Do you guys think this is a good deal?

[bhhacker]

I put an ad up on craiglist selling a motorcycle for 2000$. I said I was up for trades and someone offered me this...Assuming all of the guns are in working condition....is this a good deal?


SS ruger mini 14 with simmons 4-12x42 scope, Ruger 22/45 target pistol, Saiga 7.62x39 ak rifle, Ruger 10/22 bullpup stocked rifle, Hi Point 40 carbine, Romainian AK 47.

 

[nwilliams]

I wouldn't personally do it.

Most of those guns in the picture are relatively inexpensive to purchase. I think if you got $2k for your bike, you could put together a nicer collection than that.

JMHO

I'm sure someone will give you a rundown on what each of those guns in the picture is probably worth, I think the question is, do you want that collection of guns. If you really want them all then I say go for it. If there are some guns there you don't care for then I would pass it up, it just means you'll be stuck with guns you don't want and you'll have to find homes for them yourself.

Good luck!

 

[Father Knows Best]

Approximate used values, assuming very good to excellent condition:

SS ruger mini 14 with simmons 4-12x42 scope, $500
Ruger 22/45 target pistol, $250
Saiga 7.62x39 ak rifle, $200
Ruger 10/22 bullpup stocked rifle, $200
Hi Point 40 carbine, $100
Romainian AK 47, $200

Total: $1450. And that is MAX value. Unless you desperately wanted those particular models, don't do it.

 

[bhhacker]

Thanks for the heads up. The only one that caught my eye was that mini 14 really.

 

[trueblue1776]

Well, I would put it above $1450.

Depending upon the condition of the guns, it could be fair. I bet you could turn around and put a couple back on Craigslist and keep the ones you like.

Just mind the guy's personality, if you buy them. I'm always careful of picking up hot guns, especially in multiple trades.

 

[iamkris]

Nope, I was going to call the value of those guns at $1500 max...especially in used condition. Even if I'm off by 20 percent and asuming your bike is really worth $2K, that's a terrible deal

 

[jaholder1971]

NOPE.

I'd put the value of the used guns at closer to a Grand for around my area. Even at new price you're still below the $2K you want for the bike.

 

[elmerfudd]

Approximate used values, assuming very good to excellent condition:

SS ruger mini 14 with simmons 4-12x42 scope, $500
Ruger 22/45 target pistol, $250
Saiga 7.62x39 ak rifle, $200
Ruger 10/22 bullpup stocked rifle, $200
Hi Point 40 carbine, $100
Romainian AK 47, $200

Total: $1450. And that is MAX value. Unless you desperately wanted those particular models, don't do it.

I've got to disagree with that. The prices for the three Rugers are pretty much spot on, but you can get more than $100 for a Hipoint carbine and you can definately get more than $200 for the Romanian AK. Maybe $150 for the Hipoint, and $325+ for the AK if it's a SAR1. Even if it's a WASR, I wouldn't have any trouble selling it for $275. New ones with the folder go for around $350 around here and then you get charged about $30 in sales tax. Saiga's seem to be going for around $275 new, so I'd expect to get around $225 for a used one in good condition.

So that's got you up to the $1600-$1650 range.

 

[jpwilly]

I think at best theres $1700 sitting there of witch you only care for one of them the ruger mini 14...your call. Are the guns HOT?

 

[DMK]

SS ruger mini 14 with simmons 4-12x42 scope, $500
Ruger 22/45 target pistol, $250
Saiga 7.62x39 ak rifle, $200
Ruger 10/22 bullpup stocked rifle, $200
Hi Point 40 carbine, $100
Romainian AK 47, $200

I couldn't get any of those guns for those prices around here. You'd have to add $50-100 each

 

[Gator]

I think I could get those for about $1400 in my area. Pass.

 

[Father Knows Best]

I couldn't get any of those guns for those prices around here. You'd have to add $50-100 each

Asking prices are often $50-100 higher. What I posted are typical selling prices, which are less than asking prices. If you owned those guns and wanted to sell them, especially if you needed to sell somewhat quickly, the prices I listed are what you could expect to get.

 

[MIL-DOT]

yeah, as JPWILLY said, "are they hot"? could easily be a whole stolen batch. anyone colecting a load of guns like this is into the scene,and took a little time to do it. that they would want to dump this wide array on something totally unrelated like a bike, makes me extra suspicious.

 

[nwilliams]

Despite what those guns are worth individually based on where you guys live, perhaps another way to look at it would be this way....

Would you pay $2000 for that particular collection of guns? Even that collection was worth $2000 would you fork over that much for that particular collection?

Personally I would rather take that $2000 and buy something really nice or a couple of really nice things and maybe some ammo, as opposed to spending it on that particular collection of guns. Sometimes its quality as opposed to quantity that really matters. Look at what you can buy for $2K and decide based on that, don't go by what the overall collection is worth.

Just a thought...

 

[chemist308]

Weird that they're all semi-auto, higher capacity. If someone were dumping their collection for a bike, I'd expect to see a deer rifle or two, a shotgun or two, maybe a mini-14 and/or AK. So, the question that immediately came to my mind when I saw that rafle was 'are they dumping stuff that was used to perpetrate criminal activity?'...

 

[iamkris]

I'd expect to see a deer rifle or two, a shotgun or two,

...unless, ummmm, the guy doesn't hunt, maybe?

Nothing weird at all about a guy's collection being semi-auto, higher capacity (that's actually NORMAL capacity). Thoughts like that are the basis of many anti-gun arguements.

 

[DiN_BLiX]

Take cash, sure some of them are nice but none are considered rare. As said above, take cash and buy something really nice and have cash left over.

 

[Loanshark]

Seems like an easy decision to me... you said the mni was the only one that "caught your eye", ask him if he's interested in the bike @ $1500 and the mini14. If so what kind of groups does he get with it @ 50 or 100 yards and what is the serial #??

 

[elmerfudd]

Despite what those guns are worth individually based on where you guys live, perhaps another way to look at it would be this way....

Would you pay $2000 for that particular collection of guns? Even that collection was worth $2000 would you fork over that much for that particular collection?

Personally I would rather take that $2000 and buy something really nice or a couple of really nice things and maybe some ammo, as opposed to spending it on that particular collection of guns. Sometimes its quality as opposed to quantity that really matters. Look at what you can buy for $2K and decide based on that, don't go by what the overall collection is worth.

Personally, I'd want the cash too, but if he's considering the deal he ought to have an accurate idea of what the collection is worth. For me it wouldn't necessarily be a matter of wanting one nice piece instead of several cheaper ones, but rather just wanting to buy the guns that appeal to me rather than getting a collection that somebody else wanted. Rugers aren't my cup of tea and that goes double for "tactical" 10/22's.

 

[JimmerJammerMrK]

I wouldn't do it, especially if you need the cash from your motorcycle to pay for other things. Like others have said, you won't get your 2k by selling the guns.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

I agree that the guns are worth about $1500-$1700. And all of them are relatively inexpensive and most are not known for accuracy.

 

[toecutter]

While it seems like a compelling deal, that collection has "ghetto" written all over it. If you do decide to go with the guns, execute the transfer through a licensed FFL, while the downside is it creates a paper trail, the upside is it creates a paper trail in case someone comes looking for those guns. The deal doesn't sound too bad. I think where the real value may be found is accessories (magazines, ammo, cleaning kits. Just remember, some of those mags can be really pricy, especially the rugers)

 

[Ash]

Based on the furniture, I would think that is just a blue-collar kind of guy. Likes guns, but isn't real deep in his knowledge. Probably calls a magazine a clip and thinks The Matrix is a good source of knowledge for firearms handling. This is not an attack on blue-collar in the least because some white-collar guys are just as clueless (many much more clueless).

But based on the room in which the photograph is taken, I would guess this guy wants a motorcycle more than his guns. He may have more that he doesn't wish to part with, and if it were me, I would be trading off the high point and the bullpup out of my collection FIRST.

But, my mental pricing put the guns at $1500 and so it is a discount for you while giving the other guy top dollar. He'd need to offer $2000 retail for the deal to be considered.

Ash

 

[Ash]

The above said, I would certainly have those numbers run as part of the deal. They could stolen as many have said. They may not have been stolen by this guy, but by a guy he traded some speakers for them. I know because I have had fellows working for me before who did that. One guy really wanted my sks (back when they were 99 bucks). He wanted to trade a cd changer for it. I had extra SKS's and the changer was worth more than the rifle, so I said sure. He brought it over and I looked it over and was satisfied that it would work. I told him I was going to take it to Radio Shack to have them install it. That comment made him nervous. He finally confided that he could not be certain the changer was not stolen. No deal.

This is the same guy who asked me about a Smith & Wesson that had the serial numbers filed off. He wanted to know if he could have the numbers returned to the firearm.

Ash