Do we need glenn beck on our side?

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i notice every time i post a thread that goes against the THR populous a bit, i get in trouble for language and get edited...but i see much worse (and sometimes the same) language in other posts that goes "unnoticed" and unedited. Is this one of those deals where you're not welcome to divert from the status quo, even if just a bit? just wondering
 
The 2nd A needs as many mouths (even big mouths) to speak to as many ears that will listen. The NRA needs all, because there are too many gun owner's that sit on their hands and will not speak up for the 2nd A.
 
deep south, where are you down here? im in huntsville Al...unless you dont want all to be privy to that info of course
 
The nuts keep life interesting. If everyone was ho hum about things, life would be pretty boring. I listen to Becks radio show when I can. O'Reilly saw the talent in Beck.
 
Beck self-identifed as a radical to co-opt the radical message of Thomas Paine's Common Sense to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

Beck self-identified as a Tea Partier to co-opt the Tea Party to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

Beck is now self-identifying as a Libertarian so that he can co-opt it to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

On guns, Glenn Beck is not on our side, he is on Glenn Beck's side.

Our latest wins are due entirely to grassroots activism and having a "spokesperson" will dilute and diffuse that power thereby only weakening our movement. Glenn Beck is only attracted to our cause because it is something to be exploited.
 
NRA is doing a good job. We need speakers who are passionate and able to articulate the core beliefs of the 2 A. We are all gun and freedom loving people who cherish the 2A and hated tyranny . United States was founded on the bedrock that we defeated tyranny aka British Monarchy 200 plus years ago. We need to keep that fervor alive or else it will come back in a different circumstance . We must always remain vigilant. History can repeat if we are not careful.

The question now is, who are these new tyrants or lookalikes and their derivatives?
 
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Glenn Beck is our friend. He takes a practical approach to virtually everything, and always insures his reasoning in on a Godly path, and exudes absolute personal responsibility. I can understand if you don't like him because of the God stuff, but if you are intellectually honest and willing to take the high road no matter what the circumstances or consequences, he is your guy.
 
The problem we have when we look for the perfect Candidate and the perfect Person to Represent our issue is that the other side doesn't stop.
The Gun Control crowd doesn't care that "Uncle Joe" advised people to just stick the shotgun up in the air and let off both barrels. He did this weeks after Sandyhook, is anyone on their side going to repremand him? Of course not, and here is why. THEY DO NOT CARE IF THEY ARE WRONG OR IRRESPONCABLE, THEY JUST WANT THEIR MESSAGE OUT THERE !
You know what? If we are here discussing this, to some degree that tactic must be working, to some degree it must have us nervous.

I want as many voices with as many backgrounds, from as many points of view shouting from the roof tops not to take our rights!

Beck, Palin, Nugent, I welcome them all; because everyone of them has the same rights ot an opinion as we do. We need to hear these opinion, we need to broadcast these opinions. We need to wake America up.

The bad thing about our side is we dont want to offend anyone, well I'm pretty much sick of that. I dont care who is offended or how offended they get anymore.
By their whining, lyng, lack of understanding and education on the issues they have shown me they have already chosen a side and they are the enemy of my rights. I hope they are offended, because their very existance is an offence to everything good and free and right about America.
 
[/QUONo matter how much time passes, no matter how many times are rights are threatened, there are still people who believe that if only we said the right things, if only we presented ourselves in such and such a way, if only we made the right concessions...................... the lefties would like us thenTE]

Not what im saying...im saying lets see if we cant help move everyone on to some other issue....geez
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Our best so far is Ted . He is a funny guy . I dont know who can replace him when the time comes. We should all be thankful in this day and age we have 2A defenders like his persona. They are hard to come by . He is that good. We love Ted and all those who defended our 2 A rights in the public arena.
 
SuperNaut: The problem with being your own mouthpiece is that nobody is listening to you. We have a First Amendment Right to speak but we cannot force people to listen. I know a lot of wannabe politicians who are very smart and understand the problems we face and how we should approach the solution,,,,,, unfortunately they are as dull as a brick when speaking. The message will never get out if delivered in a dull or monotonous style. I wrote a newspaper column for several years in a monthly Northern Colorado paper and the local lefties absoutely hated me, which I enjoyed as I figured I must be hitting them where it hurts to get such a reaction. I had far too many people come to me privately to support and thank me for my efforts but would never indicate their support in a public manner. We don't need any more of these Casper Milquetoast conservatives.....
 
Thats the good thing about the NRA, it has all kind s of people who have their own sets of beliefs. But the core principle is to cherish and defend our 2 A rights. We must dig in and fight , or else we will be overrun .

We fought against the former British tyrants of the past. We must now fight the new forms of tyrants aka gun grabbers . WHoever they may be, this is the new fight of this century. God help us.
 
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i think i wish that he would just be quiet so the other side can just move on to the next thing..i feel more comfortable when all is quiet on the gun front i guess (can we get the global warming crap started back up again?)..what thinks ye?
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Having been involved in this fight since the days when Lydon Johnson was president; I think that any thought that the leftist's are going to go away is wishful thinking, and frankly a bit stupid.

Gun control - to the point of elimination and confiscation, is a core position in their movement. They view "the people" not in terms of individuals, but rather as faceless "communitities" that are directed and controled by an all-powerful central government, all for they're own good of course. This position will never tolerate the idea of armed individuals.

As for Mr. Beck - Ben Franklin put it nicely when he said, "If we don't hang together we will likely be hung seperately." Our cause needs all of the support (meaning voters) that it can get. We need to convince people who don't own guns, and never intend to, that private ownership of arms is still in their best interest to protect other rights they do enjoy.
 
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SuperNaut: The problem with being your own mouthpiece is that nobody is listening to you.
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What are you talking about? Every letter I write, every call I make, every counter-opinion I make in the various online media is heard. Have you not been hearing about how all of the letters were influencing our representatives? The tallies are 10:1 ratio against any new gun laws, are these tallies from Glenn Beck's bloviations? No, they are from guys like you and me contacting their representatives.

That is power, it is working, and we are being heard.
 
We must continue to be vocal in our support of gun ownership. Hiding and hoping for the best has never worked. Beck and many others are much needed loud voices. We should always be out there voicing our desires and demands. Never, ever, be quiet!!!!!!
 
SuperNaut said:
Beck self-identifed as a radical to co-opt the radical message of Thomas Paine's Common Sense to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

Beck self-identified as a Tea Partier to co-opt the Tea Party to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

Beck is now self-identifying as a Libertarian so that he can co-opt it to fit an incompatible political philosophy.

On guns, Glenn Beck is not on our side, he is on Glenn Beck's side.

Our latest wins are due entirely to grassroots activism and having a "spokesperson" will dilute and diffuse that power thereby only weakening our movement. Glenn Beck is only attracted to our cause because it is something to be exploited.
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You're going to have to explain this. You make a lot of claims. I see no significant evidence that Beck is in this "fight" for Beck. Beck is a Morman. You may know something we don't.
 
As long as we have MSM "polls" stating that "90% of NRA members approve of UBCs, etc.," we need people who will stand tall and raise the BS flag.

Joe Sixpack (low-information voter, and there are lots of them out there) hears what the NYT/CBS/MSNBC poll says and thinks. "Gee, if 90% of gun owners agree, can't be all bad, right? Maybe Joe Biden is right after all."

We need the countering voices. The ones who speak the truth, and consequences be damned. They may get a bit strident at times.

I'm okay with that too. If you are one man trying who has the nerve to speak out against the din of thousands of marble-mouthed idiots, you will have to raise your voice a bit....:D
 
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You're going to have to explain this. You make a lot of claims. I see no significant evidence that Beck is in this "fight" for Beck. Beck is a Morman. You may know something we don't.
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Not much to explain, Glenn Beck pretends that he is philosophical kin to Thomas Paine. Anyone who has read Paine knows this is completely false.

Glenn was instrumental in bringing the Tea Party and the GOP together, this is no secret. I watched it happen, didn't you?

Glenn is now doing the same thing with Libertarianism, Glenn Beck is in no way a Libertarian. Not even close.

I am a Mormon too, but I fail to see what Glenn's religion has to do with him being an obvious tool of the establishment and means to divide and co-opt competitors of the GOP.
 
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