Firearms registration effectiveness

[xm15]

Recently I came across the following items in an article concerning the recent DC court decision:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?page=article&Article_ID=14177

* Canada, which has registered handguns since the 1930s and all guns since 1998, recently admitted that it could not identify a single violent crime that had been solved because of registration.
* Hawaii, which has had registration and licensing for around 50 years and well-protected borders, has had the same experience.

Unfortunately, no sources were cited, other than the original Washington Times editorial.

Any suggestions for where I can start looking to verify the above statements?

 

[Art Eatman]

I don't know about such sources, but think about it this way: If the gun isn't left at the crime scene, registration does no good at that point in time. If you later arrest a suspect and find the gun, forensic testing is done to connect that gun with that crime. Again, what's the good of registration in solving that particular crime?

Even if you find a registered gun at a crime scene, all that's provable is that the gun at one time belonged to a certain person--who may not have been at, had nor used it at the scene. Sale, gift, loan, theft, etc.

All that registration does is enable confiscation.

Art

 

[xm15]

Oh, I understand the logic behind the ineffectiveness of firearms registration, I just want to find some legitimate sources to back it up.

 

[SIOP]

This, like the militia thing, is another pot that we don't need to be stirring, for two reasons:

1. The anti's can point to the ineffectiveness of registration as justification for outright bans of weapons.

2. The anti's can point to the effectivenss of registration of NFA weapons as justification for registration of all weapons.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Does registering cars prevent drunken driving?

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Check out http://www.guncite.com/ for a discussion of the effectiveness of firearms registration. Short version is that there is usually widespread non-compliance with registration and even where there is compliance the records have a significant error rate.

After the confiscations in other countries, the modern rate of non-compliance for registration has increased even more.

 

[Bob M.]

Saw this on another post....forget where though.

The Evolution of Gun Control:

1. Legislation
2. Registration
3. Confiscation
4. Extermination

 

[glummer]

SIOP

This, like the militia thing, is another pot that we don't need to be stirring, for two reasons:

I think that, like the militia thing, this pot is not as scary as you seem to concede:

1. The anti's can point to the ineffectiveness of registration as justification for outright bans of weapons.

And the same could be said of motor vehicle registration; would most people accept that as a plausible reason for an outright ban?
If the anti’s make such a point, they are
A) Admitting their past advice was (apparently) worthless;
B) Positioning themselves as extremists.
I don’t see that either of those is necessarily a problem for our side.

2. The anti's can point to the effectivenss of registration of NFA weapons as justification for registration of all weapons

Is NFA registration effective? By what measure? There are, it is true, virtually no crimes involving NFA registered guns, but so what? That amounts to “people who abide by the NFA laws don’t break other laws either” which is circular silliness.
Are non-registered NFA weapons being “controlled” by the law somehow? That would be the only real measure of "effectiveness."

 

[Matt King]

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[island]

* Canada, which has registered handguns since the 1930s and all guns since 1998, recently admitted that it could not identify a single violent crime that had been solved because of registration.

For backup on the above statement, which is quite true, see www.cdnshootingsports.org, www.canadiangunnutz.com, and www.nfa.ca

Drop me a PM if you need more specifics, but links and tons of articles/documents/stats are at any of the above links.

 

[xm15]

island: Thanks for the links.. After I take a look at those, I'll send you a PM.