Disarmed Katrina survivor recovering from surgery files federal lawsuit

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Pilgrim

I would like to make a contribution to help out with her attorney's fees.


I say we donate to help her with living costs. The attorney will get plenty in the settlement. I say we donate to help this lady get something a little better than ramen noodles.

/Go Granny Go.
 
I gotta disagree. The place needed to be evacuated to minimize looting. That means EVERYBODY has to go. If it had been me, I would have hated to leave but I would have hated looters running rampant even more.


This is a joke right? That's has to be the most backward logic ever besides removing guns from the law abiding for their safety.
 
You said it. This is America friends and here if someone wants to drink a bucket of toxic water while smoking a cigarette standing naked in the snow with a shotgun in one hand and a ***** in the other then they should have the right to do so. There is NEVER any excuse to force people from their land and even if it is IMMINENTLY DEADLY then they certainly should not seize the persons arms for no reason and assault them without even giving them two seconds to grab a few things. Truly sad. Anyone who likes having officers drag then out of their home forcibly and disarm them should try living in the middle east for a while. They'd probably love it.
 
How come every time the gov't screws up---things get smoothed over with OUR tax dollars---costing us all????

Guess I'd like to see the "perps" spend some jail time on our tax dollar too----let's see how fast things get cleaned up when these scumbags have to spend some serious jail time for civil rights violations and assault.

I'm not talkin a month or two in the county slammer----but a few years in the state pen or a nice federal facility such as Leavenworth.
 
I just hope she sues Ray Nagin and Blanco personally. The C of Police resigned so he won't be in on the graft which is NOLA politics.

Nagin will be worth Billion$ after we dump the Federal money he is pleading for this week in Congress. Billion$.

Get him before he buys his private island. :evil:
 
Backfired said:
I gotta disagree. The place needed to be evacuated to minimize looting. That means EVERYBODY has to go. If it had been me, I would have hated to leave but I would have hated looters running rampant even more.
The guns need to come off the street to minimize the danger to the children. That means EVERYBODY has to give up their guns. :rolleyes:

IMO - The woman deserves to win, and win large, her lawyer along with her. How dare the city government declare a basic human right (in this country at least) null and void? They broke laws in a big way, and roughed this woman up to do it. +1 on the thought of her living on her own island someplace. Warm and safe from the JBTs.
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This situation is why so many people are afraid of, and question everything the government does.

Lots of mistakes made by the government here. The forcible removal of people who had safe shelter, food, and water is inexcusible.

The confiscation of lawfully owned firearms by law abiding citizens makes me speechless. :cuss:

I really had believed that it would never come to this and I hope that this incident is an anomily and will never happen again.

Ms Konie deserves every penny she will get.

Rob
 
I gotta disagree. The place needed to be evacuated to minimize looting. That means EVERYBODY has to go. If it had been me, I would have hated to leave but I would have hated looters running rampant even more.

Buddy, let me tell ya.....there is a big, big , BIG difference in you and me!!!
 
N.O.La police, Louisiana NG and the 82nd Airborne said they would not
disarm lawabiding citizens. So they brought in California Highway Patrol
and deputized them to go out and bodyslam the Patricia Konies and
take their guns.

After remaining in custody for several hours without charges being filed against her by authorities, she was flown alone to South Carolina where she remained for more than a month

This is not a new tactic.

After the 1993 Waco raid, one of the witnesses, gun dealer Henry McMahon, who knew that David Koresh had offered to let the ATF peaceably inspect his guns and paperwork months before the raid, was taken into "protective custody" and moved around the country to keep him from talking to reporters.
 
Considering that:

• a federal judge has already ruled the taking of firearms from the residents of New Orelans who stayed behind to be illegal

• not evacuating in Lousiana is only a misdemeanor

• authorities weren't really evacuating everyone, only selectively taking away certain people

I don't see how this woman could lose. I just hope the CHP officers who perpatrated this crime get jail time too, or at the very least have to pay a signifcant fine and settlement. I don't know why people worry about the CHP having to pay a large fine. California has such a huge, wasteful, bloated budget that a couple million dollars is a drop in the bucket, and it would be worth it to send a message, and it would be me & my fellow Californians, not the rest of you, paying.

By the way, the footage of the CHP attacking the woman is from KTVU, which is a Fox-afiliated TV station in Oakland, CA.
 
good for her. i saw the video and it was terrible. the california highway patrol was just getting warmed up for when the go door to door in san francisco to disarm the subjects up there.
 
The video is edited.

I remember the original footage. If I remember right, when the LEO tackled her, you could her yell "You son of a bitchhhh" as she was going down.

I'm sure the unedited video will get plenty of air time in court.
 
Creeping Incrementalism said:
Considering that:

• a federal judge has already ruled the taking of firearms from the residents of New Orelans who stayed behind to be illegal

• not evacuating in Lousiana is only a misdemeanor

• authorities weren't really evacuating everyone, only selectively taking away certain people

I don't see how this woman could lose. I just hope the CHP officers who perpatrated this crime get jail time too, or at the very least have to pay a signifcant fine and settlement. I don't know why people worry about the CHP having to pay a large fine. California has such a huge, wasteful, bloated budget that a couple million dollars is a drop in the bucket, and it would be worth it to send a message, and it would be me & my fellow Californians, not the rest of you, paying.

By the way, the footage of the CHP attacking the woman is from KTVU, which is a Fox-afiliated TV station in Oakland, CA.

I think the CHP was practicing for Kalifornistans eventual confiscation(sp.?) of guns.:cuss:
 
She called him a Son of a Bitch?????

While being bodyslammed by a 200+ pound gorilla????Wow, how awful. Put her in a dungeon on bread and water. Give the cop a hero award. Can't let them edit out such damning evidence of citizen abuse of police. Get real, Engineer1515. :fire:
 
Claire Wolfe wrote the book "101 Things To Do Before The Revolution", and is often quoted for "It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

"Paging Mrs. Wolfe" is usually a reference to asking if it's not "too early" anymore.
 
Gunpacker said:
While being bodyslammed by a 200+ pound gorilla????Wow, how awful. Put her in a dungeon on bread and water. Give the cop a hero award. Can't let them edit out such damning evidence of citizen abuse of police. Get real, Engineer1515. :fire:

I don't think thats how Engioneer1515 intended that. I think he was just pointing out that the video had been edited. We are probably all still on the same side of the discussion here.
 
I repeat myself, I repeat myself

I posted earlier on this after it happened:

A lot of us have seen or at least heard about the Channel 2
video reported by Ken Wayne who accompanied the California
Highway Patrol (CHiP) to New Orleans. To recap:

The ChiPs ran into a Patricia Konie, an elderly woman
whose house on Magazine Street was dry and intact. She
saw no need to evacuate. She had survived hurricanes before
for several days without running water or electricity.

Patricia Konie: "You're gonna have to shoot me because
I'm not going. I don't want you in here, period.

"I'm ok. I've got food, water, supplies, I'm not
afraid of looters, I've got a gun".

CHiP: "Can I see your gun?"

Konie: "Sure."

She held the gun around the cylinder, butt down, barrel up.

Three CHiPs the size of football lineman bodyslammed Konie
into the wall, yelling "She's got a gun!" They took her gun
and dragged her out of her house. She was taken by military
transport to be processed at the Convention Center: yes
indeed, much safer than her own home, especially a home with
a gun in it.

Reporter Ken Wayne justified this treatment to his
newsanchors back in California by saying that "it's an
indication of what highway patrol officers and police from
all over the nation are finding as they assist [local police]
in trying to evacuate this city. Dennis, Julie."

Dennis: "Ken, they are obviously going to use physical
force to remove someone who does not want to go. The obvious
question now is, would they use deadly force?"

Ken: "Well, I don't think so, Dennis. I mean, here you
had a woman with a gun, she's eldery, she doesn't appear to
be a threat, but a gun is a gun. And the officers certainly
had the option, you would think, in using deadly force. They
are not kicking down doors. They are not dragging people
from their homes, but in this case the woman had a gun, so
that's a bit of a different scenario. In the cases, the
other cases we saw, there were dozens of other people who
were removed. Most came out willingly, a few grumbled
about it...." otherwise they were good little sheeple and
not like the big, bad wolfwoman.

California troopers could not understand the mindset of
New Orleaners who are used riding out hurricanes then
doing without electricity or tap water for days, especially
people who traditionally keep guns at home for protection
and stockpile food, water and medicine for emergencies.
 
but in this case the woman had a gun, so
that's a bit of a different scenario.
Yes. It is a bit of a different scenario. They had a person willing, able, and ready to take care of her own business. They should have minded theirs.
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AMEN! Again I can only say that this is truly upsetting and I hope this issue is addressed and I don't mean in the typical sweep it under the rug fashion.
 
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