FFL to FFL then to me. How does it work?

[Hokkmike]

If you are buying a gun from a person in another state does it have to be sent to your FFL from their FFL? Can a private individual not send a gun, let's say a rifle, DIRECTLY to an FFL where the buyer can pick it up after paying the fee?

 

[Winchester 73]

Yes.See ATF rules:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]


A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]



(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]


(B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? [Back]


Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

 

[waterhouse]

Can a private individual not send a gun, let's say a rifle, DIRECTLY to an FFL where the buyer can pick it up after paying the fee?

By Federal law, and in most states, a non-dealer may ship a gun directly to a dealer, and the dealer may then transfer the gun. I have heard that some states require guns to come shipped from a dealer to a dealer only, but I've never confirmed this (since I'm a dealer I haven't taken the time to research it as it does not apply to me.)

I have spoken with many dealers who have a store policy to only accept guns from other dealers. You need to check with your specific dealer and ask about their policies.

 

[Winchester 73]

$6 FFL transfers In Pflugerville, TX

$6.00 dollars!Lowest locally is 25.
Can you re-locate to Miami?

 

[kingpin008]

No way, it's too hot im Miami! Come to Maryland!

 

[Winchester 73]

No way, it's too hot im Miami! Come to Maryland!

You may be right,but I've lived in Annapolis with temps reaching 100 degrees.
Speaking of Annapolis,the next time I'm there, we should get together at the Rams Head,33 West Street,my favorite watering hole,one block from St.Annes Church and bury the hatchet.

 

[kingpin008]

Fair enough. But it's gotta be at the Ellicott Mills Brewing Company instead. Beer I've ever had. (And I used to work there, so I was able to take my time and do some pretty extensive "taste testing", heh.)

 

[Winchester 73]

But it's gotta be at the Ellicott Mills Brewing Company instead.

An excellent choice.You are the local ,so you call the shot.I also lived in Columbia and Dundalk ,so I won't need Mapquest to get to historic Ellicott City.
Looking forward to it.Will be going to D.C. later this year.Will PM you.

http://www.ellicottmillsbrewing.com/

 

[hill billy]

Can anyone comment on this requirement in California? I have been told that handguns coming in to CA MUST be shipped from a dealer.

 

[Winchester 73]

hill billy,here's some info:

http://www.dechielfirearms.com/Buying On Line.htm

 

[hill billy]

From your link

Once you have determined that the gun is legal in California, you can complete the purchase with the seller. This usually involves sending them a check, money order or credit card information to complete the transaction. They will have to ship the gun to a Federal Firearms Dealer in your area to transfer the gun into your possession. The FFL dealer will have to FAX a copy of his license to the shipping dealer before they will ship the gun. You will need to provide the FAX number to your dealer or if the shipper does not have a FAX, your dealer will need a mailing address of the shipper so a copy of his FFL can be mailed to the shipper.
If you are purchasing the gun from a private individual and it is merely being shipped by a dealer, I will not collect sales tax if the private party seller will include a copy of the sales receipt showing the purchase price, the model of the firearm with serial number, a statement that he is selling the gun to you, that he is not a dealer, and listing his name and address.

It's really not terribly clear. It seem to suggest that it must be shipped from an ffl to an ffl but doesn't really address a PP to the ffl of my choice. MAybe I'm just missing it.

Based on another link

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.
(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?

A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

So the question is if CA has imposed different limitations on the subject, if so I cannot find anything on the CA DOJ website.