ever see this problem with Taurus revolvers

[rugernut]

22 lr revolver , after shhooting 25 or so rounds the trigger starts getting harder and harder to pull and will then seize up completely , after a couple hours of "cooling down" , will work again , only to repeat the process.
gun belongs to one of my customers , plans to send it back for repair , just wondered if any of you had seen this happen.

thanks

 

[BigN]

Yes, I'm going through it right now with a Tracker in 44 Mag, sent it in recently for the 4th time in less than a year. Seems to be a common problem with Taurus if you Google it.

 

[oldfool]

yeah, it happens
you didn't mention model number, but..
you could do a search function here or most anywhere, notably on Taurus model 94 (or 941 in 22WMR rimfire)
some do, some don't, and some never do 'unlock' by merit of cool down
multiple possible causes, send it in back in, it's not like something unusual at the Taurus service center
(and check it yourself, 50 rounds live fire minimum, when returned from Taurus if you don't like unhappy customers)

 

[rugernut]

thanks , I will pass on the info , just hope he doesn't come in wanting tio trade it in on something.

 

[F-111 John]

How's the cylinder/forcing cone gap? If it's too small, the face of the cylinder can drag on the forcing cone as the cylinder heats up and expands.

 

[Old Fuff]

Concerning both revolvers:

1. Be sure that fouling under the extractor star isn't causing the cylinder to wedge.

2. Check the cylinder/barrel gap to be sure it isn't too small. If lead builds up on the cylinder face and barrel it can also wedge the cylinder and stop it from turning.

3. Be sure there is nothing on the yoke barrel (the tube the cylinder rotates on) that is causing the cylinder to bind.

 

[duck911]

I had the exact same issue with my Taurus .357 mag. In fact, you can see my previous posts here.

When the gun worked, the trigger was great and it was accurate as hell. But after a few cylinders full of .357 it would start locking up just like the OP's gun.

When it would lock up, I could clearly see no gap between the cylinder face and forcing cone. I could also see the slightest rub marks on the cylinder face. I finally decided the gun had super tight clearance and would lock up due to heat and fouling. I searched high and low for a smith who would shave a little off the forcing cone, but all the smiths around here told me it takes a special jig and in the end, no one would work on it.

Instead of sending it back in to Tauris, paying shipping, etc, I took matters into my own hands.

I bought a flat, very-super-fine file and EVER......SO..... GENTLY......, and keeping care to keep the file square and flat on the forcing cone, took a couple 10 thousands off the forcing cone.

The gun has worked FLAWLESSLY since then - thousands of rounds - and it's the most accurate revolver I own.

For what it's worth.

--Duck911

 

[BRE346]

FWIW, I believe Duck did the right thing the right way. Good for you, Duck.

 

[skidder]

sent it in recently for the 4th time in less than a year.

BigN-- I would trade it at a pawn shop for a loss. They might only give you $150 to $200, but at least your headache would be gone.

 

[Willfully Armed]

BigN-- I would trade it at a pawn shop for a loss. They might only give you $150 to $200, but at least your headache would be gone.

NO. Why would this even seem like a viable option to you?

If it goes back more than once and they can't fix it, demand a new gun.

 

[Cat-Herder]

I had a 689 with the same problem. The ejector rod had worked itself loose, and since its threading and the rotation of the cylinder ran opposite one another, it would back itself out until it bound up the gun. A quick disassembly/cleaning followed with a little blue loctite on the threads solved THAT particular problem. About 5000 rounds later the timing began to go out, and rather than send it in, I sold it to a buddy who really liked it.
I wish I would've kept it though, it was very accurate, and the timing problem couldn't have been a tough fix for the factory.
Still, I replaced it with a King Cobra, so I'm happy!

 

[Zombiphobia]

I agree that trading any gun for a loss because it doesn't function and the manufacturer can't fix it is not an option. Demand a replacement or return of full purchase price

 

[oldfool]

"If it goes back more than once and they can't fix it, demand a new gun."
yeah... good luck with that, re: Taurus CS
hint, Lifetime Warranty = right to return as many times as you want to, does not equal new gun to replace

PS
Old Fuff is right as usual.. be sure the gun is clean (under extractor, ejector rod not unscrewed, etc., the obvious stuff). But unless OP is a gunsmith, or even if he is (though he would not likely be asking this question), and if he sold a NIB gun to a customer, why on earth would OP NOT send it to CS (as in arranging for customer to send it to CS, user friendly shop owner) ?
If b/c gap is so tight, that just 25 rounds of rimfire thru a prior to shooting clean gun binds it up due to face fouling and/or 'heat', it is too tight.

if inclined to take a file to it, suggest you let the gun owner do that, it's owner's warranty, not seller's, absent seller's personal contractual promises to the contrary
or Taurus CS
not the seller, he don't own it... but he just might own it if he starts filing on it
"hope he doesn't come in wanting to trade it in on something."

 

[skidder]

BigN-- I know it doesn't sound like wisdom to take a loss on a gun, but two can play at that game. We know pawn shops screw people daily on guns; they buy at 30% or less, and then sell for 100%.

Once you try the Taurus warranty and your gun comes back worse, sending it in a 2nd time is even harder.

My first Taurus (brand new) came back from the factory not fixed, but they sent me the parts so I fixed it myself. I sold that gun, with confidence, to a private party knowing it functioned properly. When my 2nd Taurus started going bad I knew it would not register as a repair to the monkeys in Florida (nothing too serious, extra play on four chambers), but I knew this kind of repair was beyond my scope, so I started shopping around.

In one of the pawn shops I saw a mistake that might work in my favor. A 1948 K22 for $254. I ran home and grabbed my last Taurus worth about $250 to $300, put my truck in high gear hoping the K22 was still there. I sold it for $150 and the gun was now registered to them (by law they have to buy your gun first). I put that money towards the K22. I feel like I took a loss on the Taurus, but their mistake on the price of the K22 put me ahead. If you can balance your loss selling cheap is not always getting screwed.

BigN-- Next time your gun comes back from Taurus I wouldn't even test it. Take it to a gun-show or pawn-shop, with a clear conscience, knowing that the expert gunsmiths at Taurus fixed it and stamped it with the seal of their AAA+ warranty. I would say that leaves you off the hook. Just a little advice from somebody who's walked a mile in the same moccasins.

 

[rugernut]

I really like some of the user names , they seem to fit, like mine , I have about 15 Ruger hand guns.....
Old fool.....I DIDNOT sell the gun to this customer, if I had I would have made him a deal to get rid of the inferior gun and replace it with some thing better, and then dealt with the warranty issue myself, that sir is customer service , but , when he came in to buy a Ruger , and was telling me about the Taurus issue I offered to post it here for him to avail ourselves of the knowledge and experience of the members of this board. which of course has brought a lot of good info as always.
thanks to all for your input.

 

[Ditchtiger]

I have a 606 that used to lock-up on double action pulls once in 30-40 rounds.
Would then cock it as single action and trouble gone again for a little bit.
Always worked great as a single action though.
Sent it in to Taurus for repair and it has fired 1000's of round since with no troubles.

 

[webfox]

My Taurus .44 did that. They sent FedEx out to pick up the gun and it was returned, fixed, in 3 business days. No cost to me.

They just ground down the forcing cone a little bit.

 

[EmGeeGeorge]

Just got a -94 .22 LR with a a 5 ", blued; I've been a rare Taurus owner apparently, so far a 617, 85, 66, and now a 94 with no issues! My wife has one of the 1911 models she loves...

Shot 50 out of it yesterday, mini-mags, no hiccups, did tighten up the adjustable sights right after but they were jiggly to start.

For sub $300 out the door for a NIB revo' not too bad, and good shooter to. DA is heavy, SA is crisp and light. If there had been a S&W 34 wouldve paid more for it, but only ruger has the SP101 in .22 in a comparable package, and the one I saw I was not impressed with, for the $.

So far Taurus has been 5 for 5 for me. In a positive light that is.

 

[MCgunner]

If you don't like your Taurus, I'll pay for you to ship it to me. That way, you'll be rid of the "headache".

 

[Jaymo]

I've owned about ten Taurus handguns. I've never had a single problem with any of them.