Dealing with family

[Chrontius]

Ok, here's the deal. Live-at-home college student. Job, money, but not *nearly* enough to move out yet.

My mother, while having considered a CCW permit a while back, will not permit firearms in the house (or motorcycles or tattoos) under threat of ... dire retribution ranging from living on the porch (hurricane season... or heck, Florida summers. *shudder*) to disowning.

How do I talk her into a Walther G22 before the Phaser Rifle Gray ones go out of stock and not-on-sale?

I've tried taking her to the range, shooting down (no pun intended) her arguments, and now it's ... just an arbitrary no. OTOH, she considered it for half a minute before repeating that again. I'll ask again... and again, and again. I won't give in until I move out, or I'm oiling my new toy. Normally I can afford to be patient, but... Walther made them limited-edition. I'm irritated.

No "move out" "you're screwed" or "do it anyway" posts, but... anything else is appreciated.

 

[k_semler]

You have a bed with a matress right? Just cut it open, install a zipper on the bottom of it, and hide it in there. Or just do what I did, and buy shotgun case to keep your "breakables" in, such as CD's, movies, etc. After she sees it for 4 or 5 months, she won't think anything of it. Then buy your pistol and hide it in there among your assortment of crap, (and let's face it, it probably is crap that you don't need). Considering I could hide a rifle and a pistol in my room when I was with my folks, (rifle in case behind bookcase next to bed, and pistol buried under socks in drawer), you can easily find a place to hide a simple handgun. At least with only a hand gun, you won't have to worry about only cleaning your room when nobody's home. Depending on how bad you want to hide it, I suppose you could duct-tape it to the heater vent going into your room. (remove gaurd, duct tape out of sight but in easy reach, replace gaurd, screw down).

Crap, I feel like I'm suggesting on how to hide illicit drugs or something. Ever thought of just keeping it in your car?

 

[quazi]

Maybe if you buy a handgun safe, and say that she can keep the key. It would be irritating, I know, but at least you would be able to get the gun you want.

There is one other way I can think of. We aren't allowed to keep weapons in the dorms, but we can keep them locked up in the campus police station. You might want to see if your college allows something similar.

 

[Chrontius]

G22 is a bullpup carbine in .22 Long Rifle. CDNN expects to run out in a week.

Cars are shared, but it's the sort of thinking I like.

College police station's not a bad idea, but I think it may be against Florida law. barf I'll check tomorrow.

 

[The Good]

are you trying to do this without deception?

cause i was gonna say the same thing as the first post. get a safe and hide it somewhere. if she finds the safe say theres embarassing stuff in there like love notes from your 9th grade girlfriend and what not.

my best advice for convincing her to let you have it would be show her your CCW permit and tell her the police consider me responsible enough to have this and i feel it is my responsibility to have a weapon now that ihave the knowledge and training necessary. tell her you would hate to be in a situation where you could help but have your hands tied.

 

[quazi]

G22 is a bullpup carbine in .22 Long Rifle. CDNN expects to run out in a week.

Oops, I read "Walther" and assumed handgun.

 

[Wiley]

How do I talk her into a Walther G22 before the Phaser Rifle Gray ones go out of stock and not-on-sale?

Ya don't. Look, they (or something even better) will be on sale next year, two years from now, five years from now. Don't sweat the small stuff. And don't try an go around the edges, it ain't worth it.

I'm 57. My mother said no motorcycles, no this, no that, etc when I was growing up. After I was on my own (my roof, my rules) I got a motorcycle, sold the car and spent the next 7-8 years on two wheels. Never had a problem with Mom. I'm sure she didn't like it but she recognised that I was an adult, paying my own way, and it wasn't her place to say anything. (She's kinda cool that way.) She's now in a Nursing home and the roles have reversed.

Comming up to high school graduation, I didn't want to go to college, I wanted to go into the military. Folks shot that down, so I went (for almost a year, flunked out (simi-deliberatly). Enllisted in the Navy. Had fout great years, decided to go back to college and had another four great years. Point being: My roof-my rules.

I've built a mental 'to-do' list and I been gradualy checking them off. Do the same. For everything on my list, there's somebody that isn't going to like it. But, 'my roof, my rules'.

BTW, anybody got a Formula car that I can get 10-15 laps in? On a decient road course? F3 or better?

 

[hso]

Since you want it as a collectable have her hold it for you in a locked gun case. Explain that you'd be happy to wait until you move, but there may not be any more and you'd be grateful if she'd help with this. You buy the gun, she keeps the gun in a locked case and the key and case and you only get it to go to the range. Eventually she'll feel silly about it and you'll have advanced the cause.

 

[TIMC]

Honesty is the best policy. Respect you parents wishes while in their home. It is not worth the wedge you will drive between you. I'm quite sure you would want the same repect on something you felt strongly about. When you get on your own do what you want. there will always be another gun, parents are limited. Going against their wishes in their own home for ones petty desires is just wrong. Sorry if it sounds rude but it is the right thing to do. Maturity is "I don't agree with you mom but I will abide by it since I love and respect you".

 

[lance22]

Well ... you seem like a peace loving guy which is a good start because you can't argue your way into a parent's mind. You seem like you are living within your parent's constraints which is admirable. I think TIMC said it all.

Here's some advice: When you move out don't get an ANTI 2A wife. You have to wait a year or two to buy that nice piece no big deal as time will pass quickly and before you know it you will be out on your own. But if you leave home only to get a wife who is anti-gun, then the rest of your life you are doomed to struggle with what should be a given.

 

[pax]

Do you have a friend who has an extra space in his safe?

pax

 

[TaxPhd]

One of the joys of not being a dependent child, but rather an adult that is able to take care of himself, is that these situations no longer arise. Living under someone elses roof requires following the rules of the roof owner. To not do so would be very disrespectful.

 

[ScottsGT]

Moms doing you a favor. That rifle is UGLY!!
Got a close friend that you can trust it with? Have a friend keep it, but you have the key to the trigger lock and case lock.

 

[hksw]

As her if purchasing a small safe (or whatever the safe experts call them) to store it in would ease her mind.

 

[CNYCacher]

Right On

One of the joys of not being a dependent child, but rather an adult that is able to take care of himself, is that these situations no longer arise. Living under someone elses roof requires following the rules of the roof owner. To not do so would be very disrespectful.

Seconded

 

[rbernie]

Most indoor ranges will sell a small locker for a nominal fee. I'd buy it and keep it in there - you get what you want and she get's her rule's respected.

 

[Working Man]

If you can convince her to let you have it that is one thing.
But to hide it would plain disrespectful and if it was found she would lose all
trust in you.

Her house, her rules.

 

[Technosavant]

If you don't have a friend who will house it, then I would recommend not doing anything. Put the money in the bank, and add to it, little by little. When you get on your own, go get it. They'll keep making the G22.

Guns go on sale from time to time. The last time I bought a gun because I thought it was on sale, I turned out to be mistaken- that was the normal price. I don't regret having done it, but I should have exercised more forethought. You don't want to rush into any firearm purchase, lest you look back and think "dang, I should have dont X instead...".

 

[k_semler]

Here's another thought. Rent a locker at a bus station, train station, or Store4U place. It will be off the premisis, and would not be in violation of any of her rules. (no guns under my roof). So long as you have it off the premisis, what's the problem?

 

[lacoochee]

Keep them at the campus police station

I kept my firearms at the campus police station on USF, they will most likely still do this for you. Just make sure you keeped them locked and cased when you go in, you don't want any misunderstandings.

http://www.usfpd.usf.edu/serv.asp

They still do, there's your solution.

Deo Vindice

 

[doubleaes2]

If you're close enough to me, you're welcome to use a slot in my safe. Seriously.

 

[Chrontius]

In about the order stuff was suggested:

The Good:
I'm going to get the CCW regardless. Worst case, I switch my flashlight for an Asp baton. On the other hand, when she tells me to take my sister to the mall and keep an eye on her, the first thing I think is "Great. About the only thing I can do for her is die first."


Wiley:
That would be another potential hobby, but it involves being written out of the will. Besides that, you suggested my default course of action (story of my life).


Hso:
I'd try that too. OTOH, she tells me I know why she's refusing. I don't. Ironically, she considered getting her permit and probably would have had my little shooting-range expedition not morphed into a office permit-party on my sister's birthday. (Not even at the free place - I provided coupons)


Lance:
yes. Read too many horror stories here. To start off, I'm a Nice Guy. The kind females turn to after their bad breakup. As a result, landing a date is nigh unto impossible, especially considering that I'd like to be able to have a conversation. I'm a geek - that rather limits areas of my enjoyment, on top of that. You're right - time will pass, hairlines will recede, and the thrill will be gone. I like the bit about "doomed to struggle" - that's about how I'm feeling by now. I've been working on my parents for three years now. My father isn't even neutral - at least he stopped tirading - and my mother simply clammed up.


Rbernie:
Possibly the most practical solution. I'll call around *glance at clock* today.


Technosavant: I've been grimacing at prices on these for about two years, and trying to decide between a Browning auto-22 and the Walther G22. Walther has better balance, but Browning's slightly prettier. If the Walther didn't scream "Type 3 Phaser Rifle" it wouldn't get *any* points in this category.


K:
It's not "under her roof". Good turn of phrase, but not hers. Her original deal involved off-site storage; when I confronted her with plans to do so, she reneged.


Doubleaes:
Probably the nicest offer I've gotten in a while, especially out of the blue like that. Unfortunately... I'll let Google say it. "Distance: 101 mi (about 2 hours 20 mins)" Thank you for the offer.

 

[Dacoda]

Have you ever taken your mom shooting? if not, think about it, take her to the range, demonstrate safe firearm handling and teach her the same.

if she has a good time, you'll have a new range buddy. and some new guns to shoot

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

This is one situation where you absolutely, positively must disobey your parents for their own good.


Look, there are those that will put you down for living with your parents, ignore them. At the same time, your parents, IMO, are being too restrictive as you are now an adult, and if they haven't raised you well enough to trust you with a firearm, why do they even let you in the house in the first place? Makes no sense. OK to drive a 2,500lb deadly weapon - check, OK to join military and control multi-million dollar WMD's - check, OK to legally buy a firearm - check. Keep a .22LR in the house - NO GO.

But hey, that's mom for you.


I've been in the exact same position as you. Solution: get the rifle, hide it or lock it up, don't say anything, go about your business. Soon enough, you will be on your own and this will be a memory.

 

[Optical Serenity]

This is one situation where you absolutely, positively must disobey your parents for their own good.

HAHAHA!

+1

Thats great.