I have a maybe 10 year old comic book where they say the CZ-75 used to be made out of harder metal before it got popular and mass produced, so they softened the metal to a more typical steel. They further say that the old model CZ-75s are rare and sell for thousands of dollars. Is any of this true?
CZ-75 question
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KaceCoyote
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Gunsmith cats?
Mulliga
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Current CZs are made with cast frames. I don't know if they were ever made with forged frames. As far as steel goes, today's CZs will most likely take a lifetime of shooting from anyone save competition shooters and the like. CZ steel certainly don't seem "soft" or low quality. CZs have always been "mass-produced" AFAIK - it was always meant to be an export gun for military use.
The older model CZs are rare enough that you may never see one in the average gun store, but they certainly do not go for thousands of dollars nowadays.
The older model CZs are rare enough that you may never see one in the average gun store, but they certainly do not go for thousands of dollars nowadays.
BloodyRAzorBlades
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haha i think the only guns as of now that go for thousands and thousands are guns like the Genuine ww2 1911's ww1 1911's, mauser c96's and the infamous "Luger".
btw Gunsmith cats is cool, i used to watch the show haha.
btw Gunsmith cats is cool, i used to watch the show haha.
KadicDeshi
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Careful of what you read in GSC. Some of it is just as bad as the gunshop-commando advice we hear about so often. I recently bought the first GSC manga and was hoping (silly me 
) for a little more accurate portrayal of firearms than Hollywood's. I was greatly impressed by the technical details in the drawings but that was about as far as my favorable impression went. I mean, come on. A couch stopping .38 spl rounds? A garrote wire slicing clean through the frame, barrel, and slide of a pistol that's not being braced by anything except Rally's hand?
Anyway, I finally just decided "screw it", ignored the mistakes, and enjoyed the story and eye-candy.
Uhm...the guns. Yeah, I mean the guns.
Barrett
) for a little more accurate portrayal of firearms than Hollywood's. I was greatly impressed by the technical details in the drawings but that was about as far as my favorable impression went. I mean, come on. A couch stopping .38 spl rounds? A garrote wire slicing clean through the frame, barrel, and slide of a pistol that's not being braced by anything except Rally's hand?Anyway, I finally just decided "screw it", ignored the mistakes, and enjoyed the story and eye-candy.
Uhm...the guns. Yeah, I mean the guns.
Barrett
I'll sell you my old one for thousands of dollars.
I have no idea how many 75s were made or where they all went, but you can still find one here and there. Used ones with some wear seem to be around $300-400. LNIB might go for a few hundred more. The older short-rail models might go for even more, but I've never seen anything in the thousands of dollars. They're great pistols, worth buying and shooting, but there doesn't seem to be much collector's value associated with them, yet.
I read somewhere that some of the early ones were made of really hard stuff that occasionally cracked, so they changed something. I can't remember much of the details. As far as I know it has always been mass produced.
I have no idea how many 75s were made or where they all went, but you can still find one here and there. Used ones with some wear seem to be around $300-400. LNIB might go for a few hundred more. The older short-rail models might go for even more, but I've never seen anything in the thousands of dollars. They're great pistols, worth buying and shooting, but there doesn't seem to be much collector's value associated with them, yet.
I read somewhere that some of the early ones were made of really hard stuff that occasionally cracked, so they changed something. I can't remember much of the details. As far as I know it has always been mass produced.
KaceCoyote
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Ya have to remember, Kenichi Sonoda is Japanese. He has absolutely no point of realistic reference for his stories.
Walt Sherrill
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Old "short-rail" CZs bring a premium price. $1500 is not unusual. But the rest of them aren't that different from what you can buy today. I've had a number of the older ones, and several of the newer ones.
They've change the hammer/sear geometry a bit with the introduction of the firing pin block, but otherwise, they're very similar.
A couple of the newer models have forged alloy frames. Most are cast. Most of the full-size models are STEEL; most of the compact models are alloy.
They are all STOUT.
They've change the hammer/sear geometry a bit with the introduction of the firing pin block, but otherwise, they're very similar.
A couple of the newer models have forged alloy frames. Most are cast. Most of the full-size models are STEEL; most of the compact models are alloy.
They are all STOUT.
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