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Father shoots at robbers

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by acdodd, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. acdodd

    acdodd Well-Known Member

  2. HighVelocity

    HighVelocity Well-Known Member

    Good to read that none of the good guys were injured. Hopefully the police will find the robbers quickly before they try again on somebody less prepared.
  3. Jubei

    Jubei Well-Known Member

    I'm glad that nobody (good guys that is) was hurt. They could probably identify the Chevy by the skid marks left in the seats.

  4. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    The headline:

    I'm real tired of dummies and leftists trying to portray people who save their lives with firearms as vigilantes.
  5. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

  6. Bart Noir

    Bart Noir Well-Known Member

    I just sent this message to the reporter:

    "Hi, as a shooter and gun owner and believer in the Second Amendment, I think you wrote a good article. But I take exception with the headline, knowing that you may not have had any say in how that part was written.

    My exception is that this was simply not a case of "taking the law into his own hands". If he detained (arrested) or pursued it might have been. But simple self-defense is not any sort of vigilante action. He was attacked with deadly force and he defended and there was not any element of our judicial system (or "law") involved. People have a right to self-defense that is above any law, according to our Constitution, which affirms that this right is not to be infringed on.

    Anyway, keep up the good reporting."

    And soon got this reply:

    Mr. Buell did nothing illegal by taking "the law into his own hands." He did act immediately by shooting at would-be robbers, one of whom was holding a gun to his son's head. One can have the police take the law in their hands, or one can act in self-defense and take the law in their own hands. The latter was Mr. Buell's appropriate course of action and that action was correctly characterized in the headline.
    Barbara Morgan
    Executive Editor

    I guess she wrote that headline! Wonder what she thinks it takes to go from "would-be robbers" to actual robbers. I refrain from making negative comments on her views, 'cause I know y'all can just fill in the blanks.

    Bart Noir
  7. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    Self-defense is is a right. Anyone may exercise that right without special permission from the police, government or legal system.

    The statement "Taking the law into his hands" implies that he has usurped or taken over the duty or responsibility of the legal system, or is operating within a realm that is exclusively the jurisdiction of law enforcement. That is not the case.

    Self-defense is not the special right of the state nor does it fall within the unique jurisdiction of the police. Therefore when a citizen exercises his right to self defense, he is NOT "taking the law into his own hands". One might as well accuse a newspaper editor of "taking the law into her own hands" for exercising her right of free speech. It would be a misnomer of equal magnitude.

    Furthermore, there is a strong sense of wrongdoing wrapped up in the phrase "taking the law into his own hands". We all know that self-defense is a legal act. Therefore it should not be tainted with a label that implies that it is not.

    And by the way, while they might fit the description of "would-be robbers" it would be more accurate to call them "would-be armed robbers" or better yet, "violent criminals".

    (Just in case you were going to write her back, I thought I'd give you a head start on your reply...) ;)
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2005
  8. 7.62x54r

    7.62x54r Well-Known Member

    Chalk one up for the good guys.But up here in Canada,The person defending his propety will be going to jail and the bad guys will be getting a handshake and will be told sorry that they were shot and recived money for pain and sufering and the person who shot you will be going to jail :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
  9. drinks

    drinks member

    Another good reason to give Canada back to the French! :rolleyes:
  10. Darth Ruger

    Darth Ruger Well-Known Member

    I've never responded to articles such as this one, but I couldn't help myself this time.

    She's got it all wrong. This sentence demonstrates that she doesn't know what she's talking about. Taking the law into your own hands is illegal, and that's not what he did. I just sent this email to the author of that article and spelled it out as clearly as I could:
    I also sent one to the editor, but modified to be directed at her and the newpaper:
    This obvious lack of knowledge of the law and the misinterpretation of it by the public, as demonstrated above by the editor, has finally broken my 'fed up' barrier. If she or the author of the article reply to my email with more self-contradicting gobbledygook like that, I'm going to reply and keep hammering away at it with as many emails as it takes until I break through that sugar-coated shell of blissninnnyism they've chosen to hide themselves in.

    And I'll win. My 'written argument/debate' teacher in college didn't call me the best student he ever had for nothing. Anti's of the world, watch out. You've finally pushed my button. It's time for me to get active in the war against the anti's. Now I'm in the mood to take on Sarah Brady, and I know I could whoop her, too. :fire:

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