Doctor to Run New Gun-Violence Research Center in California

[Aim1]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/doctor-to-run-new-gun-violence-research-center-in-california-1472667927

Doctor to Run New Gun-Violence Research Center in California

Garen Wintemute has been using his own money to fund efforts at the University of California, Davis

By ZUSHA ELINSON Aug. 31, 2016 2:25 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO—A new gun-violence research center in California will be led by a doctor and researcher who has been using his own money to fund gun-violence research at the University of California, Davis.

Dr. Wintemute said he has supported gun-control policies that his research has found to be effective—for example, restricting firearms access for people who abuse alcohol.

He said that his research isn’t biased. “Our research gets us in trouble with advocates on both sides of the issue, which generally tells me we’re doing the right thing,” he said. When an effort was under way to close the gun-show loophole by requiring more background checks, his research showed that such a policy change was “a waste of time.” he said.

On the other hand, Dr. Wintemute’s research on a 1990s California law that prohibited those convicted of violent misdemeanors from owning guns showed a benefit: Those who were denied a gun under the law were less likely to be arrested for a new violent or gun crime than those who had purchased guns before the law went into effect.

 

[JohnKSa]

Garen Wintemute has been using his own money to fund efforts at the University of California, Davis...

As it should be.

This, of course, gives the lie to claims that the government has banned medical researchers from studying gun violence. There's no ban. But they'll have to pay for it themselves rather than expecting the taxpayers foot the bill for their fishing expeditions.

 

[Aim1]

As it should be.

This, of course, gives the lie to claims that the government has banned medical researchers from studying gun violence. There's no ban. But they'll have to pay for it themselves rather than expecting the taxpayers foot the bill for their fishing expeditions.

From the article:

The state’s Democratic-controlled legislature set aside $5 million earlier this year to fund the center, which the school said is the first state-funded center of its kind in the country.

Gun rights’ groups in California were not pleased with the news. Arthur Przebinda, a spokesman for Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, said that Dr. Wintemute is not an impartial researcher, arguing his research focuses on looking at ways to restrict gun ownership.

“In effect, $5 million of taxes, a large portion paid by California gun owners, is going to fund advocacy that will disarm them,” said Dr. Przebinda.

 

[JohnKSa]

Should have clarified that I was talking about the federal government, federal funding, federal tax money.

States are free to do as they please with the tax money they take from their citizens.

 

[TimSr]

This is a common method of funding political agendas with taxpayer dollars by thinly disguising it as "science".

I assume that this "doctor" is a medical one, which begs the questions of exactly what is his professional expertise in this field of "research" beyond being a political activist, and why his "research" should be taken and more seriously than any other political campaign.

 

[G.E. Lee]

"
Dr. Wintemute said he has supported gun-control policies that his research has found to be effective—for example, restricting firearms access for people who abuse alcohol."

Hehehe, by that criterion General Grant would have had restricted access to firearms!

 

[Captain33036]

Gee, more research. Perhaps similar to this research:

The 2013 Inst of Medicine report commissioned by....OBAMA. That the media has conveniently forgotten, in their propaganda that gun VIOLENCE needs to be studied.

http://www.nationalacademies.org/hm...e-the-Threat-of-Firearm-Related-Violence.aspx

If you read past the govt propaganda, political correctness and social engineering BS, you can find a few facts (which most here have been aware of for some time):

Community level factors:
•High rates of poverty, illicit drug trafficking, substance use

Situational factors:
•Presence of drugs or alcohol
•Criminals engaging in violence to acquire money or goods

AND...buried deep within the report, that has to be read, information contained in no summary....that firearms are actually used some estimated 300,000 times in personal or home defense situations. A fact that is never stated by the anti's. Something they wish to ignore.

 

[Deanimator]

It's just another scam.

None of these things ever rise above the level of phrenology, Lysenkoism and Nazi racial "science".

 

[Acera]

Watch the hipsters go nuts if someone points out that smoking dope prohibits one from legally purchasing guns from a dealer.

Want to do make them wig out? Mandate that medical marijuana prescriptions must be sent to the FBI so they can deny approval on background checks for new gun purchases in those states that have that sort of thing.

This seems to be their attitude for many on the leftist coast...............
Smoking Pot=Good
Smoking Tobacco=Bad
Alcohol=Bad


Waiting for them to squeal when this becomes normal.




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[TRX]

> I assume that this "doctor" is a medical one

Any more, not necessarily a good assumption. Diploma-mill PhDs are so common nowadays you're far more likely to see one of them than a real MD.

The title thing has become an issue in the medical industry, where "diploma creep" means that some nursing staff and lab techs now hold doctorates in insist on being called "Doctor", which distresses the MDs...

 

[yokel]

AND...buried deep within the report, that has to be read, information contained in no summary....that firearms are actually used some estimated 300,000 times in personal or home defense situations. A fact that is never stated by the anti's. Something they wish to ignore.

The assaults on Second Amendment rights originate in profound uneasiness of leftists with self-governing people. In their paradigm, human beings are powerless atoms carried by the flow of historical determinism. Free people attempting to carve their own fate and countries of free people don’t fit the paradigm. They are sincerely believed to be aberrations that impede the progress of the society and need to be neutralized.

 

[hso]

someone points out that smoking dope prohibits one from legally purchasing guns from a dealer

That case was just decided in NV over a medical marijuana lawsuit denial for medical use violated the plaintiff's 2A right. The court decided the FFL was not required to sell because fed law did not permit an exception for medical use.

 

[Librarian]

Wintemute is indeed a medical doctor, UC Davis 1977

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/facultybio/search/faculty/242

 

[rubicon923]

Let's see. The two conclusions from the doctor's research are:

1. Alcohol and firearms don't mix
2. People not allowed to have firearms are less likely to commit gun crimes

I hope he didn't pay too much for this "research".

 

[CapnMac]

There was an economics paper not long ago which did a meta analysis on the published data on "gun violence." That analysis showed that CDC has known, through research, since the early 90s that gun control does not work as intended. That expense for "gun violence" are highest in the areas with the greatest restriction on ownership. Further, that further research will likely be flawed as a majority of "gun violence" occurs in less than 10 locations in the US, which means any conclusions cannot be distributed across the entire nation with any rectitude.

So, HIH & CDC do not bother funding any more research as they already know the outcome (it's rather like funding research on the Black Plague, going to be hard to learn anything new).

So, the antis look around and see "no research" on their hot-button topic and cry "We Need More Research!!" Our progressives keep calling for "more research" in the hopes that some one will gin up something, anything, which will support their views.

The mainstream newsies are also aware that if we took four cities in the US out of the stats, the US would have a "gun crime" rate lower than Australia's.

 

[Swing]

It's just another scam.

Pretty much. And one that will likely amount to whole lot of nothing.

 

[Zoogster]

This is beyond pathetic.

This is a guy that already was devoted to banning guns so much he was funding his own research to create reasons for banning them in an official capacity.



Now he is being handed around 5 million dollars to improve on it and get things they can use as fuel to ban more guns and prohibit larger percentages of the population.


These strategies are deceitful.

They will tie misuse to those that do otherwise minor things and then by conclusion try to associate the two behaviors together as who shouldn't have guns.
It looks like he is starting with alcohol.
They already got domestic violence, which can be really petty and include minor relationship issues that are nothing like the wife beatings on those after school specials.
They already got all felonies.

Eventually they will try to tie every flaw and vice to prohibition of gun ownership.
In fact even being into guns is a mental illness they want to be able to diagnose.

So now in California when you buy a gun you send money to this guy to figure out ways to ban your future ownership of firearms.

 

[Jason_W]

Watch the hipsters go nuts if someone points out that smoking dope prohibits one from legally purchasing guns from a dealer.

Want to do make them wig out? Mandate that medical marijuana prescriptions must be sent to the FBI so they can deny approval on background checks for new gun purchases in those states that have that sort of thing.

This seems to be their attitude for many on the leftist coast...............
Smoking Pot=Good
Smoking Tobacco=Bad
Alcohol=Bad

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I wouldn't say it's good, just that it's no worse than alcohol or tobacco. they're all vices and all vices have their negatives.

That said, it's never made much sense to me that it's perfectly legal for a 21+ adult to get dangerously blackout drunk in their own home but it's illegal for them to get stoned and eat too much pizza while watching cartoons for an evening.

 

[Zeke/PA]

These "Researchers" never own up to the fact that enough legislation is already in place to put the violent nutcases in jail for a good while.
This "doctor" should try to find out exactly why this strict legislation is ineffective against violent crime.

 

[Haxby]

They should study the heck out of this.
California gun owners, the NRA, and the NSSF should kick in a million dollars to help with the study. Plus, the pro gun groups should pay the salaries of a couple additional, professional, neutral researchers to be members of the team.
When the study is done, share all the data. Every time the group has anything to say, share the data. Make it available to everyone. Force everybody on all sides of the issue to deal with real facts and hard numbers.

 

[jimeast]

Gun Research: CDC

My understanding is that the CDC has been denied Government funding for research because the head or leadership of the CDC team is openly anti-gun, so results would be assumed tainted.

 

[CapnMac]

CDC has been denied Government funding

CDC is the Government.

And CDC has been denied nothing; what has happened is that they've not bothered to fund any research because they already know what the results will be.
Which makes the antis crazy, as they are convinced that any 'real' research would show that they are right.

So, the antis push push push for research that will agree with their knee-jerk emotional reaction. And, of course science is about method, repeatability, and a lack of emotion. So the antis are urinating up a rope and being surprised it's raining.

 

[hso]

The CDC has not touched firearm research since 1996 when the NRA, SAF and pro2A politicians accused the head of the agency of promoting gun control as an agenda and Congress threatened to strip the agency’s funding. Bugetary items for the research don't get through Congress. The CDC’s self-imposed ban has essentially continued due to funding being blocked in Congress in spite of the 2013 POTUS EO directing them to perform research. With little real interest in getting entangled in the clear political controversy and no dedicated funding for it CDC isn't likely to do much that would prove our point any more than the antis'.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SUBJECT: Engaging in Public Health Research on the Causes and Prevention of Gun Violence
In addition to being a law enforcement challenge, gun violence is also a serious public health issue that affects thousands of individuals, families, and communities across the Nation.Each year in the United States there are approximately 30,000 firearm-related deaths, and approximately 11,000 of those deaths result from homicides. Addressing this critical issue requires a comprehensive, multifaceted approach.Recent research suggests that, in developing such an approach,a broader public health perspective is imperative. Significant strides can be made by assessing the causes of gun violence and the successful efforts in place for preventing the misuse of firearms. Taking these steps will improve our understanding of the gun violence epidemic and will aid in the continued development of gun violence prevention strategies.Therefore, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:
Section 1. Research. The Secretary of Health and Human Services (Secretary), through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other scientific agencies within the Department of Health and Human Services, shall conduct or sponsor research into the causes of gun violence and the ways to prevent it. The Secretary shall begin by identifying the most pressing research questions with the greatest potential public health impact, and by assessing existing public health interventions being implemented across the Nation to prevent gun violence.
Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary,administrative, or legislative proposals. 2(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not,create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural,enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 3. Publication. You are hereby authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register .

 

[mdauben]

CDC isAnd CDC has been denied nothing; what has happened is that they've not bothered to fund any research because they already know what the results will be.

That's actually not true. Congress passed an Republican amendment in 1996 with the language that the CDC will be barred from any research that will “advocate or promote gun control".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment_(1996)?wprov=sfla1

This was the result of a blatantly flawed and biased "study" produced by the CDC to push the gun control agenda.


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