I got the Romeo 5 as an entry level option but to me the dot looks more like a grape vine than a pinprick, it's not so crazy that it's basically useless but it's like I have a diagonal line for a reticle that is hard to find the true aim point on. Are there other red dots I can try that would be friendly to my condition or should I just return to A2? I don't know if a holo like an EOtech would be any different.
Does astigmatism mean it's irons or bust?
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Atavar
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I would talk to your optometrist for solutions.
CoalCrackerAl
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My son has astigmatism. He cant use red dot sights. Irons and scopes he's fine with.
shoobe01
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Try more sights. Ask people at the range, go the gun store, etc. Try better ones (Aimpoint, Trijicon, Steiner, Meprolight, etc.)
I have astigmatism plus several other issues. Bad enough eyes I coudn't use irons almost at all anymore, but have several RDSs that work for me. Others, not so much. Blurs and starbursts, and commas and stuff, hard to use well.
I have astigmatism plus several other issues. Bad enough eyes I coudn't use irons almost at all anymore, but have several RDSs that work for me. Others, not so much. Blurs and starbursts, and commas and stuff, hard to use well.
Take your corrected vision glasses off.
The dot is designed to appear clearly at the distance of the target.
Looking at the dot with your reading or progressive lenses and you will see a fuzz ball, smudge or blur.
Glasses with your distance correction will be optimal.
jmo,
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The dot is designed to appear clearly at the distance of the target.
Looking at the dot with your reading or progressive lenses and you will see a fuzz ball, smudge or blur.
Glasses with your distance correction will be optimal.
jmo,
.
twofewscrews
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I grabbed a TRS-25 and found out I had an astigmatism. Did a little research and grabbed a prism optic. I got the Primary Arms SLx 1x MicroPrism and its crisp and clear. I've also been told that a green dot might work better then a red dot depending on your eyes but I went straight to a prism and haven't looked back.
I find that green reticles work better with my astigmatism. Every red reticle I have used no matter how expensive or which brand always blooms more for me. Remember that everyone's eyes are different so what works for one might not work for others. And if dot type optics don't work, then look into the small prism optics instead.
One thing to remember with any dot style optic is to keep the brightness level turned down so that the dot is still usable but not too bright, The higher the brightness level, the more bloom one will see.
I suggest trying different dot sights to see what works best for you.
One thing to remember with any dot style optic is to keep the brightness level turned down so that the dot is still usable but not too bright, The higher the brightness level, the more bloom one will see.
I suggest trying different dot sights to see what works best for you.
Atavar
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There must be some optometrists and optical engineers here that can shed some light on this topic.
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Ohen Cepel
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See All could be an option. No batteries and not very $$.
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THIS^
Romeo5 vs. Vortex Spitfire Prism=no comparison.
Spitfire even works without batteries because it’s etched. Looking to get a couple more.
marvin02
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Good discussion of red dots vs prism scopes:
With red dots lower intensity and smaller dots sometimes help.
A friend with astigmatism likes the Chevron reticle in the Holosun 507c-gr acss. He also prefers green to red.
With red dots lower intensity and smaller dots sometimes help.
A friend with astigmatism likes the Chevron reticle in the Holosun 507c-gr acss. He also prefers green to red.
Have a look at The Primary Arms SLX1 microprism. I have them on a couple of sub guns. They use an etched reticle and it is super crisp. I love them. I use red dots on pistols without problem but on a rifle or sub gun they get in reading glass range and I get a small tail on the dot. I can still use them but prefer not to. I have retired my Romeo 5s thanks to the SLX1. They Also do an SLX3 microprism with a 3X magnification.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary...th-red-illuminated-acss-cyclops-gen-2-reticle
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary...th-red-illuminated-acss-cyclops-gen-2-reticle
Astigmatism eyes here,my optometrist has corrected it a much as possible. Red dots are hopeless for me unless it is a prism type and has the prism dot and ring reticle. With a green dot,the definition becomes quite acceptable. What works best for me are close to the eye aperture sights on rifles
Buzznrose
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Another fan of green dots. I have lots of red but found out green have less starburst than red for me.
Never tried a prism…
Never tried a prism…
marvin02
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Here is a Primary Arms prism scope with 2.5 magnification for $100:
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary...scope-with-patented-cqb-acss-reticle-pac2-5x?
This Swampfox Blade is 1x and works quite well:
https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/blade-1x25-prism
I had the Swampfox and it is nice, but even 1x prisms have an eyebox you have to be in. I prefer red/green dots because you don't have to worry about eye relief.
The prism scopes are much better for those with astigmatism.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary...scope-with-patented-cqb-acss-reticle-pac2-5x?
This Swampfox Blade is 1x and works quite well:
https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/blade-1x25-prism
I had the Swampfox and it is nice, but even 1x prisms have an eyebox you have to be in. I prefer red/green dots because you don't have to worry about eye relief.
The prism scopes are much better for those with astigmatism.
PistoleroWadcutterGANG
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Prismatic optics really helped me and my really bad astigmatism. This sounds wrong but it helped keep the "iron sight" quick acquisition feel and a barebones reticle that is not crowded. Mind you my hunting / shooting distances these days are limited to short / medium. (25 to 300- yards) Keeps the weight down and still allows a great "Aim" at lever rifle ranges. About all I do anymore.
chicharrones
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In my experience, a new set of prescription progressive glasses turned my non-prismatic red dots back into circular dots. Not saying that will work for everyone, so prism dots with an focus adjustable eye piece certainly are a way to go.
hoardingthemanual
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I have slight astigmatism. It's especially pronounced in low light with contacts. That said, I'm starting to leave red dots behind and experiment with prism scopes.
I have just enough of an eye problem that my red dots are not round and do not have clear, sharp edges. I bought a cheap Bushnell sight that has both red and green and both dots and cross hair. Those cross hairs are sharp and clear in both red and green and the green dot is good. I will be looking for a green cross hair if I buy another sight.
entropy
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As an Optician and life long astigmatic glasses wearer, I've found green dots are better than red, circle/dot or chevrons in green better than dots, and illuminated etched reticles better than either. If you choose to stay with a red dot, as mentioned before, turn it down to the lowest you can in the most light you expect to shoot in.
Stop looking through your add power area in the progressive lenses, and then you will be using the distance vision area of your glasses.
Stop looking through your add power area in the progressive lenses, and then you will be using the distance vision area of your glasses.
Chevron reticles are useless to me with my eye sight but they might work well for others. I can say that circle dot reticles definitely have less bloom for me no matter the reticle color. Again everyone's eyes are different, green works better for me but red might work better for others.
Keep the brightness level turned down as much as possible while keeping the dot usable helps with the bloom. And if a dot sight doesn't work then definitely look at one of the small light weight prism scopes that are available.
Keep the brightness level turned down as much as possible while keeping the dot usable helps with the bloom. And if a dot sight doesn't work then definitely look at one of the small light weight prism scopes that are available.
earlthegoat2
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I have problems with red dots. Green works better but I still have blurring and blob problems.
Fiber optic illuminated reticles like ACOGs, Meprolight, Trijicon reflex, or the RMR dual illuminated work great as far as the aiming point is concerned. They all come in green as wel. Some of these have their own other problems though such as the extreme cost of the ACOG or the tint through the viewing window of the RMR.
Holographic sights work well too. Particularly, Eotechs. Those are huge sized though.
My compromise has been Holosun. Namely, the he 510 and 507 series. They are not holographic and since Holosun makes a few holographics sights it is worth noting this. They come in green which does help me. They also come with a variable reticle which can be just the dot or a circle and dot. I find the circle dot aims better for me.
Fiber optic illuminated reticles like ACOGs, Meprolight, Trijicon reflex, or the RMR dual illuminated work great as far as the aiming point is concerned. They all come in green as wel. Some of these have their own other problems though such as the extreme cost of the ACOG or the tint through the viewing window of the RMR.
Holographic sights work well too. Particularly, Eotechs. Those are huge sized though.
My compromise has been Holosun. Namely, the he 510 and 507 series. They are not holographic and since Holosun makes a few holographics sights it is worth noting this. They come in green which does help me. They also come with a variable reticle which can be just the dot or a circle and dot. I find the circle dot aims better for me.
Hugger-4641
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I must have a really wierd astigmatism. Red dots are no problem for me, but Iron buck horn sights are getting hard for me to use as the front sight pin is more of a fuzzy clover than a round dot.
entropy
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That may not be astigmatism, that's probably presbyopia. If you already wear progressive lenses, it could be a sign you that you might want to schedule an exam.
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