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CZ-75B 9mm Range Report

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CZ-75B 9mm Range Report

Date: September 1, 2003
Location: Gravel pit in Western Washington State
Rounds Fired: 150
Manufacturer: Winchester (various loadings), mostly Wally World Winchester White Box (WWWB)
Malfunctions: Zero

Ergonomics: Wow, what a comfortable pistol to shoot. The backstrap swell and beavertail are extremely will-fitted to my hand (either left or right) and the natural point of aim is perfect for me. Controls are extremely easy to access and use (I would call them reflexively easy to use since I didn’t have to think or fumble for the slide release, magazine release, or the manual safety). The natural position on draw was always centered in the web of my thumb and forefinger. Trigger reach was perfect for my normal center of the pad on the forefinger trigger position.

Recoil: Very controllable, allowing fast sight picture acquisition even during rapid fire, double-taps, and triple-taps. It seems to me that the low bore axis was instrumental in recoil control especially since I always use a high grip. I compared the recoil (with the same ammunition) to my Ruger P95 and as much as I enjoy and trust my P95 the CZ was more controllable.

Trigger: Took a little getting used to at first, long and heavy DA, relatively crisp SA (a little “gritty†right before the hammer drops – but this smoothed out a bit even during only firing 150 rounds; I am assuming that this will continue to smooth out as I fire the pistol more). Definitely not as nice as my SA MilSpec 1911A1 but still a pretty darn nice trigger for an out-of-the-box pistol.

General: First 50 rounds were fired to familiarize myself with the pistol – slow fire at 25, 15, and 7 yards (HydraShoks really mess up a beer can!). The remaining rounds were fired from the draw into a Weaver stance for ten-round strings. I did not bench test for accuracy as I did not have a bench and was firing from the tailgate of my pickup. I was very pleased with the accuracy of this pistol and let it suffice to say that it is far more accurate than I am capable of shooting. Ejection of the spent casings was always at 4 o’clock and made neat little piles of casings (very helpful in policing up my mess).

Overall: I don’t have chronograph stats (don’t even own and wouldn’t know how to use a chronograph), and I didn’t measure the pistol dimensions or the weight of the trigger break but I do know that I am extremely happy with this pistol. If I can get a few hundred more rounds through it without malfunctions caused by the pistol then this will definitely become one of my constant companions. The one quote from the end of the day that I will share is, “I sure am glad I didn’t buy the Beretta 92.†Nothing against Berettas, I have owned several and think they’re incredible, but this CZ has been amazing so far (and MUCH less expensive).

By the way, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department was very pleasant to deal with when they responded to complaints of gunfire . . . checked our CCW licenses (ran us for wants and warrants, I’m sure), checked our backstop, chatted a bit about what we were shooting, made sure we had permission to be on private property, and told us to be safe and have fun.

Have included one picture of a 7-yard, 10-round string. Target is a 25-yard slow fire target.
 
Great and well written review. More than a few shooters Ive dealt with fall in love with CZ's and then its down hill from there. We call it CZ'itis over at the CZForum.
Keep shooting your gun and youll love it even more.

Shoot well
 
DAMNIT. Not ANOTHER postitive range report! I now have the CZ itch BAD!!!

I almost applied for another credit account to buy one this weekend... but I had to control myself.... Must... wait.... for ...... bonus check......

I want one bad!

Minute, I'm glad you're enjoying yours! Definitely get a few hundred more rounds through it. I'm sure you'll like it, from what I've read around. Can't wait to get mine!!
 
Thanks for sharing the review. Well written. You sound like another satisfied CZ customer. Congratulations on a nice pistol.

You're next Matthew.

Gene
 
Arghh. I've got the itch bad too, and no extra money in the near future. :( How do you like the black polycoat? I'm torn between the black polycoat and the satin nickel for whenever I end up with some extra cash.
 
I've got CZs with the polycoat and satin nickel finish and much prefer the nickel...

But the polycoat is a good, durable finish. Its not as pretty as bluing, but much more pratical. A drop, scratch or blow that woud RUIN a blued finish will hardly faze as polycoat finish.

The downside of the polycoat finish is that when it is damaged, there's not an easy way to repair it -- other than to use cold bluing to cover up any exposed metal.

So far -- several years worth -- the satin nickel finish seems impervious.

(I have a ..a polycoated pre-B CZ-75 that came to me looking as though it had been towed behind a pickup on a gravel road. I got the polycoat off and blued it using Ox-Pho Blue and a couple other cold blues. Turned out beautifully, and is holding up really well.)
 
Dang, another glowing report for the CZ-75.

I had planned to get a Colt 1911 for my next gun, but I think I may have to consider getting another "9mm cap-gun." :rolleyes: :D

Glad to hear that it's turning out well for you. Great report.

Wes
 
got me a new "Cap Gun"

Wes,
I know what you mean...... succumbed to peer pressure and traded a buddy out of my new CZ75B cap gun. This one already has been to Mike @ CZUSA for his highly recommended trigger job!

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First range session produced sub 2" groups @ 20 yards with WW white box ball, and 1275fps chrono'd average speed out of 127gr Ranger +p+ carry ammo!

Searching for more hi-caps now:cool:
 
Damn Will. You HAD to go and post that, now didn't you?

My mind is churning... I MIGHT be able to go buy that pistol next Friday when I get paid... since I'm working some OT this weekend...

I think I can... I think I can... I think I can.....


Oh, and what did the triggerjob cost, if you don't mind me asking? How does it compare before/after? I know I'm going to give mine a few hundred rounds before I determine what it feels like before any work... Plus I gotta get a holster... and mags... and ammo... and a mag pouch... and more ammo... and a few more mags... and another holster... and more ammo... and another mag or two...
 
If you like it now, just wait untill you have several 1000 rounds thru it. Like a good pair of shoes, it will fit better and better.
Shoot well and often.
 
Just an update, for those of you who care.

Round count is at 600, still no failures. Just received the CZ75 Kadet .22LR Conversion kit from J&G Sales . . . two, two, two guns in one! Very impressed with the conversion kit. Was especially pleased that the "minor fitting may be required" did not apply to my pistol, kit went on and functioned perfectly.

Got some factory standard-caps coming in the mail . . . this pistol is definitely a keeper.
 
My Kadet Kit (mounted on my 85 Combat) has proved to be virtually as accurate as my Ruger Target Competition (slabside).

I met a guy through the internet who had a nice Witness Sport Long Slide (.45) that he could no longer shoot because of severe arthritis. We traded -- his .45 for my 22. He ended up with a very nice .22 and I now have what has proved to be an exceptionally nice (after a lot of trigger work) .45.

The Kadet Kit is especially handy for practicing presentations and first shots from the holster (I do IDPA).
 
Great. Now I'm gonna have to sell my Buckmark and get the Kadet kit for my soon-to-be CZ. You guys are driving me nuts, you know that, right?

:D

But... the good news... I can probably go pick up my CZ this weekend!! I'm so freakin excited!!

Pics and a range report will be posted!
 
I also have a CZ 75b Tactical and love it great gun. Shoots great also not one problem so far.. Here is a picture of my baby..

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:D
 
Arggh! In addition to this thread, the closest turners just put the 75 tactical on sale for $400 for this week. My girlfriend would kill me if I went out and spent $400 right now. :banghead: *sigh* I need a second job or something so I can get guns.
 
Zer000,

Thats a good a price for the Tactical just think you get a Knife with it also. So its like two things for the price of one..


:D

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Heh, I finally gave in and drove down to turners yesterday. I'll have a shiny new tactical in 9 days! Woohoo!

Doesn't it suck living in the People's Republik of California?

I went to Academy on Friday, and walked out the front with my CZ in about 25 minutes. In and out. Wham bam, thank you ACADEMY.

Ahh... living in a free state... it's nice...


OK... enough gloating. You're gonna dig the CZ dude. Order some mags from a guy who goes by Reddogxx on Gunbroker. Email him, he might cut you a deal if you order several from him. He's sending me 2 15rd mags for $45 SHIPPED.
 
Doesn't it suck living in the People's Republik of California?
Order some mags from a guy who goes by Reddogxx on Gunbroker. Email him, he might cut you a deal if you order several from him. He's sending me 2 15rd mags for $45 SHIPPED.

Yes it does suck. Its illegal in CA to import/buy/sell high caps at all. It is even illegal to lend one you got before the ban to someone else. *sigh* If it wasn't for the weather....
 
***!

If you were on private property (a gravel pit no less) and had permission to be there, then why in the world would police respond to complaints of gunfire from anyone other than the property owners? This is a place you would expect to hear gunfire. Will the police in your area respond to gunfire complaints on opening day of deer season also? Sounds like the cops in your area don't have enough important things to do. Isn't there a Krispy Kreme close by? :D Hopefully they were just bored and wanting to get a range report.;)
 
PackingHeat,
Actually, I was only surprised that the police didn't come sooner. We had been shooting for several hours and had burned through many hundreds of rounds of ammunition. In the fifteen years I've lived in Western Washington every time I've been shooting in any place but one of the two local ranges the police have showed up pretty quickly in response to complaints/reports of gunfire. I've gotten pretty used to it and have come to expect it. To their credit, the police have been pretty reasonable every time. I don't want to get into any "cop bashing" as I try to support my local police as much as possible so I cannot comment on any other reasons why there might be concern about gunfire on private property.
 
How nice to read all the good comments about the CZ75b...

I heard about the Turner's sale, so had to go have a look. Was really interested in a Springfield .45 which was also on sale, but the CZ really felt "right" in my hand, so that's the way I went.

And I totally agree with the comments above regarding the PRK! It'd be really wonderful here, if only it were part of the USA!

Found out that the 10 day waiting period really stuffs me up, I work on Sundays and Mondays, and guess when my 1o day wait finishes up... that's right, on Sunday at 4:58 PM (yes, they time it down to the minute.) So I've got to wait till Tuesday to get acquainted with it... and the clock sure is moving slow.

I've been back to Turner's, and they now have "my" new baby, all greased up & brand new, wrapped in plastic in its carrying box, with an equally greasy but nice looking knife... but all I can do is look, they won't even let me take the instruction manual home with me! Not their fault... it's the !#$%&!! law here... but boy, does this law suck.

Worse yet, they're still having real good sales, and there are a few other nice guns I'd like to have, but yet another PRK law says that I have to wait 30 days before buying the next one. :cuss:

But I'm still hoping that somehow Tom McClintock can make it in as Governor, if he does then maybe there's a chance of changing some of these unConstitutional laws.

Esky

damn! all that only took 3 minutes, and I've got at least another 2,347 minutes still to wait...
 
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