Ex-NYC mayor: Ban all guns

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Aside from regulated hunting exceptions and those individuals who are deemed in danger by the police commissioner, all U.S. civilians should be banned from owning any kind of gun, argued former New York City Mayor Ed Koch in a radio interview today.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Anyone running for public office should have to complete a college course on Constitutional Law, and PASS.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Anyone running for public office should have to complete a college course on Constitutional Law, and PASS.
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I was thinking of a much simpler solution. Start calling for or advocating crap to take away our rights and we exile you to a third world hellhole run by warlords and cannibals. Long pig, it's the other other white meat
 
It's funny how politicians in the most firearms repressive places in the US like NYC, Chicago, and Washington, always seem to want to argue that their vision for gun control and crime suppression keeps failing because people outside those urban paradises are have access to guns which spoils their local efforts.

This mostly amuses me simply because they seem happy to ignore the crime stats from the UK where the population was vigorously disarmed of handguns, semi auto rifles, etc., and had access to other firearms extremely restricted. Besides rampant assaults and such, they still have gun crime in the UK, including spree shootings.
 
He's an idiot.

Predators prey upon those weaker than themselves.

The gun is the great equalizer.

With a gun my 72 year old mother can stop the biggest baddest rapist in the nation with just a squeeze of the trigger.
 
It is sickening to hear so many politicians in so many urban areas - East, West and all in between - so blithely willing to trade away fundamental liberties - whether it be RKBA, search and seizure, or any number of other freedoms (even to have as large a soda as one wants) - for the sake of convenience and "safety".

The words of Ben Franklin need to be repeated often ... "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 
The thing is, Koch, Bloomberg, etc., are perfectly in sync with their NYC constituents. They're politicians, after all. This goes to show that we have two very different cultures in this country. Each side tends to speak only with its like-minded friends -- they cannot conceive that the other side's views are sane, let alone valid. This is a very bad omen. Countries have broken apart over just such things.
 
mrreynolds said:
Aside from regulated hunting exceptions and those individuals who are deemed in danger by the police commissioner, all U.S. civilians should be banned from owning any kind of gun, argued former New York City Mayor Ed Koch in a radio interview today.

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Do these idiots not realize that doing something like that would cause A LOT more violence than is currently going on right now?

It would be an invitation to a civil war
 
Just sound bites to garner votes and support for future office positions. He knows something like that is only fantasy. I wonder how many armed guards escort him during his day of preaching about gun control.


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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Anyone running for public office should have to complete a college course on Constitutional Law, and PASS.
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Unfortunately he actually knows what he was talking about. He advocated overriding the Heller vs DC via an additional amendment. While we're not anywhere close to it yet, constitutional amendments can be overridden by subsequent ones.


The 21st amendment is:

The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

If they had the support in congress, they could absolutely pass a similar bill repealing the 2nd amendment and it would be legally binding. They'd need a 2/3rds majority vote from both the House and the Senate and then 3/4's of all the states would also have to vote for it, but it would be legal.

Thankfully we're a LONG way from gun ownership being that unpopular though, and though its been done before (as shown above), actually repealing one of the original 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights would be a very, VERY major undertaking.
 
A simpler solution - no one running for any public office can be an attorney; anyone advocating taking away rights is to be found guilty of treason - and punished accordingly
 
mgmorden said:
actually repealing one of the original 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights would be a very, VERY major undertaking.
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Exactly...they might as well go into the National Archives afterward and pull the Bill of Rights out of its container and cross it off with a red pen
 
Who are these NY people telling the whole country not to own guns? No way that will happen in Big Texas !
 
Just sound bites to garner votes and support for future office positions.
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Exactly which votes is Ed Koch trying to garner these days? I don't think he's too worried about future office positions. :confused:
 
It's funny how politicians in the most firearms repressive places in the US like NYC, Chicago, and Washington, always seem to want to argue that their vision for gun control and crime suppression keeps failing because people outside those urban paradises are have access to guns which spoils their local efforts.
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Yeah, I had that debate a while back...

Them: Well if guns didn't flow from Va into DC we wouldn't have this problem.
Me: But that's illegal right, to bring guns from anywhere into DC?
Them: Yeah, exactly.
Me: Sounds like you need to address those DC criminals who are breaking your laws and stop blaming Virginia.
Them: I don't understand your point.
 
Better suggestion. Anyone running for office must pre-sign a resignation letter that is effective upon any effort against the Constitution. It is to be held by a Constitutionalist. Once it is determined that the elected official has strayed, the letter is turned in, throwing that individual out of office.
 
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Better suggestion. Anyone running for office must pre-sign a resignation letter that is effective upon any effort against the Constitution. It is to be held by a Constitutionalist. Once it is determined that the elected official has strayed, the letter is turned in, throwing that individual out of office.
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We already HAVE a system in place for this. It's called TREASON.

Apparently, we're just not executing enough politicians nowadays - as they obviously don't fear committing treasonous acts.
 
Here's an idea:

If you state openly that you favor restricting the kinds of arms, ammo capacity, etc. that are available to the American people, you thereby legally place that same restriction upon yourself and your armed security team.
 
C'mon guys, we've been living with this in Illinois for decades.

Citizens aren't allowed to protect themselves, cops and politicians ARE.

Can't you see how well it's worked out here?
 
let's advocate that his bodyguard detail be limited to clubs, tasers, and knives, too. Why should he enjoy armed protection BEYOND what the common folk have? Let's see how comfortable he feels in Central Park at night with NO security detail, packing his own pepper spray!
 
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let's advocate that his bodyguard detail be limited to clubs, tasers, and knives, too.
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Hey in ancient Rome, if you held a political office, you were allowed a certain number of guards with clubs(bundle of sticks actually). The higher your rank, the more guards with clubs you could have. If you held a high enough ranking, your guards could put axes in their bundle of sticks (outside of the boundaries of the city of Rome), signifying that you had the right to tell them to execute people.

Those bundles of sticks were called fasces, from which the word fascism derived. Koch and Bloomberg seem pretty fascist to me.

US. Congress has fasces with axes attached on the wall

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I thought the Sullivan Act was put in place to help a corrupt mayor make it easier to keep "his completion" from getting an upper hand. So, in essence, is Koch promoting a corrupt government?

Chuck
 
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