ESPN 103.3 dallas anti gun spew

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Did anyone else happen to catch the brodcast Wednesday night at 8. It was on ESPN 103.3 in dallas. This guy greggo goes on to comment on the giants football player who shot himself. He then says that he is a long time firearmes user/collector with a carry permit but "DOES NOT" and then spends the next 10 min going on how if you are going into a place where you think you need a gun then dont go there. He also commented that anyone who carries a gun "Cocked" is an idiot.

Now im not condoning what the guiants player in question did he broke the law. But this yahoo of an announcer is making comments that group lawabiding carriers in with this idiot. I for one am upset at his commentary considering that its a SPORTS show not a what you think is right and wrong hour.

Anyone else who heard this guy feedback would be appreciated.

Watson
 
Greg Williams is an idiot. Him lecturing anybody about anything is awfully hypocritical. He was booted from 1310 AM "The Ticket" due to numerous cocaine addiction relapses, as recently as a year ago.
 
He then says that he is a long time firearmes user/collector with a carry permit but "DOES NOT" and then spends the next 10 min going on how if you are going into a place where you think you need a gun then dont go there.
1. I place no more value on the opinions of sports commentators on any substantive topic than I do on the similar opinions of porn actresses.

2. Those six women in that Tinley Park, IL Lane Bryant store didn't think they needed guns when they went there. They were wrong.
 
Yeah Greggo claims to be a big firearms guy. I use to listin to him on the Ticket, guess he met up with a friend before the show and got a little coked up again. His career is over, a non story.
 
He should learn to keep his mouth shut about the law abiding public until he has taken a hard look at himself. I am in fact more comfortable knowing he doesn't carry due to his addiction history.
 
watson said:
Did anyone else happen to catch the brodcast Wednesday night at 8. It was on ESPN 103.3 in dallas. This guy greggo goes on to comment on the giants football player who shot himself. He then says that he is a long time firearmes user/collector with a carry permit but "DOES NOT" and then spends the next 10 min going on how if you are going into a place where you think you need a gun then dont go there. He also commented that anyone who carries a gun "Cocked" is an idiot.

Unless he said more than that, I don't see what's anti-gun. Sure it's opinionated and might be out of step with this forum's collective mindset, but anti-gun?

Truth is, most people with carry permits don't carry, Greggo certainly isn't unique in this. This is especially relevant in Texas where you couldn't keep a gun in your car without fear of being involuntarily detained by the DPD/HPD until the last legislative session.

The second bit about not going to places you think you need a gun is a bit of wisdom that's routinely quoted on gunboards and not a bad piece of advice. It usually isn't in indictment of carrying so much as it is staying in the worst parts of town until o'dark o'clock when criminals tend to be more active.

Not carrying chambered/cocked is outside of most trainers’ recommendations, but there’s even a small minority of people on this board that prefer Israeli-style carry for whatever reason. The percentage of people that are comfortable with chambered carry goes down very quickly when you move to the infrequent carrying CHL holders due to lack of familiarity.

Overly opinionated and under educated? I'll buy that. But anti-gun? That's a bit of a stretch based on the information given.
 
Unless he said more than that, I don't see what's anti-gun

The problem i had with what he said wasn't so much that he has a permit and doesn't carry it was that he was grouping "ANYONE" who felt the need to carry a gun for protection... law abiding or not... into the same category as that stupid giants player. With the news media painting the picture they want to these days we don't need more media personalities clouding the line between criminal carrying a gun, and law abiding person with a ccw.

Maybe he wasn't anti-gun per say, however he sure wasnt doing anything to help law abiding carriers. :scrutiny:

Watson
 
The second bit about not going to places you think you need a gun is a bit of wisdom that's routinely quoted on gunboards and not a bad piece of advice. It usually isn't in indictment of carrying so much as it is staying in the worst parts of town until o'dark o'clock when criminals tend to be more active.
If I could accurately predict WHEN AND WHERE I'd need a firearm, I wouldn't NEED one.
 
Well the fact that the show has a listening audience of about 30 people should help.

Hardline is one of the lowest rated shows in Dallas/Ft Worth radio.

Let's put it this way, a show called "American Senior Guide" has about the same ratings from the website I just checked. :)

http://americanseniorguide.com/
 
Well the fact that the show has a listening audience of about 30 people should help.

Yea rifleman I don't listen to it on a regular basis i was just flipping through radio stations and when I heard him talking about carrying a firearm I kept it on the station to see what was being said.

I guess its true what they say the people that are the biggest preachers are often the worst hippocrates.

Watson
 
mdao said:
The second bit about not going to places you think you need a gun is a bit of wisdom that's routinely quoted on gunboards and not a bad piece of advice.
Well...duh!

If you have the mental capacity and ability to know when and where you will "need" a gun, then you would have the capability to withdrawal yourself from that situation long before hand.

Now, having said that. Should no one attend Church anymore? Go to Malls? College? High Schools? Department stores?

Those are all places quite recently in history where violence has occurred resulting in death(s) of innocent people. None of them knew they were going to "need" a gun that day. I'm sure had they been carrying one, they still would have gone.

I still go to such places and carry. Not because I "need" to, or feel that I "might need" a gun. But because I learn from history. No place is any safer than another, whether it the Ghetto or a University. Violence happens. If I were to not go anywhere because I might need a gun then I'd be stuck at home. Which, by rule wouldn't be any safer for me to do. If you knew there was never going to be a time or place you'd "need" a gun, then you'd (not necessarily you) never carry one in the first place.

Now, if you are going to a bowling alley, where regular Joe Schmo said the next time he caught you there he was going to kill you, then DUH, take that advice and stay away. But not if you're out for a nice night with your wife and you think the fancy restaurant you're at just might get robbed.
 
Well the fact that the show has a listening audience of about 30 people should help.

Hardline is one of the lowest rated shows in Dallas/Ft Worth radio.


Hey Texas Rifleman
Huh? They are #1 in their time slot. And by the way, he's not on the Hardline anymore.
 
Hey Texas Rifleman
Huh? They are #1 in their time slot. And by the way, he's not on the Hardline anymore.

The new show with Choppy has only been on since late September.

The Arbitron book isn't out for them yet, so they can't claim they are #1 in anything. The latest ratings for anything related to Williams is Hardlines last book.

That according to Arbitron anyway, unless you have a better source for radio ratings.
 
The new show with Choppy has only been on since late September.

The Arbitron book isn't out for them yet, so they can't claim they are #1 in anything. The latest ratings for anything related to Williams is Hardlines last book.

That according to Arbitron anyway, unless you have a better source for radio ratings.

You're confusing The Ticket and ESPN Radio.

Greg Williams is no longer with 1310 The Ticket, he got canned about this time last year for walking out of the studio and going on a coke binge. His new show on ESPN Radio is not "Hardline". The Hardline is still on The Ticket, hosted by Rhyner and Corby.

Bob, Dan, and Donovan in 1310's Noon-3 slot are better anyway.
 
Yeah, my source is I listin to the Hardline every day, Greg Williams hasn't been on there for over a year.
 
ESPN (97.5) in Houston plays ads from a local gun store all the time. This gun store carries or at least promotes on personal defense firearms on their ads and is always promoting their next CCW class on the ads.

Funny things is one of their adds advising all the criminals to head north up I45 (to Dallas) as they are becoming out gunned in Houston!
 
Greg Williams is no longer with 1310 The Ticket, he got canned about this time last year for walking out of the studio and going on a coke binge. His new show on ESPN Radio is not "Hardline". The Hardline is still on The Ticket, hosted by Rhyner and Corby.

No I am not confusing them, I am saying that his new show has NO RATINGS yet so it can't be "#1" in anything. Arbitron has not published ratings for "The Show" with Choppy. The last ratings published for anything Greg Williams was associated with was from Hardline, at the bottom of the ratings pile in the Dallas market.

Yeah, my source is I listin to the Hardline every day, Greg Williams hasn't been on there for over a year.

Which is my point since you claimed his new show has a #1 rating which is not possible since it's only been out since September and Arbitron hasn't released their fall book on the show yet as far as I can tell.

As I said, the last thing Greg Williams has ratings for is Hardline.
 
The last ratings published for anything Greg Williams was associated with was from Hardline, at the bottom of the ratings pile in the Dallas market.
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This is off topic, but Texas Rifleman, you are just wrong about this. I don't know where you are getting this. They have been #1 or #2 for years in their time slot of afternoon drive.
 
This is off topic, but Texas Rifleman, you are just wrong about this. I don't know where you are getting this. They have been #1 or #2 for years in their time slot of afternoon drive.

Arbitron's last ratings for Hardline is a 6.5 share in Male 25-54, just pulled them up. So you are right, it's higher than I thought. Ratings only come out 4 times a year by the way. The Summer 08 ratings are the latest released and Greg Williams new show has no ratings yet. They will be in the Fall 08 book when Arbitron releases them.

The Ticket is pounding ESPN so Williams will not help that station at all probably. Which gets back to the original point that no one is listening to Greg Williams when he runs his mouth off about guns.

Here's the Ticket vs ESPN radio in the Summer 08 book, these without Williams.

Time-----------------Ticket------ESPN 103.3
6am-------------------- 5.4--------3.4
7a---------------------- 9.3--------3.2
8a---------------------- 8.3--------4.2
9a---------------------- 7.7--------3.1
10a---------------------6.6--------2.5
11a---------------------5.8--------4.7
Noon-------------------6.6--------5.0
1p---------------------- 6.9--------4.8
2p---------------------- 7.6--------2.7
3p---------------------- 7.7--------2.9
4p---------------------- 9.6--------3.3
5p---------------------11.9--------5.9
6p---------------------- 7.7--------3.3
7p---------------------- 6.1--------2.9
8p---------------------- 4.4--------1.7
9p---------------------- 2.0--------0.5
10p-------------------- 1.0--------0.3
11p---------------------1.4--------3.0

The Tickets ratings dropped dramatically recently but many are blaming the change to this thing called "Portable People Meter" that Arbitron is now using to measure listeners. Greggo of course spins it that it's because he has left the show. Many stations saw ratings drop when Arbitron changed measuring technique so his argument doesn't necessarily work.

Lots of articles on all of this out there, this one especially critical of Williams. Seems well deserved. I'm sure Hardline will do better without him.

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-07-03/news/the-hard-lie/1

Some quotes:

"I'm an addict. I don't do anything half-ass," Williams says, shrugging at his organizational overload. "I've always been super-neat. Make the bed, clean up after yourself. Everything's got its place."

Because right now—first things first—the host really wants you to see his pride and joy. His gun collection.

"I should not be allowed to own all these," says Williams, unlocking a 6-foot-tall safe stockpiled with an arsenal that would make David Koresh blush. "Nobody should be able to go out and buy an assault rifle. But, because the law says I can, I'm going to take advantage of it."

Anyway, the point is he's not someone who anyone is listening to anyway, and he's clearly no friend to gun owners in any way.
 
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If he is a former sel admitted drug abuser/addict. How does he answer the background check questions and get licensed to carry?
 
It was a Glock, stuffed in the waistband of sweat pants. That's the story I heard.

Glock stuffed in the pants is an AD waiting to happen.
 
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