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Experience with BERSA ?...

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The 380 seems to be real popular. I've been considering a 9mm compact purchase lately. Currently, I own a couple makarovs and pocket pistol. However, I want to start doing some local IDPA comps. I know the alot of guys are going with the full size pistols...but honestly the mak is the biggest thing I would ever consider carrying...I mostly only carry the pocket one. The bersa mini seems like a good 9mm alternative. My first thought was to go with the CZs...but the Bersa 9m seems to carry better for me. but...I'd much rather have the thinner single stack as my IDPA/CCW....

Does anyone have any experience with the 9mm Bersa Compact shooting IDPA. Any alternatives. I'd like it to be as close to my mak as possible.

Thanks
 
GZOh,

I've got my life on the line with a Bersa 380 cc riding inside my waistband. Tested all-OK with Speer Gold Dots.

burningsquirrels. :)
 
Just got back from the range....I LOVE my new Bersa Thunder 380! I ran 60 rounds through - some fmj and some Speer Gold Dots - NO malfs, just good shooting! I am going to be buying more Bersa's!
 
I loved my Bersa .380 and I never had a need for customer service as the firearm functioned flawlessly.

As my confidence in the 9mm round waned I realized that the .380 was not likely to see much carry so I sold her. Fit and finish were on par with a sub-$300 firearm but reliability was 100% without question. She digested anything - no FTFs or FTEs. Mags were expensive and good concealment holsters (other than nylon and kydex) were difficult to find. The .380 is not an economical round but I might consider another Bersa .380 some day if I have disposable income.
 
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25' or 30' fast fire, i forget. draw and shoot one round as fast as i can without aiming.

i don't know about you guys, but i hate (paying for) carry ammo trials... :D
 
I've had three of them. The first one, a .380, I traded for a S&W J-frame. That first one had the annoying habit of spitting burning gunpowder back onto my wrist when I shot it. (Not fun.:scrutiny:) I didn't think I'd buy another, but eventually got to thinking about a 9mm in that size, and got the Bersa 9 with a double-stack mag. Loved it. I eventually gave it to my middle son for his car gun. Then went and bought another Bersa .380 which is now usually MY car gun, but sometimes my carry gun.

It shoots very well, is not too much recoil at all, and I've never had a problem.

It isn't sleek and sexy looking like a Walther (mine's all black, not duo-tone) but it shoots just as well as something more expensive.

Especially considering their price, they're a great gun and a great buy.

Springmom
 
Yep. Solid, High Quality, Dependable.

Yeah, I bought a Bersa 383 (.380) maybe 16-18 years ago, shot a bucket of ammo through it, gave it away to a friend who needed one.

No malfunctions. Can't speak for the customer service department - never needed anyway. It was well built, tight, and maybe not as pretty as a Belgian Browning (remember those?) but it was very reasonably priced. I'd buy another one and carry it CCW if I needed another one that size.
 
I have had my Thunder for about 10 years and never had a problem. The grip is a bit large for me, but that is my only complaint. Sure would like to see one made in single stack so it will fit my hand better. Check out www.bersatalk.com.
 
I have a 45 UC and it has been perfect, Bersa seems to be the best budget handgun, Ruger may be better not sure but i prefer feel and look of Bersa
 
Bersa is an ok gun but Ive only had mine for about a year although I did notice I get better groups from my XD9 than from the Thunder 9. But for the price the .25inch difference isnt really that bad.
 
When I bought my Bersa last week the gun shop had that PA-63 Mak in there - Was toying with getting that...$199 on the tag.
 
My Bersa Thunder 380 has been 100% reliable. I wouldn't mind buying another Bersa except that they started putting those internal locks in them now.
 
I have a Bersa Model 86. This was a predecessor to today's Thunder 380 Plus. I have about 1000 rounds through it, and it only gets better with time. I did have to polish the feed ramp to get it to feed hollow points reliably. But 5 minutes with a Dremel tool is no big deal, and you've got to do it with a lot of pistols anyways.

I think the ergonomics of the pistol are superior. It fits my hand better than any other pistol I've held. The double action trigger pull is actually quite decent, and the single action is very nice. I shoot it better than I shoot any of my other pistols.

As for feeling like "pot metal", mine is certainly not that way at all. While it definitely doesn't remind me of looking at a Purdy shotgun's fit and finish, it is not bad at all. Mine has a nickel finish which has been extremely durable. The pistol is all metal, and if you ever ran out of ammo (and there's a lot of it for a pistol this small) then it's dang sure sturdy enough to pistol whip the heck outta someone.

In fact, I can't think of anything I really dislike about it.
 
Ok Bersa are a fine pistool the 9/40/45 now come with 2 mags not one If mermber of Bersa talk I can get you 10% on bersa mags and other items in the online store.
I passed the 4000 member mark yester and were still growing.
ON BT we give in drawings Mags grips patches and so on away .
So want to know about Bersa then come to the board for Bersa and its owners.
http://bersatalk.com
 
I have experience with the 380 Thunder and Thunder+(15-shot.) they work fine and give you lots of gun for the money. Lifetime warranty and very good customer service...a thing sadly lacking for many companies. Probably one of the best buys around.:)
 
I have a Bersa Thunder 9 Ultra Compact that has been through a few thousand +P rounds...and its still going strong.

I carried it as my CCW for 3 years with no problems...I only switched because a 1911 felt so good in my hand, and that is not to say the Bersa didn't feel good...its just that my Baer feels better.

I'm not so crazy about the 380's...the safety is awkward.
 
My wife wanted a carry gun, and fell in love with a Bersa thunder in .380 a mutual friend had showed her at the range. He was complaining about how much of a piece of junk it was ( he bought it used), and asked if I wanted it for 125 bucks. I said sure, knowing that Bersa had a lifetime warranty.

Went home and tore it down, and it was absolutely filthy. Gave it a good cleaning, and lubricatin, and back to the range we go.

Neither me nor my wife have had a single problem with that gun since. It is a great little shooter, and my wife has a gun she loves to shoot.

What more can a fella ask for?:)
 
Thanks...

Thanks again, for all the BERSA input!!...

I guess the 'bottom-line' is that BERSA definitely makes a quality gun for the money... and that very few of the owners, have had any major problems with their guns.

Gonna keep my eyes open for a good price on that full-size Thunder-9.

Thanks.
 
price and quality

There hard to beat especially in the .380.

Why do they need to be machined from titanium
with a lower power round of a 380?

I got mine used and dirty. Striped and detail cleaned.
NOT 1 ftf in 500 rds.
 
I handled a Bersa Thunder .380 at a show yesterday mostly because I was curious about why all the enthusiam for Bersa guns. I'd never seen one 'in person' before.

I thought it was a cheap pistol with the feel of some of the potmetal junk that used to be available before somebody clued in legislators to the concept of a "Saturday Night Special". A good plastic or 'tupperware' pistol is a better buy than one that's got a chance to crack and be useless at any moment of firing.

I won't be owning any Bersa guns and I've got more than 200 handguns currently.

It doesn't cost THAT much more to buy a quality pistol made from good steel or alloy. It might SEEM like a lot but IMO guns like Bersas end up costing much more by not lasting the lifetime that a good one can last.

Do Bersa owners get "Bersitis"? It's a very painful condition in another spelling.
(Bursitis - something to avoid).

Well, you did ask...

Krs

I suspect you handled something else, not a Bersa....otherwise your comment about potmetal junk is totally wrong.

I owned and still own several handguns, from high price to economical and I can unequivocally say that Bersas are at the moment the best deal for the money....opinion of other owners and people that got to know these pistols.

My daily winter CCW carry is a Thunder 40, which I absolutely love, light and compact despite being a full size combat pistol, extremely balanced and deadly accurate.....never malfunctioned.

Steel and alloy quality are on par with any other manufacturers.

I heard Customr Service is excellent (I never did need it) and you can call several different locations not only one in case of need.
Life warranty, +P rated.

The "problem" is that the company does not spend one penny in advertisement so you need to be a real firearm connoiseur to appreciate them.

I do not want to spend thousands of dollars for a reliable handgun because of fancy web sites, glossy advertisement and paid "expert" reviews in specialized publications...sorry

An other reason for their lower cost is that BERSA does not invest much in R&D but rather use other companies (mainly Walther..Beretta in the past) as source of technical "inspiration". The Thunder 380 is basically a clone of the Walther PPK and the Thunders full size have lot of the mechanics in common with the Walther P-88.
On top of that, they are produced in Argentina and Brazil where cost of labor is less.

In firearms stores Bersas are sold out more often than not, the little Thunder 380 is immensely popular, literally it flies off the shelves and for a very good reason....aestetically appealing, extremely reliable, high quality and inexpensive...

A fellow shooter and regular SIG carrier at the range where I go fell in love with my Thunder and wanted to buy the 9 mm version....he had to back order it.

The only downsides are:

1) Exterior finishing is not on par with Kimber, Beretta, SIG and the like...few tooling marks here and there...but overall more than perfectly acceptable...and Bersas come with a cheap cardbord box, nothing fancy......well if you want to spend double for a nice plastic case and more jewel like exterior finishing, get a SIG....more power to you.

2) Expensive original magazines....BUT TOP NOTCH quality of construction...high grade springs and stainless steel followers instead of plastic ones like everybody else....so I don't know how much of a downside this really is.

GZOh

You cannot go wrong with the Thunder full size (9 or 40), IMHO they are among the most visually appealing combat pistols in the market at the moment, simply, you cannot beat the quality, features and reliability for the money.
The Thunder 9 is the official handgun of the Argentinian Armed Forces and Argentina Federal Police.
Several other Police Forces across Latin America use either the Thunder 9 or 40.

The last time I fell for the "myth of the brand" (Tanfoglio aka EAA in US) I had a horrible experience, crappy, or better said, non-existant customer service and continuous malfunctioning...I had to get rid of it.

This is my Thunder 40



If you want to know more about BERSA you can go here. The company has been in business for more than 50 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BERSA

and here for more about the Thunder full size

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BERSA_Thunder_9

By the way BERSA won several IPSC competition too.....
 
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I've owned a Bersa semi auto in .380 acp. It was an impulse buy. It is a 3" fixed barrel, single stack (6-8 rnds) all steel gun. It's heavy for its small size and well made in Brazil. It came w/ just 1 mag, extra mags costed $40 each (which is 20% of the new gun's price). It functioned flawlessly and was easy to shoot.

I sold it since I didn't want to buy its overpriced magainzes and .380acp ammo is costly and not interesting to shoot. Basically I didn't need it. It sold quickly and I only lost $20ish in the transaction -- very good for a new gun. So they seem to keep their value.
 
Do a search om my user name to let you know how excellent my Bersa pistols have been.
I have 4 (3 9mms and 1 .22 and although the .22 is balky with lower vel ammo the 9mms have been 100%)
 
I only have 1 Bersa, it is a .380 Thunder, great little gun, very accurate and fun to shoot. Have never had any problems with it and has a lifetime warranty.
 
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