Eveyone is selling their assault rifles!
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SilentArmy
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+1 on those who saw the Obamanation coming! I bought/built 9 AR 15's in the yr before the apocalypse that is our current administration and most cost me about $550 each to complete. Although they are Now selling for triple that, I have not jumped into the scalpers market. I did sell one for $950 last summer to a co worker. I do not agree with the lack of ethics involved in raping the unprepared at a time when they may need a deal the most! If the time should ever come and we all pray it doesnt, they will be issued to family members with mags and ammo and god bless us all at that point. I see hundreds of them for sale at ridiculous markups on KSL.com and I just shake my head especially when I see some marked sold within ten mins of posted for sale.
rscalzo
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Change Firearms to housing and you have the last five years. When the bubble bursts they will be hitting the shelves at a cheaper price. Stopped by a dealer today and he had five new AR's on the rack. Oddly, no one was even looking at them.
ThomasT
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I started a thread a week ago about all the ARs at the Mesquite GS in dallas. The tables were full of ARs, there were several AKs and lots of people walking around with personal ARs for sale.
When I walked in the door a person was filling out paperwork on a new gun. That was the ONLY sale I saw being made while I was there. I'm sure there were more but not like it normally is. I am thinking that all those that bought with the intent to sell may be in for a surprise. They may not get what they think they are going to get.
I just got back from my dealer. He has almost no used guns for sale. He said people aren't buying that much and they sure aren't selling what they have.
I really don't know what to expect the market to do. I'm just glad I stocked up on guns, ammo and reloading supplies when I did.
When I walked in the door a person was filling out paperwork on a new gun. That was the ONLY sale I saw being made while I was there. I'm sure there were more but not like it normally is. I am thinking that all those that bought with the intent to sell may be in for a surprise. They may not get what they think they are going to get.
I just got back from my dealer. He has almost no used guns for sale. He said people aren't buying that much and they sure aren't selling what they have.
I really don't know what to expect the market to do. I'm just glad I stocked up on guns, ammo and reloading supplies when I did.
Well I really expect there to be a glut of military rifles in the market some time in the near future. The economy is going to force many to sell their belongings and at some point supply will catch up to demand and with manufacturers working at full capacity will overshoot demand as it falls off quickly. There will be no AWB this presidential term at least and I think people are going to realize this pretty soon no matter what Holder has to say. This is only my personal theory and of course others are convinced of an upcoming ban and dealers and sellers will gladly stoke that fire.
True words never spoken. Everyone should take a look at what happened to the housing market when the number of homes bought skyrocketed for a few years. I saw this coming last summer and was called foolish for my thoughts. I think there will come a point when AR's aren't the hot item, people need money because of poor economy, and the prices drop because there will no longer be a lack of supply. You won't find many things that sustain their value after a HUGE spike in sales like AR's took.
Just some thoughts.
Well first off, anyone that has $10,000 laying around to spend on AR-15's knows that is not a good investment. They didn't get rich by buying Rifles for $1000.00 and selling them for a $500.00 profit a year down the road. Its not worth the time and effort. Yeah you could make some money, but after shipping and handling there goes a big part of profit. All of shipping and handling includes gas, paying FFL fees, shipping fees, advertising, time lost driving to Post Office or UPS then waiting in line to ship it. Time is money people anyone that has tried to run a business knows this. Trying to make money at this is just a poor decision. Guys that have that kind of money typically don't know how to build an AR-15 out of random parts. If they do they are a gun dealer and can buy them cheap enough that their time is not worth building one for sale.
People who think zombies and the apocalypse are real, take off your foil hat already.
For those who are trying to make out like no one is selling there " semi auto military rifles" ( is that better?) look at the rifles for sale section here at THR.
Bottom line (my theory) people are selling them because they have no use for them, they have already impressed their friends with it and now its not that cool, they found out how expensive ammo is, they realized there won't be an ASB for another five years and should sell them while they think they can make a profit.
I am sure some people have sold their personal rifle because they seen they could make some money, but they won't be buying another one, till they get cheap again. Also what drove them to sell it in the first place, that is if they can't get another one at a cheap price.
What gun monkey has the money to buy two $1000.00 rifles and sit on it for a year for a $500.00 dollar profit? I can think of alot better things to invest that money in.
Well first off, anyone that has $10,000 laying around to spend on AR-15's knows that is not a good investment. They didn't get rich by buying Rifles for $1000.00 and selling them for a $500.00 profit a year down the road. Its not worth the time and effort. Yeah you could make some money, but after shipping and handling there goes a big part of profit. All of shipping and handling includes gas, paying FFL fees, shipping fees, advertising, time lost driving to Post Office or UPS then waiting in line to ship it. Time is money people anyone that has tried to run a business knows this. Trying to make money at this is just a poor decision. Guys that have that kind of money typically don't know how to build an AR-15 out of random parts. If they do they are a gun dealer and can buy them cheap enough that their time is not worth building one for sale.
People who think zombies and the apocalypse are real, take off your foil hat already.
For those who are trying to make out like no one is selling there " semi auto military rifles" ( is that better?) look at the rifles for sale section here at THR.
Bottom line (my theory) people are selling them because they have no use for them, they have already impressed their friends with it and now its not that cool, they found out how expensive ammo is, they realized there won't be an ASB for another five years and should sell them while they think they can make a profit.
I am sure some people have sold their personal rifle because they seen they could make some money, but they won't be buying another one, till they get cheap again. Also what drove them to sell it in the first place, that is if they can't get another one at a cheap price.
What gun monkey has the money to buy two $1000.00 rifles and sit on it for a year for a $500.00 dollar profit? I can think of alot better things to invest that money in.
Some people never would have dreamed that their new home would depreciate so fast that within months of buying they had negative home equity. Like I said it is my personal theory but it is grounded in reality I think more so than thinking these prices can be sustained in the worst economy since the Great Depression.
Pizzagunner
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What is funny is none of them have seemingly read ferFAL's blog on the Argentinean economic collapse at the turn of the new century.
A run on higher capacity semiauto handguns I can understand since they can provide 24/7/365 personal protection everywhere one goes.
In a few years' time if you're running and gunning in the streets with a semiauto AR-15 while on a milkrun with a wheelbarrow full of worthless fiat currency, you have acute life expectancy problems.
If there is any semblance of law and order, the rifle has to stay home or in the trunk.
Boba Fett
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Awwww now come on...don't you know that the cricket stick is the best zombie defense??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfDUv3ZjH2k
As for the selling my AR, I'm not. I love shooting my RRA AR-15. And were the ammo not prohibitively expensive, I'd get a 458 upper for it too.
I agree that at some point, the market will become saturated and the price will come back down to normal levels. Barring some sort of weapons ban of course.
And as far as the ammo costs go, start reloading.
I'm not sure where the OP is, or people who are seeing tables full of "assault" rifles, but it sure ain't Ohio.
I fully expect the market to return to some form of "normal" once supply catches up, the economy bites harder, and the .gov continues to do nothing to restrict sales (<--This is an optimistic assumption, I'm certainly not gambling on it being right). We may never see $325 SARs and WASRs again, but we should see people with stuff in stock, so there's no longer a choice between "reasonably priced on backorder for a year" and "are you kidding me?" for what's in the rack. For the moment, though, that's what we have.
Mike
I fully expect the market to return to some form of "normal" once supply catches up, the economy bites harder, and the .gov continues to do nothing to restrict sales (<--This is an optimistic assumption, I'm certainly not gambling on it being right). We may never see $325 SARs and WASRs again, but we should see people with stuff in stock, so there's no longer a choice between "reasonably priced on backorder for a year" and "are you kidding me?" for what's in the rack. For the moment, though, that's what we have.
Mike
krs
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There were all manner of AR's for sale at the Vancouver, WA gunshow today. Most often seen price was at or around $900.
I'm not sure why people seem to assume that a return to AWB would have all the same characteristics as the past ban had. Suppose they tighten it up, and what would prevent a complete ban without the grandfathering of the previous one?
Maybe the folks who are selling now will be the only people who will not have their weapons confiscated.
I'm not sure why people seem to assume that a return to AWB would have all the same characteristics as the past ban had. Suppose they tighten it up, and what would prevent a complete ban without the grandfathering of the previous one?
Maybe the folks who are selling now will be the only people who will not have their weapons confiscated.
Mike U.
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EBR prices will start falling if and when both houses roll over to the Republicans in 2010. Once a Republican majority is established in both houses, the threat of another AWB will diminish drastically. Then prices will likely start falling. Especially if the economy is still in a downward trend.
If Obama gets neutered in 2010, everyone will begin to relax again. People will begin second guessing their EBR purchases as the need for mortgage money goes up. Look for a price decrease then. Hopefully, we will be able to stop the Democrats from halting ammo imports. This is where they'll hit us big when the time comes.
If Obama gets neutered in 2010, everyone will begin to relax again. People will begin second guessing their EBR purchases as the need for mortgage money goes up. Look for a price decrease then. Hopefully, we will be able to stop the Democrats from halting ammo imports. This is where they'll hit us big when the time comes.
I sold mine because I could sell it used for more than I spent on it new. The local store had a few come in new that week for the same price I bought my first one at. In my case I took an $850 rifle, put another $200 into, shot the piss out of it, and then sold it for $1600, to buy another one for $850 and know what extra $200 worth of junk I didn't want to buy. So it wasn't that I was out to turn a profit but that the chance came up and I jumped on it and replaced what I had with a new one. I wouldn't start buying them to sell them but if the local guy is selling at the same prices as 12 months ago and I can sell at today's prices I might as well get paid to shoot.
TexasRifleman
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People sell guns?
You mean you can sell them too? How odd
You mean you can sell them too? How odd
outdoorman63
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you have a lot of people who have to decide whether to sell a rifle or 2 or feed their family..i have bought more lately from friends on hard times than i have from dealers
TexasRifleman
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These days you are probably right. That's a depressing thought. Never really occurred to me. Yuk.
Boba Fett
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Yeah...somehow I think that wouldn't go over well and you'd get people who follow the "...from my cold dead hands" method rising up against such action.
bannockburn wrote:
I see that you obviously don't travel much in Zombie preparation circles. That term has been used to the point of "common usage."
Same with PAW, ZPAW, and Zeds.
As for the selling, some of us aren't.
I sold an HK-91 at the beginning of the first ban and spent YEARS regretting that sell. I was young, stupid, and had dollars in my eyes.
I am not setting myself up for regret if one does come around again.
-- John
I see that you obviously don't travel much in Zombie preparation circles. That term has been used to the point of "common usage."
Same with PAW, ZPAW, and Zeds.
As for the selling, some of us aren't.
I sold an HK-91 at the beginning of the first ban and spent YEARS regretting that sell. I was young, stupid, and had dollars in my eyes.
I am not setting myself up for regret if one does come around again.
-- John
rbernie
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I don't see a sellin' trend much, other than from folks who have multiples and are looking to spread 'em around and make a few schekels.
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