Desert Eagle

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I just bought a Desert Eagle .44 (it'll be in tomorrow). Get t his, I read that due to it being gas powered, you can't shoot light loads or there's a strong chance that it'll jam in the barrell. I called the guys at Dillion Precission and they concurred. I was told when reloading, I should load towards the higher recommended amount. And, H110 was recommended. :evil:
Man, tongiht, I'm going to kick out a few hundred rounds. I don't know how I'm going to be able to sleep tongiht.
 
As a Desert Eagle owner...

Yes, it's truly gas-powered, compared to most other autoloading pistols. The gas port in the barrel is actually at the junction of the chamber and rifling throat, tapping off the gas pressure fairly early, then running it forward in the gas tube under (and integral to) the barrel and reversing to work the slide-mounted gas piston. The length of the gas tube and route it takes tends to slow down the cycling until well after the bullet has left the barrel.

The Desert Eagle is a big chunk of steel, no questions about it. It has an M16/AR-15 pattern bolt and barrel extension, with a solid lock-up. To cycle the gun, it does indeed need a good volume of gas pressure, so light loads are often the culprit to malfunctions.

Magnum Research actually has a webpage with recommended factory ammo that reliably cycles the big gas gun. If you handload, it's not too difficult to duplicate those factory rounds to ensure your gun works smoothly.

I have a .357 Magnum Desert Eagle, and it's even more fussy about the ammo it fires. Getting the gun to cycle at all with ammo less than 148gr is well-nigh impossible, and the previous owner of my gun gave up on it because he was trying to feed it 125gr JHP ammo. Since he figured it was a piece of junk, he sold it to me for $400 worth of computer parts. I'd been reloading .357 Magnum ammo for years on my Dillon Square Deal B, so it was no problem for me to make a batch of 158gr ammo that worked in the gun no problems.

H-110 is a darned good powder for the Desert Eagle, clean-burning and slow enough to move a big bullet with good gas port pressures. I use that, and also WW296 (Which some say is the same powder, different label on the can).

Remember, the big, heavy iron needs a big gas volume to cycle, kind of like a steam locomotive - not necessarily pressure, but *volume*. The .44 Magnum Desert Eagle has an easier time of it, thanks to the case volume of the .44 Magnum cartridge. But if you start reducing loads down closer to .44 Special performance, the gun will suffer.

Wildey and .44 AutoMag pistols are also pretty fussy about their ammo, for pretty much the same reasons. The LAR Grizzly and Coonan magnum autoloaders aren't gas-operated, so they need an ammo range that provides the proper recoil momentum to cycle their 1911-style actions. ;)
 
Gewehr98

That was a mouthful........

Thanks for the explanation. I tend to handload heavy loads so it shouldn't be a problem. Here's a question for you. In your opinion, is the OAL different for a .357 revolver than a .357 DE? I'm curious as to how those huge bullets are going to fit into the magazine.
 
Not that big a problem, really.

You'll just have to make a single .44 Mag round, and see where the bullet nose sits in the Desert Eagle's magazine. Give it enough clearance to move smoothly in the magazine as the follower goes up and down with 10 rounds. The throat in the gun itself is long enough that you won't have problems with magazine-length rounds being too long.

Then - mark the box of rounds you created as DESERT EAGLE ONLY rounds. I say that because firing them in an alloy-framed Smith & Wesson 329 can have some serious consequences. If you have a Ruger Super Blackhawk, then you're probably ok running the Desert Eagle ..44 Mag handloads in the beefier revolver. If the Desert Eagle is your only gun that runs that chambering, then you're all set. ;)
 
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.44 loads

I'm getting ready to start creating. I also have a Super RedHawk in .44 caliber. Almost anything will fit into a Revolver. If my OAL is not correct for the DE, I'm sure that I can still use them in the Super RedHawk.
 
I had a Desert Eagle 44 Magnum until I traded it. (Wish I kept it. Sure was a fun gun). Never had a problem with full 44 Mag handloads in it. H110 is an excellent powder, but just keep it close to Max loads using any of the Handloading data available.

Enjoy the toy.
 
Powders to use in the DE H110,296 and AA#9 stay away from 2400 according to DE folks this powder will cause the pistol to beat itself to death. Their site explains it better than I can. I used AA#9 in my DE had very good luck with it.
 
AA # 9

Hey Highlander, I never used (or thought about using) AA#9 for .44. I've always used AA#9 for 10mm.
What's the recipe that you use for .44?
 
I don't have the DE any more had to sell as I was out of work but check any good loading manuals or the AA website they have good info on what combinations work well
 
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