Deactivated Guns For Sale to Brits...Sad

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What really gets me is that fake/prop pistols are going for more than $150 each in the USA, easy. And in the U.K., those poor saps are buying real guns that have been permanently inactivated, and paying more for them than we pay for the real, functioning gun! Many Brits would truly love to own a real gun and, in the absence of that, a real gun that's been welded up.


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It looks like a duck, but doesn't quack like a duck. This deactivated
S&W 686 and the smaller Rossi, are for sale to British subjects (and
I do mean subjects) for a whopping $877.32 (£450). It's like what we
would do with a child, but I guess that's how their governments view
their subjects, as children.



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OMG someone needs to be taken out in the back 40 and :cuss: for "deactivateing" some of those gun they have on that site!!
 
Actually this is more worrying on a different level.

These are NOT weapons and I'm fairly sure could be imported into the US with minimal hassle

WHY I hear you say........

A number of the weapons come with fully operational selective fire fire control groups and working parts.

AK 47 http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/AK47_3.htm
FAL http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Falklands_war_slr_2.htm
M16A1 http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/M16A1_deactivated3.htm
Sig 542 http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/sig_sg542_2.htm
Fully A L1A1 http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/l2a1.htm

Last time I looked a M16A1 would put you back 15K...

Of course that would be wholly illegal......
 
So why is that "worrying" if it is illegal? The high cost of legal full autos has nothing to do with parts.
 
This one Just makes me cry.

This is like when people send dogs to the pound. Except it's not a no-kill shelter. This is the kind where they take in dogs, and kill them and then taxidermy them so they can sell what LOOKS like a dog to their customers.

I wonder what they do to "deactivate" and if someone with a little technical savvy could "reactivate" them.
 
Deactivated 357 magnum calibre Smith & Wesson Revolver in excellent condition.

Its not in excellent condition if it has been destroyed damn it!

19-3Ben said:
I wonder what they do to "deactivate" and if someone with a little technical savvy could "reactivate" them.

I dont know about this specific company, but the P-38 that my grandfather captured during the occupation and were sent for deactivation when my mother inherited it had the barrel cut open on the underside, had a steel rod welded into the chamber, and had the slide welded shut and the magazine were somehow permanently attached to something inside the former gun. A deactivated gun is more or less copmpletely destroyed.
 
Yeah, but the really sad part is that their government has deprived them of the God-given right of self defense through firearms and even knives (which, by the way, are being outlawed if they have pointy blades). Yet the people still appreciate the fine workmanship of firearms and will buy even deactivated firearms if that's all they can have.

This proves that there is no God-given right that can't be taken away by bad governments, dictators and corrupt assemblies. I have no doubt that if the government was able to take away all the guns in the U.S., that there would be many people out there who would want even a deactivated one.

Look at it this way. You have some friends over to your London flat and you watch a riveting American movie like Dirty Harry or a few reruns of the X-Files. Afterwards, you go to your safe and open it and you produce a real deactivated Smith & Wesson revolver that has a real working action. Your friends oooh and awww over it and talk about how heavy it is and what it must be like to shoot one. After it's been passed around and people have taken pictures of themselves holding the gun on their little cell phones, they all talk about how neat it was and go their ways. You take the gun, wipe it down, snap it once or twice and wonder what it must be like to have a real one. But, no, only in that murderous gun-crazy land of the U.S. are the people actually allowed by their (for now) magnanimous government to own a gun. It's not any real sweat to you because you're weathy and can go to a gun club and shoot an overpriced gun you bought that now has to be kept locked up on the club's premesis when you're not using it. But what would it be like to actually shoot it and take it home and clean it there! Or to keep it in a drawer, loaded, for self protection.

These people live in a whole different world than we do. And I have no doubt that we'll be there if we keep electing the people we've been electing. Each new gun bill must be compromised. You give up a little and, in return, the opposition doesn't quite get everything it wanted, which are your guns. But the Brits and the Canadians, and the Australians are perfect examples of where compromise eventually leads.

Sorry to be so preachy, but it's worth remembering at times.

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Smith & Wesson Model 6906: Deactivated Smith & Wesson Model 6906
Pistol with a 15 round capacity, chambered for 9mm. A fantastic looking
pistol with its Stainless finish and black grips. Deactivated with a working
action it can be stripped, cocked and dry fired. A superb looking example
in stunning condition. Comes in its own hard carry case.


Doesn't fire, but it comes with its own hard carry case. But where
would you carry it?
 
There are also a lot of nice British rifles mutilated by reaming them into smoothbore "shotguns" because for many years it has been much more difficult to get a firearms (rifle) certificate than a shotgun certificate.
 
There is a British Deactivated Gun Collectors organization in the U.K. It's aim is to ensure that its members will have a "collective voice in the coming debate," which will better enable their interests and concerns to be raised. "The government and the the public need to clearly understand that collectors and owners of deactivated guns are serious about their collecting, often have a deep knowledge of their subject and are not common criminals who require to be legislated for."

In short, it appears as if the U.K. is now threatening to outlaw deactivated guns.

Here's some additional information: Click here for a FAQ on deactivated guns. There are photos (warning: not for the sqeamish).
 
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An idea

We all seem to know somebody who has blown up a gun. What about advertising these guns that blew up, for whatever reason, as 'Deactivated' Genuine Fired Guns? (Or some fancy title).

If these are paying that kind of money for real guns that are made into paperweights (and I cry over the thought of Lugers and such being ruined), why not see what those people would pay for OUR junk! :D

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Look at it this way. You have some friends over to your London flat and you watch a riveting American movie like Dirty Harry or a few reruns of the X-Files. Afterwards, you go to your safe and open it and you produce a real deactivated Smith & Wesson revolver that has a real working action. Your friends oooh and awww over it and talk about how heavy it is and what it must be like to shoot one. After it's been passed around and people have taken pictures of themselves holding the gun on their little cell phones, they all talk about how neat it was and go their ways. You take the gun, wipe it down, snap it once or twice and wonder what it must be like to have a real one.
Should we draw a similar parallel between semiauto military clones that US citizens feel so lucky to play with while the real thing is out of reach for most for a variety of reasons?
 
Should we draw a similar parallel between semiauto military clones that US citizens feel so lucky to play with while the real thing is out of reach for most for a variety of reasons?

Yes.
 
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Drooling over that third pin.
 
I wonder how these are deactivated? It looks like the Smith's barrel has been welded shut, but why not just remove the barrel and fire from the cylinders? Won't be accurate but it will work for 10 or 20 yards OK.
 
everallm, ya can buy all of the guns you listed as parts sets which contain everything except the reciever for a few hundred bucks here in the USA any day of the week.... and those come with all of the full auto parts as well........ WHY would anyone even have any interest in paying 4 times more for a deactivated copy with parts which have been welded and ground away etc... when they can get em without any tampering and simply reassemble on a semi reciever???? if they wanted to illegally convert that semi reciever it only requires a couple hours of mill time for the most difficult down to a couple minutes for the simplest (the AK) ya got me totally lost with your "worrysome"..... as asked already what is supposed to be so "worrysome" bout it????
 
I cant think of anything more worthless than a gun that doesnt shoot. I quess you could use it as a hammer
 
I'm gonna stop complaining about how much firearms costs nowadays. Atleast we have the real thing. Are these deactivated firearms really popular over there?
 
In short, it appears as if the U.K. is now threatening to outlaw deactivated guns.
Gosh, I hope they do! Then they'll stop the killings (of the guns, that is). And maybe once they see their government taking away harmless non-guns, they'll finally come to their senses and start demanding that their natural rights be returned to them. And maybe they'll stop calling car hoods "bonnets."
 
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