Dumbest Reloading Mistakes?

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Me? Dumbest (sorry no blood) has to be trimming brass with a cordless screwdriver-powered Lee case trimmer.

First pass through a new bag of Winchester brass and things looked dandy. Really easy. Retrimming a few of my just trimmed cases removed a bit more brass so I figured I wasn't done yet. I wanted them EXACTLY the right length, I'm just that kind of person, and this Lee trimmer was SO SIMPLE. It has a built-in length gage.

So I trimmed them all a second time, and a third just for good measure. But after "trimming" them all a third time brass was STILL coming off. So I grabbed the calipers and measured - now they were all 0.02" TOO SHORT! :eek:

Lee CS told me that the "tips" of these things are no longer hardened (despite what the package says) and that I was just applying "too much pressure" while "trimming". The length gage was getting shorter with each use.

Lee replaced the tool. My $20 bag of brass went to the scrapper.
 
Not really a reloading story, but closely related.

When I was 16 or 17 a buddy and I bought a can of FFG black powder. We made a couple of firecrackers and other experiments, then we decided to dispose of the remainder of the can. We had seen all the Hollywood cowboy movies with the trail of powder being used as a fuse, and decided that was a great way to touch off what must have been 3/4 lb.

So we made a "fuse" trail about 12" long and poured the rest into a big pile. I squatted down and lit the trail with a book of matches. The whole thing burned so fast that I was still squatting there when it flashed. It went off like lightening hit, womp! So there I was, squatting in front of a big black spot in my driveway, hand still extended with a charred match, short pants on, and every bit of hair burned off my shins, arm, and face, including eyebrows.

I must have looked like something out of an Our Gang comedy. And my buddy who had chosen to stand a safe distance away was rolling on the ground laughing.
 
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Sir i would have paid to see you standing there in front of said giant black spot. I for one am glad you are ok.
 
Many mistakes in life! In reloading---the little stuff a primer or two in backwards, wrong die and size in the bullet instead of seating it, trim too much off the brass and so on. Nothing stands out but the time I got a deal on brass and ended up with a 5 GAL bucket 7.62X51 that was 3/4 damaged beyond use/ other brass. Should have looked more closely at it before buying. It was an estate sale and the heir did not know that it was the scrap bucket and finished filling it with more brass of the type that was on top.:banghead: Still would not refund money however when contacted at a later date.:cuss:
 
Sir i would have paid to see you standing there in front of said giant black spot. I for one am glad you are ok.

That was way back when teens could walk into a gun store and buy anything, so of course it was pre-internet video. Probably missed my only chance to become a millionaire. The Kernel hit the nail on the head with the cartoon above.
 
sorry rf, but I too would've paid to see it. :D

I guess that's a sign of respect when other would pay to see your mistakes. :neener:
 
I would say that I lucked out when my friend, new to handgun shooting, was firing my hand loads through my Kimber Gold Match .45. I was busy loading mags and not paying attention when he had a jam. I cleared the gun, inserted another mag, and dropped the slide....another jam. I thought perhaps my reloads were not sized properly and were not fitting in the chamber, so I put the gun away. When I got home and went to clean it, I realized that there was a squib load in the barrel, preventing the next round from chambering. Had that bullet been 1/2 inch further down, I would not have been so lucky. Aside from loading a squib load, my mistake was not watching a new shooter on the line.
 
The squib round thing...

I attended a Defensive Handgun course a few months ago. I could be wrong, but I don't recall any discussion of squib rounds. The FTF training I received was to slap the mag, rack the slide and fire. If that didn't go bang, drop the mag, rack repeatedly, load the mag, rack the slide and fire.

Perhaps that's right in a real life defensive situation, but having experienced a squib at the range (my load, my mistake), and recognizing it before jamming another round in the chamber and firing has me thinking the matter through.

At that same course, I was dumping boxes of factory ammo into a jacket pocket for loading. Without examining them beforehand (my bad, lesson learned). After the course I unloaded some mags and found a seriously set-back round. I'm thankful I didn't fire that round.

I've taken three first-time shooters to the range, and the topic of squib loads wasn't on the orientation. A fourth friend was with me when I shot that squib, and it was an eye-opening experience. We both learned a lot. Squib loads will be part of my new shooter orientation from here on out.

What worked for clearing the barrel was a piece of dowel and a bench vise, pushing the bullet back out of the barrel. Splinters flew and eye protection was a good thing. My better half has since stocked up on oak and brass dowels. To the point he makes me think he thinks a squib round will be a common occurrence. :) I think not!

My Dad and I were talking about this earlier today, and I searched and found an accounting of a squib on an LEO range. Mistakes were made and a second round was fired into a blocked barrel, with factory rounds. The blown gun was promptly replaced by the ammo manufacturer, no surprise. The RO is under scruntiny.

Pay attention.

And I'm going to put clean underwear in my range bag. :)
 
What worked for clearing the barrel was a piece of dowel
I keep a 1/4 inch extension in my range bag. If other shooters experience a squib (Thankfully, haven't had one in years), I tap it out with the extension and pliers. It doesn't take up much space and no flying splinters. :D
 
Hey, bds.

There must have been dozens of conversations about what folks carry in their range bags. (Spare underwear?!) I took a quick look, but didn't land on the thread. Do you have a pointer? Or should I start yet another thread on a worn topic?

Sherri

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I tried the search option several times with different key words too and nothing.

There was a thread with suggestions as to what to carry in the range bag ...

Maybe it's time for another thread? :D
 
I tried to load my finger-tip into a .45LC case once. Don't ask.
Fortunately, I didn't try too hard, and only ended up with a nice crescent-shaped cut on said fingertip...fairly painful, fairly bloody, but a hair more enthusiasm on the handle and it would have really been ugly.... ~.469 diameter acupuncture?
 
Gotta say, I'm impressed by everybodies candor.

I've had two good ones, the first 30 years ago and the second recently. I too once had a Lee Whack-A-Load. While in my dads upstairs office (I was 21) loading 45 Colt after being asked by my mother not to do it in the house I discovered exactly how much force on a Whack-A-Load is required to detonate a Large Pistol Primer while standing over it. Off in the distance I could hear through the ringing in my ears my mother inquiring if I was till alive. No more Whack-A-Loads, ever.

Along with attempting to resize a finger once or twice without success, how about switching from 45 Colt to 38 S&W dies on the press and forgeting to change the shell holder, #!%##^@!!!! When the ram came down without the brass in it, I'm sitting there scratching my head as to exactly why that shell holder let go and not figuring it out until I happened to look in the die case and realize that there was still a 38 shell holder in the it. 1st lesson, put all other dies away except what you're working with and no vice grips are not intended to remove stuck cases!!! Idiot, idiot, idiot!!!
 
After 30+ years of handloading I've had nothing more serious that a few squib loads that ended my revolver shooting for the day.
 
Dumb things while Reloading.. jeez, where do I begin? I learned straight out of the Sierra book (no one I knew reloaded ammunition). Good book, but not a substitute for a good instructor. Over a decade after I started reloading, I'm still learning things.

Anyway on to the dumb stuff:

* First time I loaded for 9mm, I had a Glock 17, and bought two 5 gallon buckets from an old guy at a gun show - one bucket was 3/4 full of brass (I *still* haven't gone through all of it a decade later), the other bucket about 1/10th full of 147gr cast lead ball. The lead bullets were a fairly soft composition, lead built up in the barrel over time, and I ended up bulging/destroying the original barrel.

* As part of the above, I was paranoid about pressure at first and went way too soft on the initial load. I also didn't know that you should load & test, load & test. So I loaded up 200 very soft subsonic 147 grain loads for the 9mm, and they wouldn't cycle the slide. Ended up hand-feeding them 1 at a time until I'd shot through the 4 boxes I made. (Wasn't long after that, I discovered the barrel had bulged - this happened immediately after switching from lead reloads to factory ammo).

* Loaded up a tray of 45 ACP, without primers and ended up with a big mess of Unique. Actually, I think this happened MORE than once when I was loading on a manual turret press. Now I use a Dillon and it only happens when I forget to put in the low-primer follower rod in the primer magazine; then the buzzer doesn't trip to tell me I need to refill it.

* Squib load. Somehow managed to load up a squib 9mm once, and had to hammer a bullet out of a Taurus.

* Not checking overall length; assumed the sizing die was set properly loading up 45ACP, and short loaded a batch of 250 rounds, after switching from FMJ to Golden Saber. Had to pull them all with the kinetic puller, which really, really sucked. I learned to re-test ALL measurements at the start of a session, even if I'm loading the same caliber as last time.

* Broken pins sizing mixed berdan primed 308's...

* Ruined expensive dies by forgetting to lube casings...

* (Just Last weekend!) dropped a full box of large pistol primers on the floor immediately after opening it. On a painted concrete floor, those little buggers can roll a LONG way. I'm still missing 6 of them.

* I used to load in the garage when we were renting a house 5 years ago; had 5 kids and no spare rooms to set up. Left my gear outside in the unheated garage all winter and the condensation ruined ALL of my reloading dies (rust). Some were salvageable but not all. Also, the crappy garage had cracks, and termites got in to my reloading bench, so I had to build a new one... Oh, those termites also got in to a cardboard box I had sitting on the floor that contained 150 primed 300 Win Mag casings.

And that's an interesting story - you know termites will actually build nests in a box full of shell casings? Yeah, I didn't either. Even more annoying, after cleaning them, is depriming. You can't just resize the buggers and push the primer out because that's exceptionally dangerous. So I soaked them in water. For *8* days. (Remember, these are NOT loaded, just empty primed cases). Test fired a few in my 300 Win mag and after soaking 8 days in water, THEY STILL FIRED. I was blown away.

So I put a bunch of old socks inside of one sock, taped it to the end of my 300 Win Mag barrel so it'd catch any debris, and went about firing off all of the primed casings in my livingroom. Well, I didn't realize how much heat those generated, so after a few minutes I set the socks taped to the end of my rifle on fire.

Yup, there I was, in my underwear, running through the house with a sock-wrapped flaming torch of a rifle. I made it to the kitchen where my wife was doing dishes and shoved the end of the flaming mess right in to her dish water.

She was NOT happy with me that night.

Hmm... what else...

* Buying a box of 1000 250 grain .452 lead cast bullets for my Glock 21 (this is before I knew about the leading problems in Glocks.) Anyway, 250 grains is a touch much for a 45ACP, but we'll get to that.... I'd discovered someone's loading information on the Internet, didn't bother to double-check for validity, and went about cooking up a batch of 50 rounds "for testing".

Note: It always makes you feel more important when you put the end before the means.. A claim of "Testing" can embolden you to make stupid decisions if you don't follow established methodologies properly..

So I head out to the range with these ridiculous 250 grain SWC 45ACP cartridges. I load up a magazine, point it down range, and "THUMP"... What the hell, I think.. that didn't feel right. The slide came back HARD, hung for an ackward moment, then "THUNK" went forward and chambered the next round.

I have to give it to Glock. That's one TOUGH gun.... and I was ridiculously dumb.

After four or five of those, I decided that I'd done something horribly wrong, because the gun was cycling so very strange. The weapon wasn't hurt, but if I'd continued down that path I was on, *I* might have been.

* ON a related note, of too-soft loads, I got really load happy on my Dillon progressive the week I bought it and cranked out a huge amount of 223 - some 1,200 rounds. I *thought* I was using a previously proofed-recipe for that rifle, but it turns out that batch I based the load on was when it was 100 degrees out in the middle of the summer. THEN it worked fine, and cycled the rifle. But that winter, when I loaded up those 1,200 rounds, I found it would short stroke my AR15 and cause all sorts of hideous feed problems.

Thinking I was going to be stuck with 1,200 "hot summer days only" rounds, I tried them out in my FS2000, and on the wide open gas port setting they actually cycle fine. Dodged a bullet so to speak there, but those rounds are only reliable in that FS2000; any other 223 weapon I own, they are too soft to work in.

* Forgetting powder in the hopper... my bench is in front of a window, east facing, so catches the sun in all of it's morning glory. UV rays break down powder, so leaving powder exposed to direct sunlight for a long period of time is bad, as is water vapor in a basement. I've burned off about a pound out of precaution over the years. Not a big waste, but still, annoying.

* Buying 50 lbs. of H1000 for my 300 Win Mag when I first started loading. An old timer had a keg of it for sale, along with 10,000 of the worst 168 grain lake city rejects the world has ever seen. I was dumb and bought them. All of it. Over the years I experimented with powders and found 5 other powders that are MUCH better and more accurate than H1000. So, here I am a decade later, and still have at least 15 pounds of it left. I've burned off at least 10 pounds of it over time, as it was kept in non-airtight containers, and some of it started turning south (caustic smell).

Which brings me to the WORST incident I've ever heard of. The guy that had the 50 lb keg of H1000, he told me a story. See, he kept the (original) cardboard keg in his unheated garage. Over the years, he'd pushed it aside, piled crap on it, and basically forgot it. But over time that keg was soaking up water vapor and was exposed to condensation .. a lot of it.

He went out to his garage one day and noticed a bad smell; burning his nose, type of smell. He started sniffing around and found that it was concentrated around one specific area. Moving a bunch of junk, he "re-discovered" this 50 lb keg of H1000 that he'd shoved in a corner and forgot about. Popping the lid on it, he was overwhelmed with fumes at first. Then, he noticed the powder was *steaming*.

He drug the keg out on to his driveway, and called the 800 number on the side of it. As he got on the line with the person that answered, he hurriedly explained the situation and the person said "GET THAT POWDER CLEAR OF ANYTHING, RIGHT NOW".

Well, as he was saying that, the powder ignited. The entire 50 lb keg went up in a matter of seconds. It melted a cast-iron patio table a few feet away - reduced it to slag. It bubbled the paint on his house, and garage. His chrome car bumper was cracked and the grill of his car melted, as did the plastic headlight brackets. The concrete drive cracked, and every bit of grass within 20' went up.

It went out as fast as it started, but sure as hell got the attention of the local fire department, police, neighbors, etc...

Anyway, the lesson I learned from his experience is that COOL DRY PLACE means exactly that. A cool *DRY* place. Not a garage.

As for Hodgedon? They sent him a replacement 50 lb keg free of charge, at no cost. Wonderful company to deal with. Anyway, back in 1998, that's what I ended up buying from him, at (get this) $4 per pound. So even if it isn't the best powder for my rifle, it's got me through cheap reloading for a long, long time now.

Got more stories but my fingers are tired. :)
 
I've been reloading for over twenty years and have done about everything I've heard here. Another mistake I didn't read was not crimping magnum loads tight enough. One shot out of the 44 mag and my prized 629 had bullets locking the cylinder up tight. Luckily I've never made the bullseye/ slow burner mix up mistake.
 
Hi, Trent.

The image of one running about the house in their underwear with a flaming sock-wrapped rifle provided me with a much needed belly laugh. I'm glad you're ok and telling the story! I had a good laugh again recounting the story to my husband. He wondered why you didn't head for the toilet?

I'm still laughing. Thanks for sharing.

This is a great thread. I've learned lots. Thanks to all.
 
Our last house, had one toilet.. we have 5 kids. It's never open when you REALLY REALLY gotta go. Our new house has 4 toilets. And... I have several fire extinguishers now. :)
 
BlayGlock;

That's a good one. People assume that the electronic scales are always accurate. Even me, for awhile. :(

I found out with some knocked-back primers once on my 300WM that isn't always the case. I now keep a dust cover over it to keep dust from building up on the plate & tray, and recalibrate it at the start of each reloading session.

You know, after reading that... I really should get a high quality manual scale for a cross reference. I only have ONE powder scale (RCBS electronic one). I sold my old electronic scale when I bought it, and I gave away my manual scale when I bought the first electronic one.

In other words, I have no way to actually verify that one scale I'm using is accurate.

Thanks for posting that one up!
 
I have had a squib load, but that was the only serious problem... BUT...

For the past two nights I have been learning a valuable tumbling lesson....

38's, 357's and 9mm's should NOT be tumbled with .45ACP brass! I have a small bucket full of 38/9mm stuffed 45's to seperate!
 
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