Do you feel that THR is over-moderated?

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Hmm... this is probably the one board where I've never felt it's ever been overmoderated. I remmber not too long ago, I had a sales listing on the for sale forum. Forgot to put my state which qualifies as a delete, but the mod who saw my thread was kind enough to look into my thread and edit a state into my title. The "delete" button would have been faster, but that mod (thank you which ever mod it was) let me keep my thread instead.

I like this forum.
 
I find it comfy

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Not really, IMO, as many threads get stale, or off track, and the locks are good for moving on to new business..


LS
 
Let me think...

In the last few days, I've personally deleted comments about "filthy mexicans", "wetbacks", "faggots", "homos", "dikes" and a couple different cases of posters calling each others names. Looking at what the other mods have dealt with in the last couple of days, they've deleted members calling each other things including "idiot", "moron", "faggot", "nazi", "fascist", "fascist wingnut", "*******", "*****", and others.

In the last week, we've dealt with people trying to entrap members to sell them illegal guns, straw men purchases, how to build bombs, how to build a machine gun, how to illegally import a gun, and other stuff. Those got deleted too.

In the last month we've banned big bunches of undercover stormfronter mullet nazis, trolls, and recidivists.

In that same time, we've allowed threads to run about topics that are guarenteed to turn into flamefests, in the vain hope that they would actually, maybe just this once, turn out okay, even though we've seen them crash and burn repeatedly. Ironically, the guy questioning our abilites has a giant red Ron Paul in his signature line. Those threads have been insanely heated, but we've managed to keep most of them open.

Some of your pet topics that you love to death? You think they're really important? Well, at that same time we're receiving complaint e-mails from twenty other posters about how annoying those threads are. We close them, we receive twenty other e-mails about how much we suck. Go figure.

Some topics get clamped down on, and you guys might just have to take a deep breath and look at it from our perspective. That topic might be your most favoritest topic in the entire world, but if the previous ten times we've had that same topic, it degenerated into a flame fest, name calling, or general stupidity that makes THR and gun owners in general look bad, we're gonna be tough. It isn't personal.

I've been a mod here since THR opened. In that time I've been called every name you can think of. In one 48 hour period, I was called a nazi, a fascist, a liberal, a neo-con, and a liberal, all for my actions, in the SAME THREAD. I'm still trying to figure that one out, since those things tend to be mutally exclusive.

If a mod clamps down on your topic, it might not be because of you personally. It might just be because some of the people on your side, are not exactly helping your cause. They may, in fact, be huge idiots, who are making THR and gun owners look stupid.

There are threads on here where I've been the bad guy, and clamped down on them hard, and tried to steer them in a direction that didn't make us look like mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, imbeciles, and these are threads where I AGREED WITH THE ORIGINAL POSTER!

We've had a bunch of nonsense lately about bashing some groups. You may love to bash that group. That may be your hobby. You may be the captain of the (fill in the blank) bashing squad.

But if we have other THR members who belong to that group, then we can't you bash them. Because then, when they want to bash your group, we would have to let them.

Some of you say that you're sick of the "if you don't like it, go to a different board" attitude.

Guess what? We're not trying to be mean. But at the end of the day, THR is one thing. It is Oleg's board, and we're going to steer it in his direction. We can't be all things to all people.

I'm being sincere when I say that there are a lot of other really good boards out there. I'm sure that one of them will fit your style and personality. We're not in this to win a popularity contest. We don't have ads, and we don't get more advertising money by how many times people click on this board. (in fact, it costs us more money, which is mostly paid by the mods, and donations from the general membership).

So if you want an unmoderated board, they're out there. If you want to discuss a topic that we don't discuss here, there is probably a board built for that.

But if you like the people at THR, and you want to discuss that topic with them, you're just going to have to trust us. We've been through this before. Believe me.

And just because you personally haven't seen a thread complaining about how we do stuff, just means you haven't been here much, or you aren't paying attention. We get these threads about once a week.

Then you'll say, but if you're getting so many complaints, you must be doing something wrong. Nope. We've got 10,000 active members. It is impossible to make all of them happy all of the time. That is just math. Any action we take will offend somebody on one side of that bell curve.

If you've got a specific problem, other than a general "the mods suck and r mean to me", send a PM to the mod in question. If you really hate that mod, then send a PM to Oleg. Believe it or not, we really do care about people's opinons.

And for the guy who's talking about being threatened with a banning... We don't like to ban people. In fact, I think we're often too damn nice. Normally when I see a member post something about how some mod "threatened" them, when I check the records (and yes, we do keep records of every warning) there was usually a pretty damn good reason.

Well, I hope that helps. Now I'll wait for the inevitable e-mails that tell me I'm a jack booted, cop-apologist, anarchist, fascist, liberal neo-con, baby seal clubber. :)
 
I find it very over-moderated. I do not seek comfort in discussions, I seek truth.
It was better a couple months ago. Now I see moderators getting an antagonistic last word in before locking a thread.

I don't post much here anymore.
 
Dunno...Wouldn't mind seein' a thread consisting of pics of naked women holding EBRs while seated on Harleys. Other than that, I think the mods here do a fine job.

Having bounced in rough bars for years, I know that there is a fine line between anarchy and acceptable uprorious debauchery.
THR mods have a nose for where that line lies.
Be grateful.

Biker:)
 
Biker wrote:

Dunno...Wouldn't mind seein' a thread consisting of pics of naked women holding EBRs while seated on Harleys.

Biker,

I think I saw one of those on the Saiga forum not too long ago. I have it bookmarked on my laptop. :)


Correia wrote:

I've been a mod here since THR opened. In that time I've been called every name you can think of.

Correia,

I was once called a Mississippi Goat-roper while living in NYC. Betcha never heard that one. LOL :)


-- John
 
From your post count, it's safe to say you never posted much here.

As far as being antagonistic, when you're closing the 1,313th SHTF thread (or whatever) started AFTER the mods asked the membership to cease and desist...it's hard to resist getting a bit snarky.

It's usually the same actors...the usual cast. It would probably just be easier to ban the lot but we don't like to ban. So we try to lead, to persuade. Oh, boy. It's a thankless task.

Herding cats is what it is.

As Ben Franklin said,"Neither a leader nor a follower be."
 
I would like to see more "high road" discussions

For all the reasons Correia mentioned, and many others, I would like to see people act a bit more high-road here.

Funny that this thread came up, because just the other night I started questioning the old "an armed society is a polite society" adage specifically due to threads I had been reading here. People certainly weren't acting polite.

Say what you will, but I do appreciate keeping things on track. And I also remember that this is someone else's playground, and they're nice enough to let me play here. I play by their rules. If I don't like their rules I am free to leave and form my own playground. That's how it works.

P.S. - I've been spanked for comments, and I don't disagree with the moderator's decision to do so.
 
Jerkface,

dunno.... I'm still trying to figure that one out, too. Oddly, I find it funny when I visualize someone attempting that.


-- John
 
As a member with a rocky start, I can say this is the only forum I participate in. THR was my first forum. I threw my hissy fit and started to go to other forums. After seeing what the others were like, THR is the only one I participate in.

Whining about the moderation here, is along the same lines of the people who move next to a range then bitch about the noise, or complain about whats on TV instead of changing the channel.

For those whose best argument is "it sucks" I will say this:It is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy. There are no walls or bars to keep you here. At the very least you are getting what you paid for, so, you are not out anything if you leave.
 
For a bunch of "jack booted, cop-apologist, anarchist, fascist, liberal neo-con, baby seal clubbers," the THR moderators do a pretty good job.
(Sorry, Correia, that was just too good to pass up.)

Seriously, given the S/N ratio inherent in a place like this, our moderators do a good job, and it shows. THR, with over 10,000 members, remains the best firearms forum on the web.
 
An earlier poster in this thread saiid that he hadn't seen an "Is THR over-moderated thread of the week yet." He must not get out much...

I see, and post on, about one per week (lately). And my responses are pretty predictable. :)

In my 2 1/2 years and 1150+ posts, I've never had a mod contact me, nor had a thread closed. I'd like to believe that is because my momma taught me how to mind my manners.

I try to speak my piece in a civil manner. Others can disagree and perhaps persuade me...in a civil manner. I also pm people when I believe that to be more appropriate. I have had some fairy heated debates via pm (even today), but for the most part, no harm, no foul. As it should be.

Calling people names, stomping your feet and throwing the F-bomb never changed anyone's mind.

It's adult subject matter, and the discussion is conducted in an adult manner.

I like it just fine here.

And yeah, if you don't like it here, the door swings both ways.

I was going to throw a :) in there, but on further reflection, I don't think that is appropriate. You may not defecate in the drinking water supply, regardless of your "feelings" or perceived First Amendment rights.

Have a nice day.
 
Not Hardly

After several years on another forum I moved to THR when they banished a poster who should have been kicked off of the other forum too but was not. Civil discourse is fast disappearing from the planet - I like that THR actually does what is claims to be and that is stick to the high road.

John
Charlotte, NC
 
This is redundant nonsense that I've seen resurface at least once a week.

THE SEARCH FEATURE IS YOUR FRIEND!
 
I think that this question is over-asked. I cannot be insulted or offended via the internet. Been playing with it too long. It wouldn't bug me if THR had no rules. But THR has a mission. SHTF topics and curse-ladden temper tantrum aren't a part of it.

THR would not be enriched by less moderation. Look at the ARF-COM boards. Sure, there is a lot of good information there. Somewhere in the middle of a crap sandwich.
 
This forum is very lightly moderated compared to forums such as AustrianPlasticPistolSpeak.com and mColtPistolBetween1910and912.org :neener:
 
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