Does this offend anyone else?

[lissell]

So i turned 21 on the 25th, and like all newly minted adults wanted to go out and to all the things i couldnt do the day before. So my friends and i decided to go shooting, and im buying the ammo.

We went out to GI-Joes and spend 15 minutes waiting for a counter guy to hand me three boxes of 9mm and to get a "whats that?" when i asked if they carried any 9X18 makarov. Not a good start. So the guy just handed over the ammo, no questions asked and wasted a bit of my time telling me they could special order it if i called and talked to the right guy.

I go up to the counter, the kid manning it scans everything takes my card and off we go! Now, i know there are laws in this country and laws in the state of Oregon, and im pretty sure that the same law saying i cant purchase a handgun until im 21 also says i can buy ammo for it. Not once was my id checked, no one even bothered to see if i was old enough. And yet the dozens of times i have gone in to get .22 ammo i got carded, to see if i was 18.

I personally find it a little silly that we are as draconian as we are about handgun verses riffel(sp) ammo and yet a cant help but thinking, there is a reason we card for ammo. What just happened to me is what happened in loveland Colorado a few years ago, and maybe if the cashier had carded we wouldnt have a memorial there now.

-lissell(venting at the expense of everyone elses time.)

 

[Bill Hook]

What just happened to me is what happened in loveland Colorado a few years ago, and maybe if the cashier had carded we wouldnt have a memorial there now.

Doubtful. They didn't need ID to make bombs. They'd have just gotten their 21+ year old friends to buy it for them, same as the vast majority of teenage drinkers do w/ alcohol.

 

[Peetmoss]

If your old enough to get issued an M16 and some desert cammies your old enough to buy whatever you choose weather it be handgun ammo or beer IMNSHO.

 

[444]

Of course it offends me.
Not that it matters since I am almost twice as old as I need to be to buy handgun ammo.
What I enjoy is the crap at Wal Mart where the cash register prompts the clerk, I mean associate, to ask you if the ammo is for a handgun. They don't know why they are asking the question and it doesn't matter what your answer is.

 

[mec]

for a while after gca '68, they had to keep comprehensive records of sales of handgun ammunition. The list of handgun ammunition grew as TC chambered more and more Contenders for rifle cartridges. Of coursel, rimfires were shootable in long or short guns so K Mart and such would ask if it were for a rifle or pistol.

the record keeping requirement was finally dropped when it became apparent that it was not going to reduce sales of handgun ammunition and after it became so cumbersome that even the gun bureaucracy couldn't stand it any more.

What you are seeing at Wally-World is probably just a remnant of the previous practice

 

[444]

Maybe I am not up on the current laws but I always thought the reason you were asked this question at Wal Mart was because you had to be 21 to buy handgun ammo and 18 to buy rifle ammo. So, they ask you if the ammo is going to be fired from a handgun and if you were under 21 you wouldn't be allowed to purchase it.
I may be totally off base here.

The thing is that many of the clerks don't know why the question is asked and ask everyone. I buy a box of ammo, and I am 41 years old; it doesn't matter if it is for a rifle or pistol, yet they ask it anyway.

Of course it may be some sinister plot to determine the number of handguns in the US for confiscation.

 

[Denver]

I don't think "offended" may be quite the right word. Incredulous, bewildered, astounded, aggravated, irritated, perplexed....

Like an inmate at the assylum, who has gotten off his meds only to find that he's actually SANE, banging on the bars and yelling at the guards that you are wrongfully incarcerated is probably not the right approach. Going about daily business as if nothing has changed while helping other prisoners wake up and get off their meds is more likely a better method. (Assuming they are also sane! The only way to find out is to seperate them from their drugs.)

Carrying a FOID card in the State of Illinois...patiently enduring the dopey counterperson..."Obeying" all the unconstitutional firearms laws...enduring knee-jerk, emotional soccer-mom types...

All of these are necessary camoflage for the person who is "Awake".

Yes, our world is far from perfect, right now, but don't let it make you weary. Be polite, be patient, be strong and press on through the fog that surrounds us for the time being!

Take an "anti" with you to the shooting range next time you go! That's one of the best ways to help them come down off their drugs or determine that they are indeed insane! It will be one or the other!

 

[Spot77]

Associate: "Handgun or rifle"

Me: "Breakfast."

 

[ny32182]

Yes, you will find that the second you turn 21, you are automatically not carded for anything.

I buy 9mm at Walmart all the time. Never once have I been carded.

 

[Tamara]

What just happened to me is what happened in loveland Colorado a few years ago, and maybe if the cashier had carded we wouldnt have a memorial there now.

Maybe if a teacher or two had a CCW, we wouldn't have a memorial there now, and we wouldn't have had to pee on anyone's Constitutional rights to avoid building it.

 

[444]

"you will find that the second you turn 21, you are automatically not carded for anything."

I have been carded for Copenhagen and beer several times in the last year.
I am 41 years old.

 

[winstonsmith]

Incredulous, bewildered, astounded, aggravated, irritated, perplexed....

the word is frustrating.

I sympathize. I have yet to cross the 18 year old line, so I know what it is to be too young to do something. I completely agree with the poster who said that if you're old enough to fight and die for the country, then you're old enough to have brew with your buds or own a handgun.

 

[Oleg Volk]

I thought the proper answer was "submachine gun"

 

[c_yeager]

I still get carded for cigarrettes but, when i started regularly buying ammo the day a turned 21 i have yet to get carded on an ammunition purchase.

 

[Leatherneck]

Believe me, guys, you'll remember clearly, and look back at fondly, the final time you get carded...

Mine was back when I was 49. I almost kissed her.

TC
TFL Survivor

 

[Steve Smith]

No, I consider it more correct for you to not be checked. You should not have had to wait for your 21st birthday anyway. That is unconstitutional seven ways from Sunday. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed.


I DO consider your statement:

What just happened to me is what happened in loveland Colorado a few years ago, and maybe if the cashier had carded we wouldnt have a memorial there now

very offensive.

 

[zahc]

I waited and waited till I turned 18, the day I did i went to walmart to buy bulk .22's (5000rods worth) and didn't even get carded. I should have started buying there earlier I guess. Only three more years till I can have the privilege to operate a handgun, yay.

 

[Don Galt]

How about:

"Oh, no, they are for the quad, peddle driven, gatling type, anti-aircraft cannons on my tank. They sure do eat up a lot of this here 22LR!"

 

[gunsmith]

my uncle gave me a machine gun at 17yrs old

UNCLE SAM!
THRU THE HILL,NOT OVER THE HILL TRAINEE!

 

[Carlos Cabeza]

I waited and waited till I turned 18, the day I did i went to walmart to buy bulk .22's (5000rods worth) and didn't even get carded.

Oh My god !!!!!!!!! What were you going to do with 5K rounds of .22 LR ???? PLINKING !!!!!! Oh the horror !!!!

 

[GigaBuist]

I've had a slightly similar experience...

I didn't take shooting back up until I was a hair past 21... didn't even know I'm not supposed to be buying ammo for a handgun unless I'm 21 truth be told. Never was a problem though...

About year later I get carded at the local hunting superstore for 9mm and .45 ammo -- I hand over my ID and the cashier informs me that she's sorry, but she cannot sell me this because I'm not 21.

I stare blankly at her for a bit...

"Well, I'm 22 -- is that close enough?"

Cripes... if you're going to check ID at least get people who can do math doing it.

 

[Tamara]

Don Galt,

"Oh, no, they are for the quad, peddle driven, gatling type, anti-aircraft cannons on my tank. They sure do eat up a lot of this here 22LR!"

'tain't a joke. When I was 19, I was buying .22LR for my twin-barrelled, crank-fired, tripod-mounted .22LR weapons system. Took me and my friends all Friday night to load enough 30- and 50-round mags to give us an hour's shooting on Saturday out at the old quarry on Blackjack Mountain. (An hour was about all you could get until someone called the cops and you had to split... )

 

[Denver]

Mec, you said the paperwork for registering handgun AMMO became too cumbersome...

That's why I buy as many guns as keeping a roof over my head will allow:

If all 80 million of us just bought a gun a month... a week... or transfer every one of our guns every day for a while from buddy to buddy... 'Think we could shut them down?

Hmmm...

 

[JimJD]

The "Handgun or Rifle" question was aksed of me this past week when I purchased a 550 rd. box of .22's at wal*mart.
I almost answered: " You mean , I can use these in a gun and I don't have to use a hammer anymore?!"
Back in NYC I would have had to produce a license, give DNA, do the hokey-pokey, and have had mars in alignment with saturn to buy that ammo...

 

[FNHP35]

Did the same thing, didn't know it was a bad idea... bought some ammo.... .45 Federal Hyrda-shoks... Wal*mart. No one bothered me in the least, I think I was 19. Anyway, no one cards me anymore for ammo. Sometimes I even take my ID out to see if they think to check it, but no, they never seem to. Though, once some friends and I got carded for buing some 22 ammo and shotgun shells in Wyoming (we were there visiting some friends). Lady gave me a hard time because I didn't have ID.... so I just gave it to my friend who had just turned 18 the day before. She told us in the sternest voice she could give "It's illegal to provide ammo to minors, so you better not be giving it to him". Both of us were just... shocked, and laughed about it in the car. Lady was pathetic... but anyway, we had fun shooting on some BLM land... it was great.

Andrew