Finally: taking out .300 H&H Mag.

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Sounds like a good day out :) I sort of wish I could have gone along. I'd like to "feel the thump" right about now, but I got other issues burning up the clock. Oh well, life has it's ups and downs. Seems like Joed had an up day - good one :)
 
First of all, Nice rifles joed :cool:.
What type of scope are you using on your .300 H&H?
Also, 3/4" groups are impressive; just wondering what range/distance did you use :confused: ?

@john wall, Thanks for sharing about the shell holders. Learn something new everyday ;):).

@BrocLuno, These H&H Magnums do "thump"...even with magnaport and recoil pad, it lets you know it's there :eek: . Gotta love it :evil:.
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Thanks talldragon. The scope is an old Vari-X 1 3x9 Leupold that I bought when I got the rifle. I didn't think it would hold up but it has. My range only has 100 yards for rifle as do most around here. I'd kill to have the range in your picture.

After firing this cartridge again I realized I need to go hunting with it. That was the initial plan when I bought it but I've just never gone out. This year I'm going to plan for it as I have a few friends that ask from time to time.

So far I've shot 165 gr Sierras and Noslers, 180 gr Sierras and 200 gr Sierras with it. All seem to shoot just as well, the rifle has showed no preference on what it likes. That 200 gr bullet has some pretty stout recoil, I think I may be able to cut the group down a little more once I get used to the rifle again.
 
Wow, only 100yds :what:? That projectile is still rising at that point; isn't it :scrutiny: .

I know my rifle was shooting high at the 100yd berm (no apparent wind that day), so I switched (dialed-in scope accordingly) to 250yds and it was dead-on (for elevation only; had to hold slightly left-bottom corner of main crosshairs. Windage is a little off).

The range in the picture is a half day's drive from my house.
There is a gun club owned facility that is only 45 mins. away that goes out to 1000yds; but it is a member only rifle range and not cheap.
Then again, what is anymore :eek:.

I will take the rifle back out in a month or so; maybe more like six weeks.
Hopefully I will know more about the scope by then and how to get it 100% dialed-in (that double-horizontal crosshair baffles me; I asked about it over in accessories).

Maybe we should start a "club" thread just for us .300 H&H Magnum owners.
Can't really be brand specific, a lot of companies have chambered for this round since it was introduced in 1920. Maybe we shoud call it the "Super .30" club? :scrutiny:

Sorry, too much thinking out loud :eek:. Thanks for your patience all! :)
 
I think an H&H club would be a splendid idea :)

Show pics of the guns, so that those of use with a H&H build coming in the future will have ideas. Range reports and reloading info - all good :)
 
That 26 inch tube looks looooong. But that 300H&H is one heck of a round. I didn't know Savage made a rifle in that caliber (and I have a Savage in .375 H&H).
 
I don't think Savage chambers a rifle in .300 H&H. My guess is that is custom, which in my opinion makes it even neater yet.

Last year I was looking for a .220 Swift from Savage. They no longer make one but can do almost anything within reason from their custom shop.
 
QUESTION?

I have like I posted earlier, A Pre 64 Winny in 300 H&H. I inherited this rifle from my FIL. It is in very good condition but not perfect with normal dents, dings and bluing wear. A buddy did say when he looked at it said he has only seen Win 300H&H rifles in this condition in museums. Jess, My FIL would often complain about guys chasing him around trying to buy it off of him when out hunting. This rifle has not seen a scope or even scope mounts. I would like to at some point hunt with the 300. I don’t think I would be able to hold well enough with irons at ranges the rifle is capable of. Would you use 1 of 2 ‘06’s I have or scope the 300 and never go back to the clean receiver top? The biggest game I’ve hunted with a modern rifle is deer. If I scope the 300 it would be for Elk at a further distance my smoke pole goes out to. What do you guys think? Thanks in advance.
 
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P-32, i would get a good set of mounts and rings, and a scope that compliment the rifle. I dont think that would cause any type of value loss. a classic lookin 2-7 or 3-9 would be all you really need on that gun, or even a fixed 6.
 
P-32 I would at least put a 3x9 on that Winchester which is what I have on my Classic. I feel for a larger game rifle that is all that's needed. After all you're not shooting at golf balls. The higher scopes like 24x I have are reserved for my varmint and target rifles. Still I do entertain putting a 24x on that H&H to see what it is capable of.

If it wasn't for a pre 64 model 70 I never would have gotten my Classic. The previous owner bought the Classic, used it for hunting one season and put it up for sale when he found the Winchester. I still remember asking my friend who was part owner of a gunshop what he had in used rifles. I wanted a .30-06 or 7mm RM. When he saw the H&H he knew it was his partners rifle and was surprised. I bought it on the spot.

Any chambering in .300 H&H is somewhat rare as you don't see them very often at all. Talldragon's Savage is something I've never seen and I'd love to have that rifle. I suspect that was a custom chambering.

I used to be a big fan of wood stocks till I got my first synthetic. That rifle came with the barrel free floated and just shot so much better then any wood stocked rifle I ever owned. But wood sure looks nice. I used to sit there and think about how ugly synthetic was when I first got it, but after a while it grew on me. And I found the rifle with synthetic stock got used more. All my newer rifles from the last 5 years are not wood.
 
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@Dr.Rob, AFIK; They don't :uhoh: .

@ P-32, A pre-64 Winchester in .300 H&H ... :cool:. That's definitely a keeper :D.
Got any pics ? Or maybe save 'em for our upcoming "club" thread ;) .

@joed, You have assumed correctly. My Savage 110e was a custom build for it's previous owner.
Thanks for the link :) . Interesting article.
 
300H&H looks really cool, but I so want a 375H&H. Not that I need one mind you, no Cape Buffalo in Colorado. But I just really want one. I have a thing for cool old calibers.

And if you want a thump try a 470NE sometime. It is not nearly as bad as one would think.
 
Regarding that Winchester 300 H&H - I'd scope it so you could do just what you said, go Elk hunting :) It's less than useful in current condition unless you want to go to Africa and use it on Cape Buffalo or something, then the Irons may make some sense?

BUT, I'd be real careful about the scoping process. It's a valuable rifle in terms of both money and what it will do. So I'd plan it out accordingly:

1.) I would not "over scope" it - likely a 2.5~8x32 or something. Yeah, the round will reach out there, but it is not built as a match rifle, so I'd be real conservative as to what I put on it.

2.) I'd scope for the Elk Hunt weather. Cold and blowy, humidity and temp changes in and out of camp, so I'd use a Bushnell Elite with RainGuard as the actual hunt scope. I might have something else for show when not elk hunting. The upside is a generous "eye box" (exit pupil) so that you can get on target with a hood or hats, etc. The bummer is 3.3 inches of eye relief and that may not be enough?

If that does not work out, my next choice would be a Leupold as they have almost as good wet weather lens coatings and are good scopes too :) They will give you more eye relief and that may be the deciding factor. Either have good warranties.

3.) I'd be real picky about the scope mounts. That's a fine rifle and it deserves to have fine mounts, well installed. Talley's or Cone-Trol would probably be my first pick - they are both steel. Cone-Trol will be smooth rings without screws showing, and if installed correctly and loc-tited down, they will be with you for the whole deal. IF you are not comfortable doing the work, I'd get a real good gunsmith who knows Cone-Trol to do the install. They are not as straight forward as a say a set of Weaver Bases. The upside is they never snag on anything and they look as if they were/are part of the rifle. They also seldom work loose, and they are both known to handle this level of recoil energy.

If the rifle has any engraving, I'd be having the rings done to match and blued to match. All up, this will not degrade the value of the rifle at all. Oh yeah, to a pure collector maybe a few $$, but to a hunter it would be the cats meow. You think you have hunters asking to buy the rifle now, wait until it's scoped correctly and on the hunt - you'll get more offers :)

I would not sell it unless my kid needed an operation or something. I'd just keep it as a family heir loom and pass it around as folks want a big hunt gun :D
 
joed:
Great read in the article.

BrocLuno:
I've not (yet) owned a .300 H&H Mag, but plan to one day. I have had two .375 H&H Mags, and wow are they impressive. Without doubt, it is more than I need in Michigan.

To be certain, there are other .308 and .375 caliber magnums that out-perform the H&Hs, but not one of them carries the romance of safaris from years past. My Uncle Dave has a Mark X in .300 H&H Mag and would never sell it. Well, I enjoyed this thread...a lot!!! Thanks to the OP for creating it.

Geno
 
BrocLuno:
Thanks for asking. I have really missed hanging out more here at THR!!! I've had a lengthy past half-year. I relocated, thank goodness. Then, I had a surgery about 2 months back to remove significant scar tissue. Relocation is done, but still not unpacked. :eek: The surgery went well, and recovery is going well.

On the good side of it all, I did manage to get in the 2011 deer season between the relocation and surgery, and bagged a nice buck at about 10:30a on opening day. :D On the best side, last week the surgeon cleared me to return to regular activity. Time for a run to the farm for ping some steel with a friend.

Geno
 
Quite a few of the early model 70's were not designed for scope use in that the drop of the stock was designed to get on the iron sights. If you have one of these early ones then you should plan on a lace on pad to get your face up to scope level and get a good cheek weld. FRJ
 
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