talking about black helicopters taking our guns in the night. I often back out of threads/conversations/discussions the instant they go the way of the tin foil hat or go anti-LEO.
I don't want anyone to change their beliefs but perhaps not sound so CRAZY. Again this forum is VERY light on it, thus why I participate but I'm sure more than one of you can point out when things have gotten so far towards "the end is nigh" crowd that it would completely make "Non Gun Crowd" people call for mental hygeine. We're all used to it at some level and has participants in our interests those issues are the sum of all fears, but to outsiders, even moderate ones they do sound outlandish. They sound outlandish to some of our fellow gun owners who are a bit more moderate.
I don't want this to be a political thread, instead a general discourse about how to properly betray our ways in front of "non-gunners" or people who are on the fence. I know that my own experiances with the true shooting crowd where I live have been less than pleasurable. Thus why I do my shooting at a private range or on private property.
I don't know about you all, but usually the instant I hear someone say they have buried guns in the woods, start talking about KNOWING secrets they read about on the internet involving huge conspiracies, and start ranting about law enforcement in a detrimental mannor I generally dismiss the person's opinions as fancies of an unsound mind. I'm sure that even a lunatic is right 1 outta 100, but why chase the 99 fictions?
I'm sure we all know of at least one theory out there that has dark shadowy forces in the government plotting elaborate schemes to manipulate the system or us. Its all well and good to be suspicious and very good to ask questions. I'm not trying to pick any fights so I won't point out any one theory to stab at. I just want to point out that people should think about how they word their concerns so they don't sound like a talk radio nut job.
I doubt my little rant here will do any good, but maybe allow some others who have some similiar feelings to speak up. Again I'm not trying to call any theorists out on the carpet to prove their idea, I'm trying to say that maybe you shouldn't stand on a soap box and denounce the rest of the world as "Sheeple" who just don't see the TRUTH.
I have two friends who are deathly afraid of guns, one due to an accident when she was very young that killed her older brother. She has no issue with gun ownership and even encourages her husband to hunt, but she has him leave his rifle at my place because she can't stomach it being in the house. An associate of ours once picked and ranted her into tears using insults and retoric untill we had to finally demand that he leave and not return. He was the exact reason some people come off as gun crazies. The other friend who has a fear of them is very similiar in that he doesn't personally like them, but supports ownership 100%. He even has a lifetime NRA membership, because he says they do so much for the hunting sports (avid bow hunter) These are deffinantly not the people we need to be harping at or alienating by talking about black helicopters taking our guns in the night. I often back out of threads/conversations/discussions the instant they go the way of the tin foil hat or go anti-LEO.
I don't want anyone to change their beliefs but perhaps not sound so CRAZY. Again this forum is VERY light on it, thus why I participate but I'm sure more than one of you can point out when things have gotten so far towards "the end is nigh" crowd that it would completely make "Non Gun Crowd" people call for mental hygeine. We're all used to it at some level and has participants in our interests those issues are the sum of all fears, but to outsiders, even moderate ones they do sound outlandish. They sound outlandish to some of our fellow gun owners who are a bit more moderate.
I don't want this to be a political thread, instead a general discourse about how to properly betray our ways in front of "non-gunners" or people who are on the fence. I know that my own experiances with the true shooting crowd where I live have been less than pleasurable. Thus why I do my shooting at a private range or on private property.
I don't know about you all, but usually the instant I hear someone say they have buried guns in the woods, start talking about KNOWING secrets they read about on the internet involving huge conspiracies, and start ranting about law enforcement in a detrimental mannor I generally dismiss the person's opinions as fancies of an unsound mind. I'm sure that even a lunatic is right 1 outta 100, but why chase the 99 fictions?
I'm sure we all know of at least one theory out there that has dark shadowy forces in the government plotting elaborate schemes to manipulate the system or us. Its all well and good to be suspicious and very good to ask questions. I'm not trying to pick any fights so I won't point out any one theory to stab at. I just want to point out that people should think about how they word their concerns so they don't sound like a talk radio nut job.
I doubt my little rant here will do any good, but maybe allow some others who have some similiar feelings to speak up. Again I'm not trying to call any theorists out on the carpet to prove their idea, I'm trying to say that maybe you shouldn't stand on a soap box and denounce the rest of the world as "Sheeple" who just don't see the TRUTH.