Draven Industries Fingerblade....preview for the THR crew.

[Eric Draven]

Well guyz and gals...

I decided to try something odd and different...And now that my US copyright paperwork on it came thru, I feel ok to post it. Its a knife based off an older Persian style design...its a small fingerblade...only one in existence so far but I am doung a run of about 10. If anyone wants one email or PM me. I think I'lll make them out of D2 or S30V...3/16" steel and they'll be razor sharp, just like the proto. Kydex and all.

Let me know what you guyz think of it...these pics were before I cleaned it up more.











Anyways....opinions??

 

[nalioth]

Very nice.

 

[Mark K. C.]

That is amazing. Very sneaky. Are the holes in it so you could link a few of them together?

 

[MikeJackmin]

Would it be possible to adjust the angle of the ring to the blade so that more of your finger would naturally lay against the spine of the blade?

Maybe make a threaded connection between the tang and the ring, so that different ring sizes and blade styles could be interchanged?

 

[Claude Clay]

MikeJ----you posted just right. as is, there are 2 points of contact knife/finger. by reshaping (perhaps coming right off of the ring rather than down and than the bend to the blade) the stress on the finger would be spread evenly over more area translating into more cutting force and less stress on the finger.
10 out of 10 for idea. last i knew, in CT a blade must be over 1 1/2 and under 4 inches and can not be triangular. legal aside though, i want one.

 

[mike6975]

if one could have one on every finger it would be the ultimate cat claw and a "RAKING" type action,i like everyones idea aout takin the stress factor off the fingers too.also lookin at a cats paw (i have one)would be a great help too,to get the curveture right i think fellas.


mike

 

[Mongrel]

Eric, while I admire your initiative, I have to warn you that your creation (as rendered) would make a great finger-breaker\skinner.

As hinted at, there is just too little support for one thin bone to bear if this is used in a violent confrontation.

A secondary and ghastly concern is the stripping of flesh from the finger (ala the wedding band skinner effect) if the ring area is not significantly enlarged and rounded over. This could happen very easily if the 'hook' got hung up in something like clothing or even flesh and your 'implement' was pulled off of the hand.

Sorry, but I'd recommend rethinking this one.

 

[mike6975]

agreed,but there could be a way to lighten or protect the skin&bone from this,taping the finger(s)would be a quick&dirty way to solve this.anyone else have any input


mike

 

[Blofeld]

I recall a movie, can't remember the name, dealt with the Border Patrol. Anyway, a bad guy had a ring he would slip on with a blade embedded in it. It was wide, seemed to cover his middle finger from knuckle to the first joint, and he employed a slapping- raking technique. Thing was, seemed like it wouldn't impede grappling, though making a fist was out of the question.

 

[CWL]

Tiger Claw huh? Nice! I've only seen them in old sword books.

It'd be nice for wear on the weak hand for tapping, trapping surprises.

I think that all you need to do is slip the knife to one side and that should allow you to close your fist. Is this correct?

 

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

How much?

 

[Eric Draven]

Thanx for the kind words fellas...I appreicate it. Not everyone is going to agree with an idea like this one,or like it...and thats ok. We cant all agree on everything. However, James Keating really liked the idea, and Mark Davies, One of his instructors, bought the prototype. So I guess this is one of those Ideas meant for someone with alot of martial experience. Alot of great ideas guyz. Thanx.

MikeJ- Yes youre right, this is the only the proto, I have plans for a few other things that ride the lines you were speaking of. The reason I angled the blade that way is so when its all the way on youre finger, you can press on the blade with the pad of your finger and it braces the whole setup. I did some cutting into some cardboard and if it was braced,it didnt ride up at all,no pain. I do however have plans for a bar of some sort that will ride along the bottom,like right above the ring, that will brace it against the index and ring finger. As for different ring sizes, I will make them whatever size anyone orders. Youre very well thought out bro. Good ideas.

Mongrel- I understand where youre coming from and I do appreciate your kind word. I know by now that my designs and innovations wont be liked by everyone and if we take almost any knife or weapon on earth we can find flaw with any of them. Not a problem, its still a proto. As long as I can please a few people, and do soemthing different, I'm happy.

Mike6975- Youre right, taping would work,Ive also played with wrapping the ring with 550cord. Both are options. Good idea bro.

CWL- Yes, similar to one. I have seen the older 4blade ones from India...theyre really cool. Angles are relative, the reason why I angled it that way is on my response to MikeJ. I do agree with you, the older Tiger Claws are a good source to look at. And your are rigth 2 times, if you slip it to one side, you can indeed close your fist, and slash with it or punch...you can even slide it around the back of your finger and grapple. Or grapple with it still in position. Good eye.

Glockkenboomer- $150 (comes with Kydex sheath) email me if you want details: [email protected]

Again, thanx for the kind words fellas. I do understand everyones points of view and as I said previously, you cant please everyone. There will be some slight alterations made to this design, still a work in progress. Thanx for looking, any more posts or opinions are welcome.

 

[loandr.]

Congrats.....

On the Copyright sir! I have always LUVED my "twine cutter", hence your design looks interesting as well. Nice to see Eric, Thanks for sharing sir How is Side to Side play when used, I like the ability to index yours with finger for stability!

LD

 

[Rokyudai]

Now THAT is one handshake I could do without! I like it Eric. I agree that it could have some hard form applications. I recall a few kama kata that this design could work with.

Woah... new name.... finger kamas! Eric, it's yours for the taking!

Good job!

 

[Valkman]

A backscratcher! Yea!

Nice job and congrats!

 

[Eric Draven]

Hey loandr...good to see you too bud. Side to side play is minimal in my testing, but we'll have to see what Mark Davies says from his testing. I also saw that I could brace it further with my index and ring fingers preventing side to side play if I wanted to.

Rokyudai- Ya, I wouldnt like that Handshake either....ouch. Thanx for the kind words. Ya bro, I really like that name...I had named it the "Viper Strike" after the missile of the same name cuz it kinda looks like a snake about to strike. But I think I could call it the "Viper Strike Finger Kama" or "VSFK" for short. Thanx bro. Good looking out.

Don...LMAO!! Youre so funny.

 

[Aka Zero]

Looks like it could end badly if used hard.....

Can you design something in the HAK realm next?

 

[Eric Draven]

aka Zero...Maybe youre right, its definetly not a knife/idea thats for everyone. I'll post what Mark Davies has to say after he plays with it.

I could, but I dont think copying the HAK crew is a good idea. They kinda have the market cornered on 2finger capsule knives. I would need permission from them.

 

[Dr. Snubnose]

Two things 1) I like the name as I can see the snake ready to strike thingy...2) I have small hands, and the first thing I though of was to reverse the hold on that little viper....I'd stick my finger thru the ring and let my palm support the spine....this would make it real concealable... I would use it in combination with all sorts of open hand/palm techniques...I could also use it like a sorta palm k-bit....I would not want to be on the receiving end of this Viper used this way...You catch my drift?....Doc

 

[Eric Draven]

Heck ya Doc...not a bad idea at all!! I like the way you think brother. I thihjk we need to do some of your infamous MEAT cutting tests soon with this and the S.I.F.U. proto I am making for you.

 

[hangtime]

just a thought. . . . .

what about a a ring that allowed for limited movement. Say, something like a pivoting arrangement that would let the whole thing flex maybe 30 degrees or so. Might increase the usefulness without seriously endangering the user.

 

[Aka Zero]

I could draw you up some designs, free of charge if I got one in the end. Hak like, but beyond the copyrighted designs.

I am slowly acquiring knife making supplies, but lack the time and facilities to take on any real projects.

And seeing your designs so far, you are not afraid of trying new things.

 

[Fat_46]

So am I the only whose first thought, upon seeing the picture Mr. Draven posted, was "Whoah - that looks like the ticket for gutting a deer".

Nice design/neat idea

 

[Eric Draven]

hangtime: Youre right, that might not be a bad idea at all...I may be able to set up a hinge of sorts and allow it to flex, or do a differential HT so the neck was springy and the blade was Hardened. Good idea.

AKA-Zero: Sure thing, I'm always open to new ideas. If you wanna draw up some stuff, PM them to me.
When you begin Knifemaking, let me know, I will PM you my 24hr. phone number so you can call if you need help with anything.

Fat46: Yeah, I guess it would be good for deer wouldnt it. Hmmm...

 

[Aka Zero]

Ideas sent.

And if I ever get a few tools, I will take you up on that.