Finally took my CCW course this weekend (TX)

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Took it at Red's Indoor Range (North) Saturday, 8AM -10:30PM.

Pretty interesting, actually. Although I (thanks to THR!) already knew a lot of the material in the course, it was still pretty neat.

18 students, of which I was the youngest (24). A few people at retirement age, most right around 30. 15 men, 3 women (all of which were there with their spouse). Everyone qualified semi-auto (in Texas, you can either do SA or Revolver; SA lets you carry either, Revolver means revolvers only).

Guns used were also somewhat surprising - 3 USPs (!), 3 Beretta 92s, 1 1911 (Kimber Custom), 4 Ruger P-xx autos, 3 Glocks, 2 S&W autos, and 1 Browning HiPower (me!). I expected more Glocks, actually.

The shooting portion was pretty easy - 20 shots 3yd, 20 shots 7yd, 10 shots 15yd. I felt very glad I was using a Hipower, since the guns had to be returned to 'carry state' after each string (and many of the strings were 1 shot). I think a lot of the mediocre shooting was because of all the DA/SAs, and the fact that the various shooters weren't used to shooting them in DA mode. I shot a 243 out of 250 (would have been a 248 but I had one shot fired out of sequence, which took 5 points off of my score). The guy I was sitting next to scored the highest with a 249, using a USP tactical in .45ACP. He was really good (later found out he shoots IDPA :) ) Just guessing, the average score was probably about a 200. Only one person failed to qualify, and she came back and reshot while we broke for lunch and passed.

The classroom portion of the training was kept interesting by the instructor and his teaching methods. He had a lot of funny stories, jokes, sayings, etc. that helped balance the rather dull material. He also used a lot of 'scenarios' to illustrate his points, and also did a couple of variants of the Tueller Drill.

Written test was embarassingly easy - not that I was surprised. I think the lowest score in the class was a 98 :rolleyes:

Then came all the administrative rigamarole - notarizing, fingerprinting, pictures, etc. Fortunately, this instructor was authorized to do all that, so the class really was a "one-stop-shop" for CHL licensing.

Dropped the package off in person at the DPS campus, Bldg G this morning. 60 days from now I will be lawfully carrying :cool:

Overall, an expensive and time-consuming process (Class: $150; License: $140; Holsters: :uhoh: ) but well worth it. If anyone else in the Greater Austin area is looking to get their CHL training out of the way, I recommend the classes offered at Red's Indoor Range
 
Overall, an expensive and time-consuming process (Class: $150; License: $140; Holsters: ) but well worth it.

1. Good for you!

2. If carrying a concealed firearm saves you even a hassle a single time, you'll probably consider it one of the best investments you've ever made.
 
Wow, expensive class.
Also, anyone know the standards the range portion has to go by in Texas? In our class I don't think reshooting the qualifier was an option. And any shots out of string were and automatic disqualification (i.e. shoot 5 shots within 10 seconds and you fire off 6). We also didn't have to return the gun to carry mode before each string, just hold at low ready. I'm curious as to how much discretion each instructor has as to how they operate the range qualification.
 
You're right, Dorrin79. A Texas CHL doesn't come cheap. I was out some $450 by the time I wrapped up the course (what with license, affadavits, photos, prints, ammo, etc.). But as you said, it's well worth the expense.

I separately bought PI/PD coverage ($$) with a self-defense rider (more $$$, Argh!!). What else do they want? Skin off my nose? :fire:

Anyway, I'm glad for you. Congrats!


Drizzt: Moscow, TX. Is that the little town someone passing through might miss if they blink? The one with the dinosaur statue by the roadside? I didn't blink, so I stopped and got my picture taken next to it. Nice area, I must say. Lots of greenery*. :cool:


~ Heraclitus



*Ah live in the deh-zur.


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Changing Texas CHL Class Demographics

The first time I took the class (at Carter Country north of Houston) in spring of 2000 it was all white males, mostly aged 45-55. I recently took my refresher at the same place for renewal, which actual just turned out to be the last 5 or so hours of the regular class. It was interesting to see that the average age this time looked to be a lot younger, early 30's, and there was a mixture of white, black, and hispanic.

BTW, I did the first part of the renewal online, which I was told would help speed up the process. My renew permit arrived in 35 days after I mailed the packet whereas my original took 64 days to get back to me.
 
Synoptic -

huh. I guess it is instructor's discretion then. Mine was definitely tougher than I expected - all those short strings (and loud whistles) kept me from getting in my Zen place :eek: My one 'out of sequence' was due to a stovepipe; by the time I cleared it and fired the whistle was blowing to end the string...

The instructor did say that "you can shoot the qualifier up to three times today" without specifying what would happen if you failed it all three times...

Heraclitus -

If you don't mind my asking, who did you go to for PI/PD coverage? I want to have that lined up when i get my license.... How much is it (in round numbers - < or >$50 a month?)

Thanks...
 
Heraclitus -

Moscow on the Colorado is just my little endearing term for this little slice o' Heaven, Austin.....

Closest thing to communism in TX. Yeah, I really fit in here. :banghead:
 
Dorrin79:

I have coverage through the NRA Endorsed Insurance Program. Check the NRA's Member Benefits & Special Offers website for more information. This is what you'll find, in part:

Excess Personal Liability Limit Options

$100,000 limit @ $47/year
$250,000 limit @ $67/year

- Provides coverage for bodily injury or property damage caused by the use of a firearm, airgun, bow & arrow or trapping equipment when you are legally obligated for damages.

- Pays most defense costs in addition to liability limit -- even if lawsuit is false.

Self Defense Liability Limit Options

$100,000 Combined Single Limit with $50,000 criminal defense reimbursement sub-limit @ $165.00/year

$250,000 Combined Single Limit with $50,000 criminal defense reimbursement sub-limit @ $264.00/year

- Provides coverage up to the limit selected for bodily injury or property damage caused by an act of self-defense.

- Cost of civil suit defense is provided in addition to the limit of liability for bodily injury and property damage.

- Criminal Defense Reimbursement for alleged criminal actions involving
self-defense when you are acquitted of such criminal charges or the charges are dropped.



I went for maximum coverage in either case, so currently I pay $331/year. Hope I never have to use it -- but then neither would I want to fall short on the closing costs in the event I ever do.

Happy to oblige.


~ Heraclitus
 
$330 a year isn't too horrific. I mean, it's a lot of money, but not budget breaking by any stretch of the imagination...

Thanks for the info - maybe this will finally get me to join the NRA :D
 
Now that you have a CHL, you need to take advantage of the Austin area's fine training out of KRtraining.com - at www. krtraining.com.

It's wonderful to have a permit but it's better to have one plus some training about carrying. Esp. FOF. They are a great outfit.

No, I don't make any money from them. In fact, they have my money!
 
CHL instructor here (since inception in '95). Students supposed to get 3 chances to pass on written test and/or "demonstration of proficiency". The timing of such is at instructor discrection.

Shooting to begin from low-ready position - with handgun in normal carry mode. Which can be a disadvantage for some folks who are not well acclimated to their decockers ...
 
Welcome to CHL. As previously stated, get yourself some training and keep practicing. Check out Tiger Valley...they have a facility in the Waco area. Great people with real world experience...TJ is a Swat Officer, among other things of course.

Be safe!
 
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