First gun fitting.

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hannamichy

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Hi, everyone I am a lady looking to get my first gun. I have no idea on how to look for a gun that fits my small hands.
I have been to the shooting range once and shot a revolver and the other gun...I hated the kick back from the regular gun with the safety feature.
Any advice or pictures on how a gun is suppose to fit would help. Thank you

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hannaichy

When I was looking for something new and couldn't find a decent selection at the nearby gun shops, I use to go to the local gun shows. Usually there would be several large dealers there with some of them having a lot of new guns out on display for you to pick up and handle. I think it's a great way just to see if something even fits your hand properly without wasting too much time in the process.

And then when you do find a gun that seems like a good fit, write down the information on the gun and do some research online to see what kind of feedback is out there on it.
 
First things first, welcome to the forum, and welcome to the shooting community. My first suggestion is for you to make a day out of shopping. Handle a whole bunch of guns, try them out just by holding them in the store, and aiming it at something in the store ( preferably up high so others don't get nervous). If it feels ok then lower the gun, close your eyes and try to aim back at that same point with your eyes closed. Open your eyes and see how much you have to adjust to line the sights back up. If it's a small amount then the gun is a natural fit for you, and you will probably shoot it well.

One big thing I will caution you about is buying a small gun. Many of the small guns are very light which may feel good in the store, but will not feel good at the range. Think of it in terms of an auto accident. If your in a great big Lincoln or Cadillac and you are sitting still, and get hit from behind, it may jostle you around, but it probably won't hurt you. If your in a tiny car like a Yaris or Versa then that same car rear ending you is going to push your small car around and do more damage. Just like getting beat around in that tiny lightweight car, a lightweight gun moves around more under recoil, and in a standard caliber like 9mm or 38 spl it may be more than your wrists can take. If you go with a standard weight gun then the weight of the gun will help absorb part of that recoil and it will be much more pleasant to shoot, especially if you intend to shoot more than a dozen or so rounds each time you go to the range.

Another thing I will caution you about is buying a "pretty" gun. Since you are new to the sport you may find that your pretty new gun is not exactly what you want and you want to get something else. Standard colors sell fairly well to most buyers. A pink, or purple gun sells to a much more limited market.

Finally, I get to this...A 22lr pistol or revolver is a good way to learn to shoot. It is low recoil, cheap to shoot, fun, and builds skills quickly. I recommend going this route unless you are absolutely certain you want a bigger cartridge. If you do go the 22lr route, there are good offerings in the market by essentially everyone in the semiautomatic pistol world, but fewer options in the revolver world. A really good option in a revolver would be either of the small offerings from Ruger. A sp101 22 will not be cheap but it will last forever and be a great gun. The LCR 22 is a great gun if you want to eventually carry a gun for protection. It is much lighter than the sp101 and is very pleasant to shoot. A third option from Ruger would be a bearcat. They are small single action guns (cowboy style) which are a lot of fun, but don't lend themselves to being much in the line of a trainer for anything larger. Last but not least Ruger has the SR22 which is a semiauto, but it is light enough without being too light and is another good value in the current market. Again, handle everything and pick one that feels good.
 
I bought a Ruger LCR with an external hammer in .38 Special for my wife. I was surprised at its accuracy and mild recoil. The store I bought it from referred to it (jokingly) as a Little Crappy Revolver but I have been quite happy with it.
 
First things first, welcome to the forum, and welcome to the shooting community. My first suggestion is for you to make a day out of shopping. Handle a whole bunch of guns, try them out just by holding them in the store, and aiming it at something in the store ( preferably up high so others don't get nervous). If it feels ok then lower the gun, close your eyes and try to aim back at that same point with your eyes closed. Open your eyes and see how much you have to adjust to line the sights back up. If it's a small amount then the gun is a natural fit for you, and you will probably shoot it well.

One big thing I will caution you about is buying a small gun. Many of the small guns are very light which may feel good in the store, but will not feel good at the range. Think of it in terms of an auto accident. If your in a great big Lincoln or Cadillac and you are sitting still, and get hit from behind, it may jostle you around, but it probably won't hurt you. If your in a tiny car like a Yaris or Versa then that same car rear ending you is going to push your small car around and do more damage. Just like getting beat around in that tiny lightweight car, a lightweight gun moves around more under recoil, and in a standard caliber like 9mm or 38 spl it may be more than your wrists can take. If you go with a standard weight gun then the weight of the gun will help absorb part of that recoil and it will be much more pleasant to shoot, especially if you intend to shoot more than a dozen or so rounds each time you go to the range.

Another thing I will caution you about is buying a "pretty" gun. Since you are new to the sport you may find that your pretty new gun is not exactly what you want and you want to get something else. Standard colors sell fairly well to most buyers. A pink, or purple gun sells to a much more limited market.

Finally, I get to this...A 22lr pistol or revolver is a good way to learn to shoot. It is low recoil, cheap to shoot, fun, and builds skills quickly. I recommend going this route unless you are absolutely certain you want a bigger cartridge. If you do go the 22lr route, there are good offerings in the market by essentially everyone in the semiautomatic pistol world, but fewer options in the revolver world. A really good option in a revolver would be either of the small offerings from Ruger. A sp101 22 will not be cheap but it will last forever and be a great gun. The LCR 22 is a great gun if you want to eventually carry a gun for protection. It is much lighter than the sp101 and is very pleasant to shoot. A third option from Ruger would be a bearcat. They are small single action guns (cowboy style) which are a lot of fun, but don't lend themselves to being much in the line of a trainer for anything larger. Last but not least Ruger has the SR22 which is a semiauto, but it is light enough without being too light and is another good value in the current market. Again, handle everything and pick one that feels good.
Thank you for a great detailed response.
Just wondering, I did shoot a 22 revolver at the range and it felt great, easy to aim and shoot, but then the guy at the store said that it won't do the job if I actually had to shoot someone....something about having to be at a certain distance?

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A .22 is better than nothing but is usually used to target shoot, train for a larger caliber, or hunt squirrels and rabbits, among other small game.

If you liked the revolver, you may like a full size (4-6 inch barrel) revolver in .38 special. The recoil is mild and it is, for many, the minimum caliber for self-defense. It was carried by police officers from the 1920's through the 1980's, when they switched to autos in 9mm and .45 ACP. I suggest a full size because it is fairly easy to shoot accurately, absorbs the recoil, is easy to maintain, and can be bought at a reasonable price. Ammunition is also reasonable in price. The classic revolver manufacturers for good used revolvers are Smith and Wesson, Ruger, and Colt.

You did not mention if you planned to use this for carry or leave it at home in the drawer. That information will assist myself and others in pointing you in the right direction.
 
A .22 is better than nothing but is usually used to target shoot, train for a larger caliber, or hunt squirrels and rabbits, among other small game.

If you liked the revolver, you may like a full size (4-6 inch barrel) revolver in .38 special. The recoil is mild and it is, for many, the minimum caliber for self-defense. It was carried by police officers from the 1920's through the 1980's, when they switched to autos in 9mm and .45 ACP. I suggest a full size because it is fairly easy to shoot accurately, absorbs the recoil, is easy to maintain, and can be bought at a reasonable price. Ammunition is also reasonable in price. The classic revolver manufacturers for good used revolvers are Smith and Wesson, Ruger, and Colt.

You did not mention if you planned to use this for carry or leave it at home in the drawer. That information will assist myself and others in pointing you in the right direction.
Some guy tried to enter my house just last week so I figure I buy one and just keep at home incase I need to use it.

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Hannamichy,
Welcome to THR. Sorry in advance for the long post.

My approach is a bit different to answering this question. First, determine what would you do if the situation you mentioned happened again. Obviously call 911 but police time varies. Do you have a room to retreat to or a way to vacate if necessary. Some money spent on a solid wood bedroom or bathroom door with a strengthened frame as well as hardening the outside of your doors and windows might be useful. Do you have an alarm service? Are children or others in the home, etc. Do you live a high risk lifestyle? Are there others that have threatened you that you know? etc. The idea is to have a plan for your home and outside of your home for your personal safety and adapted to your unique circumstances.

Some decent authors regarding personal safety include Ed Lovette and Dave Spaulding--Defensive Living, Personal Defense for Women (Gila Hayes), Paxton Quigley, Massad Ayoob 6th Edition of Combat Handgunnery and one of his most recent work Deadly Force.

Directly on the question posed.
I have small hands with short fingers and have found that some revolvers and pistols work fine while others do not. If you have a gun range around you that rents firearms, I would suggest trying those out. Better yet, many ranges have basic firearm safety and familiarization where they allow you to select a firearm that fits and then teach you some of the basics including live-fire. Generally speaking, a firearm that fits will not require you to shift your grip when you fire and should be in a straight line with the bones of your forearm. An ill-fitting firearm will cause you to be less accurate than you can be.

You may also consider getting a long gun--either a shotgun, pistol carbine, or a rifle. Beginners generally shoot long guns more accurately than handguns. Shotguns, in particular, may also be cheaper. These are very useful if you are planning to hole up in a safe room and use them as the last resort.

My advice is to get some training and familiarization with a variety of firearms first and then buy one. NRA offers First Step basic familiarization and the Refuse to be a Victim which is also important, You may find there are other basic classes around. If you are in a state that requires training for a carry permit, then those might be an option even if you do not plan to carry outside of the home.

Ultimately, training and knowledge are more important than the choice of firearm or even caliber.
 
Hannamichy, where do you live?

This forum has some really friendly members that know firearms and like to introduce new folks to our community.

I ask because I have taken new shooters Ive met through the internet to local ranges, gun shops and gun shows to help them.

If you ask, you might find a few members who would gladly meet you and go to the range or gun show. We have a big one in Houston this weekend and I am taking a new shooter to their first show.

Sometimes these things can be a bit intimidating, having a knowledgeable friend can help.


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Welcome to the forum.
What you have already seen is good advice. I am partial to Ruger revolvers, but Smith and Wesson and Colt are also great companies. Some people like Taurus, but I have no personal experience with them so can't tell you anything beyond what Google can.
I caution you to not discount semi-automatics (I am guessing that is the "normal" gun you mentioned) just because of one bad experience. They are all a little different, and you may like some, and hate others. For example, my wife absolutely hated the Sig Sauer P226 she shot (generally considered a high-quality gun), but loves her FNP9. It just fits her hands better.
Now, if you would indulge me with a couple other bits of advice. I am a relative newcommer to the world of guns, and it seems that you are as well.
First, I would like to recommend you go to www.corneredcat.com if you haven't already. It is an excellent collection of thought provoking articles which can really help you get up to speed with all the "other stuff" around owning a firearm and self defense that most beginners wouldn't even think about. It helped me and my wife when we took our first steps a few years ago.
Second, when getting a gun, it is more important to get one that you like to shoot and worry about caliber later. Unlike what Hollywood tells us, most people cannot just pick up a handgun and put the bullets where they want. It takes practice. A gun you don't like to shoot, for any reason, will not get taken out of the drawer for practice, and if you don't practice every once in a while, you stand a good chance of making a mistake if you ever do REALLY need it, and that mistake might be a very costly and dangerous one.
Lastly, don't expect to get it all figured out right at the first. You might buy a gun, thinking it will be great, and then find out you don't actually like it. I sold my first gun less than 3 years after I bought it. It just wasn't as good for me as I had hoped.
Hope some of what we have said has helped.
 
As you've already seen, there are lots of folks with a lot of knowledge to offer. Maybe to help narrow it down, what is your price range? This will help some of us narrow things down a bit. Are you opposed to buying a pre-owned pistol? Do you have any friends that shoot frequently or even infrequently but still own firearms?

I just recently bought a Glock 42. It's chambered in .380 ACP which is a fairly small caliber, but certainly plenty enough power to stop any intruder. It's a small gun and fits my small (small for a man) hands very very well. I'm not a Glock fan and have always owned Springfield Armory pistols, but I will say that this pistol is absolutely perfect. Perfect for ME. Like others have said, you need to find a large retail store or even a smaller store with a good selection of pistols and somebody working behind the counter with patience and understanding that will let you physically hold each pistol and maybe even give you some helpful advice on your grip perhaps.

The photo I'm attaching may help give you an idea as for the size of this pistol compared to a man with hands a bit larger than mine.

Also, like another member brought up...your location would be helpful in case there were a member nearby that would be willing to take you to the range and give you some pointers.
 

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If simply a house defense gun and a range practice target plinker, and you had good success with the .22 revolver.... Then I would suggest a 4 inch revolver chambered in .38 special as adequate for the task.

Easy to load, and easy to shoot. Very accurate and manageable recoil. Buy a speedloader for a spare quick reload.

Suggest Smith and Wesson Model 64, Model 67 or a Model 686 all 4 inch barrel.
Suggest Ruger Model GP100 with a 3 inch barrel.

Hold them all for fit and feel. The Model 686 would be the heaviest.
 
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