Did I hear this correctly on "Mail Call??"

[Jrob24]

I attended Col. Grossmans lecture "The bulletproof mind" @ my University.
Despite being designed for LEO's I found it very interesting.

 

[280PLUS]

during wwI,,,

the boys had a saying...

"It takes a ton of lead to kill a man."

it indicates that even back then "spray and pray" was the order of the day,

and theres really not all THAT many real marksmen on any battlefield

if you got a hit, it was mostly a lucky shot

and if you got hit, well, that would have been bad luck on your part...and good luck on the enemy's...

so in all actuality, things havent really changed much in the last 100 years or so,,,

when i see the film clips of battle aftermaths in iraq i notice an awful lot of spent shells layering the ground, so chances are we'll see the same kind of rounds spent per kill ratios as we have in the past

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[Cameron]

Anyway, what I heard about the 3 shot Burst on the M16A2 was that the Army was basically unable to teach trigger control to such a large pool of recruits in the time allotted, so, of course, 'technology' is the answer...

I've read that the 3-shot burst was a Marine Corp. idea that was eventually adopted by the Army when they replaced the A1.

 

[RustyHammer]

Total cartridges produced in wartime (any caliber) devided by the number of enemy killed.

This includes rifle, machine gun, and AA type rounds as well.

At least, that is what I seem to recall reading once.

Will see if I can find reference and will post, if found.

 

[BigG]

Rustyhammer, I suspect you're right. So that means whatever stats the armories produced, i.e., we produced 50 quintillion rds of ammo divided by the official body count. No allowance for folks getting blown up, ammo never issued and declared surplus, etc. etc. In other words, like most stats, IMPRESSIVE, but fraught with problems, ambiguities, fallacies, etc.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Anybody can make up statistics. 68% of people know that.

 

[Wombat]

Dang it Nightcrawler - get your numbers right!

Since 89% of people went to publik skul and only 42% of publik skul graduates can add, much less do statistics, only 37% of people can make up statistics.

 

[GSMD Fan]

Although it makes an interesting topic I also think these stats are worthless.

Who did the VC/NVA send their casualty feeder reports too?
That would be the only way to know the true casualties. I would venture to say there is no way we know the true number of casualtys the Iraqs have had.

How many body parts are needed to get credit for a enemy casualty? I mean if a 2000lb bomb hits a bunker who the hell knows who are what was in there?

What heck is the story with the ammo? Like others suggested, was that total ammo sent over there? Did that include lost, destroyed, given to allied troops? Was brass counted after it was policed up?

Did you discount any misfires?

See, I just think it makes for an interesting discussion. Without the story behind the statistics it is worthless.

 

[BigG]

GSMD: That's it buddy, just a lot of talk, and you know how much talk is worth!