Elk Rifle Opinions

[moosehunt]

Any Kimber is much higher quality than any Remington, hands down, and I'm not a Remington hater. It's a simple fact. I tend agree with the lighter weight gang, though age may be a true consideration. When I was a young pup, weight was a non-factor. Long about 45 or so, it began to be a bit of a factor, so if our client here is a pup (under 40), lest he's a city slicker out of shape, the weight shouldn't matter, but I'd still go with quality. And, Mr. Tango2echo, you are very correct about the 500 yard shooting. It is one thing to be able to poke holes in a target off a bench at 500 yards, quite another thing when tired & winded in the field. I truly have to wonder if Mr. CObrad has ever hunted Elk?

 

[Art Eatman]

Aw, moosehunt, if a fella can satisfy himself about his rifle's performance out in Ma Bell distances, he's likely to be able to hack it when out there hunting. Seems like for a lot of folks, from what I read, the problem is the finding of Mr. Elk, not shooting him.

And let's stay away from the politcs of Cooper and all that stuff...

 

[tango2echo]

Hey COBrad, I was just expressing my opinion based on years of hunting elk, deer, and other big game. No reason to get your feathers ruffled. If you really want to talk about my shooting ability you can look me up next time you're in North Carolina. Bring your rifle. I'm up for a little contest if you are. I'm nationally ranked in F class and my Dad taught Marksmanship for 16 years in the Corps. I practice several times per month out to 800 meters and I have a range in my back yard. You can sit on the porch and watch while I out-shoot you with your own rifle. Sound good? If you're still not convinced we'll try with the shotguns. I'm no crack shot with one, but I usually shoot about 90% in trap.

Learn to lighten up man. The range and the mountains are two totally different things.

T2E

 

[H&Hhunter]

I really like the 8400 Kimber Montana. I kind of lust after one in .338 and the .300 WM would be a fine choice as well.

I've got an 8400 in 06 and it is a bug hole rifle shooting tiny little groups. I killed my elk with it year before last.

 

[CObrad]

Howdy fellas, for what it's worth, I have guided elk hunts here in Colorado for 29 years, and was a licensed outfitter for 9. tango2echo with that kind of experience you no doubt know more about long distance shooting than I, but you would also know that 500 yard shots are entirely do-able in the field under the right conditions. My experience has been that most guys I have talked to that take a hard stand about the poor ethics of longer range shooting usually have no experience at it either. Anyway, no offense intended, nor taken.

 

[moosehunt]

Nice response, CObrad, without getting in a tizzy. I respect that. Who did you guide for? I realize that may have been back when a license wasn't required. I guided a few years back then myself in CO, down Durango/Hesperus way. Found it not to my liking, as it seemed to make hunting work, not fun.

 

[CObrad]

All the guys I guided for are gone now. I ran a camp for a guy out of Burns, on the Colorado River near Glenwood Springs, I guided for a number of years on a ranch up Canyon Creek, also near Glenwood, as well as a couple of other guys in the same general area. My own camps were on a ranch out of Hotchkiss, a BLM permit near Paonia, and a Forest Service permit on the Grand Mesa, near Grand Junction. That was a great area. It was all horse back and really nice country to hunt; not too hard on horses or clients, and we usually averaged in the low to mid 70% range on elk tags filled. I do miss those days.