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EAA Witness Match 9mm mags problems

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SureThing, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    As some of you know, I just got a Elite Match in 9mm. It shoots like a dream, but the mags are a bit picky. I had the mag falling out issue that someone else has had. I have even adjusted the tab out to help them stay in. But upon close inspection, it appears the problem with the mag well is too large.

    It goes into the mag release tab and is held tight if you load the mag with some force, pressing it towards the front of the grip. If you load it with average force, and don't push to wards the front of the grip, it does not engage all the way into the mag release.

    If you take the grips off, you will see towards the bottom of the grip, there is about a 1mm or so, space between the mag and the rear of the frame.

    Anyone else have a 9mm or .40 with mag issues like this?

    Is this normal with the large framed EAA's?
  2. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you got a bum magazine. Have you tried any other mags?

    I own a few EAA EMs and Limiteds, none have any issues or problems. I've sold dozens of EAA EM pistols and none of them have had any problems.

    I'd take it back to where you got it and let them have a go at it.

    You're the first person that I've heard have a problem of this nature.

    Shoulda bought from me , you woudn't be having this problem.
  3. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    I have 4 mags, all factory, and they all do it. I had my local gun dealer get it for me. He had to order it, but I have done business with him in the past.

    Plus, why buy a gun on line, when I can buy it locally for the same price :)
  4. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    'cause I don't sell garbage and when you lead people to believe you'll buy from them you should follow through. :D

    Maybe your mag. release is the issue.

    If you're getting mags for $25, there are not factory EAA/Tanfoglio magazines.
  5. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

  6. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    What looks factory? There is no picture available.

    Maybe they're rejects, out of spec. etc... and that's why the problems.
  7. boogalou

    boogalou Well-Known Member

  8. ultramag44

    ultramag44 Well-Known Member

    Sorry hags; My dealer sold me factory Tanfoglio mags, in the factory bag w/ the factory stickers for $21.50

    My .45 match also had the mag drop issue w/ all 3 mags.

    Cure: bend out the tab a few thousands, and sand the top of the plastic mag base.
  9. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    Even bending the tags out a bit, you have to insert the mag right, if you don't then it does not catch for me.

    Ultramag, what do you think about the slide wearing on one side, but not the other. I has about 75 rounds through it now.
  10. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    Looking at the mag release, I have a the newer one, but I think if I took mine out and filed it down on the top side it would help a bit.
  11. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    I feel sorry for your dealer. He either lost money or I don't know what.

    Do they have the rail on the inside front of the magazine?
  12. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    Yes mine does. Says Tangfolio on the base, and came with a stupid pink warning tag in the bag were EAA washes it's hands if the mags don't work. But I paid $25 for mine. Remember, I bought 3 mags and the gun from the dealer.
  13. Gunfighter123

    Gunfighter123 Well-Known Member

    I found/read that you need to sand the plastic mag pad a bit --- it is a little big and will only lock up IF you really "slam" the mag in --- take it off and sand the top a little and it will lock much more positive.
  14. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    Ok, they sound like EAA/Tanfoglio magazines to me. Whatever, there are old mags floating around and they were upgraded for a reason.

    Wonder what the problem you're having is, spring, mag. catch seem small or fitted wrong?

    Also, like I mentioned on your other thread the wear on one rail versus the other is, or shouldn't be, a concern.
  15. SureThing

    SureThing Well-Known Member

    I was just curious if others had wear only one one side of the slide, or if it was just mine.
  16. ultramag44

    ultramag44 Well-Known Member

    SureThing: keep a close eye on it. Disassemble the pistol and look for any abnomalities. It just may be a finish thing. if anything looks wrong, STOP shooting the gun!

    hags, Here's what you don't know. I am a very loyal be-och to my dealer. I buy 99% of my guns from him, or he handles the transfers. He makes $$ every time.

    I bring food, either bought, or homemade to the gun shop.

    When he has been very busy, I've shown guns to other prospective customers, described the guns features, and sold them on buying the gun.

    That's why he sold me mags @ just above his cost. I can also just say: "I want that gun", and put it in the store safe without putting down any deposit $$.

    Right then, any questions?
  17. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    None for you.

    If your .45 had the same issues then they sound like defective mags as well. The question wasn't about magazine prices. I've moved on already, why don't you?

    That's nice of you to bring food, anything else you do for him on the side?

    That's below dealer cost, so I questioned it, any questions?
  18. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    How long have you been dealing with EAA?
  19. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    What does that have to do with anything?

    Ok, I just got off my fat ass and grabbed my EAA dealer price list.

    You are correct, I was $10 off.

    I'll go take the size 13 out of my mouth now.

  20. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member


    I thought perhaps you hadn't dealt with them much. If so, you'll probably find that they're a bit quirky (to put it nicely).

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