Buck Kramer
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I wouldn't overlook the XD(M) series, I have about 1,000 through mine with only 1 hiccup.
I limp-wristed the first shot
I limp-wristed the first shot
First gun purchase (9mm) - Need assistance - Thank you for your help.
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Out of the ones you listed I'd, with out a doubt, get the HK USP tac. But realistically I'd get a Glock g19 for a few hundred less an put the $ you saved into range gear like a nice ammo bag, earmuffs, safety glasses, a cleaning kit, and of course ammo. Just about everyone I've gotten into shooting has started with either some glock or a s&w 38 revolver. Glocks are just so easy to learn the "basics", easy to maintain, customizable to an extent, and cheap.
If you want a better looking and feeling pistol (in my opinion of course) I'd also check out the rugers sr9. I bought one 2 years ago and I've never had any sort of jam or issue with it and you can find them brand new for $400-450 all day. Its a very nice American built pistol at a great price. Cant go wrong.
If you want a better looking and feeling pistol (in my opinion of course) I'd also check out the rugers sr9. I bought one 2 years ago and I've never had any sort of jam or issue with it and you can find them brand new for $400-450 all day. Its a very nice American built pistol at a great price. Cant go wrong.
Tex4426
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As for the cz...takedown is a breeze...slide the slide back a 1/4 inch pop out the slide pin and ur done
Referencing the Browning Hi Power:
Definitely a world combat proven platform that's often overlooked, has great ergonomics and is just a fun gun to shoot.
Went to the range earlier today, 200+ effortless rounds combined with some movement, back to the range tomorrow for some of the same. It makes for a comfortable IWB carry, even in the Arizona heat.
Lots of great choices mentioned thus far, I'd like to add that if a 1911 is in the future to have the DA/SA decocker operate in the same direction as the 1911 slide safety. One of the reasons I don't shoot the Beretta M96 more is because the decocker operates opposite that of the BHP/1911, or even the P220 SAO.
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Walking Dead
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bluethunder1962
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Just bought a berretta 92fs. I will be taking it to my grave.
meanmrmustard
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I'm of the frame of mind that if you can hold the weapon, shoot it, and make a decision afterwards the better of you'd be. Here's my list, in order of what IMO are fine starter rides in descending order:
CZ75
Glock 19 (only because I personally only like the compacts, nothing bigger or smaller)
EAA Witness Match
P226
M&P 9
Sigma sw9ve
That's my take on good, reliable weapons for a beginner. YMMV, good luck
CZ75
Glock 19 (only because I personally only like the compacts, nothing bigger or smaller)
EAA Witness Match
P226
M&P 9
Sigma sw9ve
That's my take on good, reliable weapons for a beginner. YMMV, good luck
Unemployedshooter
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I've owned/shot Glocks, M&Ps, XDs, Berettas, and some others. Would recommend all of the above. Hell, my Taurus 24/7 Gen 1 only FTE'd once. Find a reliable gun you can shoot accurately and comfortably. Try'em all.
I recently decided to buy a 9mm range gun, after avoiding them for four decades of shooting. Roughly the same budget as yours. Went with a Generation3 Glock 34, even though I'm a long-time 1911 and S&W revolver shooter. The 34 is Glock's "competition" 9mm, and costs a little more than their service pistols. You get a longer slide/barrel/sight radius, a lighter trigger, and adjustable sights. The slide is also milled to lighten it's mass.
I've only had about half an hour (100 rds +/-) shooting time with it, but I like it. I think it will better both my 1911s in accuracy, and is a real pleasure to shoot. It's a completely different animal than I'm used to, but I'm learning to shoot it well.
It was just under $700 out the door, with taxes and fees. The remaining budget will buy 5000 rounds of reloads or 3500 rounds of new ammo. No regrets here - I could have bought a more expensive gun, but this one does everything I was looking for in a range gun. Accurate, soft shooting, durable, and reliable - what more do I need?
I've only had about half an hour (100 rds +/-) shooting time with it, but I like it. I think it will better both my 1911s in accuracy, and is a real pleasure to shoot. It's a completely different animal than I'm used to, but I'm learning to shoot it well.
It was just under $700 out the door, with taxes and fees. The remaining budget will buy 5000 rounds of reloads or 3500 rounds of new ammo. No regrets here - I could have bought a more expensive gun, but this one does everything I was looking for in a range gun. Accurate, soft shooting, durable, and reliable - what more do I need?
WinThePennant
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With my dying breath... Sig P229 Stainless Elite.
Beautiful handgun.
Beautiful handgun.
Raoul_Duke
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To start my 2nd post, I didn't realize the Sig P220 was generally .45 the only reason I mentioned it at all was because all the guns I listed were 9mms that I have already picked up at my local gun store and liked how they felt in hand.
And no need to try to tailor suit this gun to cover all bases as far as conceal carry or anything like that as this gun will strictly be a range gun. I intend on getting 4 pistols in total to cover all the different functions I want before I even think about getting any fun guns just for the hell of it. The first of which being a 9mm range gun that I want to be the best of the 4. The next being a .45 for home security / stopping power (of which i'm already leaning 1911). With the third being something for the misses for conceal carry and needs to fire every time so I figure a snub nose revolver or small glock. The 4th being a Conceal carry for myself of which I have no clue at this point, don't really feel the need to carry as I don't live in a bad area and can't remember the last time I've been in a risky situation so this is the last priority.
Other then that I have 0% interest in SMGS, assault rifles, or shotguns *unless I'm mistaken in thinking sawed off shotguns are illegal, because It seems like a nice easy home protector for the misses*. I want to first start with pistols and then sometime or another I'd love to get into precision rifle shooting.
Unfortunately though for those telling me to try the gun before buying the only 3 gun ranges nearby me don't carry any of the guns i've been considering. Which is a bummer, i've been reaching out to friends and friends of friends though trying to see if anyone has any of the guns i'm interested in to see how they feel.
Lastly before I go onto address individual posts I have a list of all the guns available to me currently at my local store in 9mm variety.
999-HK USp9
999-HK USp Vari
949-HK P30-V3
I wasn't aware of the difference between Sig & SigArms & US & German so I didn't realize to take any special notice so these could be any of the 4.
1699-Sig P226X5
1299-Sig p226R
1199-Sig P226R Elite Dark
1149-Sig P226R Exete
999-Sig P226
999-Sig P226 MK25
849-Sig P226 (different store but the main store with all the other models offers price matching)
1199-Sig P229 Elite SS
1199-Sig P229
1199-Sig P229R
1099-Sig P229
1069-Sig Centerfire P229
949-Sig P229
Telekinesis:
Ahh yes thank you for correcting me I did in fact mean no-subcompacts. And thanks for the 411 in regards to German sigs vs American sigs. I noticed at the gun store that some of the Sigs said SigArms on them which to my understanding is the name of the US importer for Sigs, since they are an importer would that mean any gun labeled as SigArms was made in Germany & then Imported by SigArms or am I misunderstanding things?
Plouffedaddy:
Thanks for mention the action, I didn't think to put this as it's not of the biggest concern to me. I don't really like the way the striker looks (if its the one i'm thinking of where there is no hammer), as far as SA/DA no preference really provided the shooting mechanics would recock the gun if it was strictly SA such as the 1911.
robinkevin:
I only mentioned 4" minimum because I really do want this gun to be as accurate as can be so as I pour a couple thousand rounds thru it I will not have reached some brick wall of distance that I can't get past due to gun mechanics and not lack of accuracy-skill on the operator end.
ATLDave:
Thanks for addressing the safety, I forgot to mention anything. Really a safety doesn't matter at all to me, I figure as long as its not some hair-trigger my finger not squeezing the hammer will be sufficient enough so I don't want to limit myself in the slightest by opting for a safety. However if safety is an option I'd prefer it just to be a simple switch/button and not one where I have to pull the slide back or anything funny like that.
rellascout:
I completely forgot about the ability to smith guns and tweak them to perfection, I did realize there were customization parts and what have you but overlooked the tweaking of the gun itself aspect, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Shadow 7D:
I don't know why I put 1500 as my cap as that was just a number I threw out there I honestly could spend up to 5k in total on just the gun itself and not feel butt hurt about it in the slightest provided it did what it advertised it would do for the price. I realize range fees are expensive so as soon as I get a gun I plan on joining a club where I can shoot as frequently as I like for as cheap as possible. Also that is why I'm going for the 9mm for cheapness of ammo.
Kymasabe:
Thank you, accuracy is a huge deal to me as it's going to be the go to range and will be pouring thousand of rounds thru. And I have picked a P226 up and it felt great in hand.
To everyone else - I just responded to posters in order from first to last and by the time I got to Kymasabe I felt I covered all my bases as far as the real questions/things I missed were concerned.
Thank you so much for your advice so far & taking the time to read thru a somewhat longer post that might make some people :banghead:.
And no need to try to tailor suit this gun to cover all bases as far as conceal carry or anything like that as this gun will strictly be a range gun. I intend on getting 4 pistols in total to cover all the different functions I want before I even think about getting any fun guns just for the hell of it. The first of which being a 9mm range gun that I want to be the best of the 4. The next being a .45 for home security / stopping power (of which i'm already leaning 1911). With the third being something for the misses for conceal carry and needs to fire every time so I figure a snub nose revolver or small glock. The 4th being a Conceal carry for myself of which I have no clue at this point, don't really feel the need to carry as I don't live in a bad area and can't remember the last time I've been in a risky situation so this is the last priority.
Other then that I have 0% interest in SMGS, assault rifles, or shotguns *unless I'm mistaken in thinking sawed off shotguns are illegal, because It seems like a nice easy home protector for the misses*. I want to first start with pistols and then sometime or another I'd love to get into precision rifle shooting.
Unfortunately though for those telling me to try the gun before buying the only 3 gun ranges nearby me don't carry any of the guns i've been considering. Which is a bummer, i've been reaching out to friends and friends of friends though trying to see if anyone has any of the guns i'm interested in to see how they feel.
Lastly before I go onto address individual posts I have a list of all the guns available to me currently at my local store in 9mm variety.
999-HK USp9
999-HK USp Vari
949-HK P30-V3
I wasn't aware of the difference between Sig & SigArms & US & German so I didn't realize to take any special notice so these could be any of the 4.
1699-Sig P226X5
1299-Sig p226R
1199-Sig P226R Elite Dark
1149-Sig P226R Exete
999-Sig P226
999-Sig P226 MK25
849-Sig P226 (different store but the main store with all the other models offers price matching)
1199-Sig P229 Elite SS
1199-Sig P229
1199-Sig P229R
1099-Sig P229
1069-Sig Centerfire P229
949-Sig P229
Telekinesis:
Ahh yes thank you for correcting me I did in fact mean no-subcompacts. And thanks for the 411 in regards to German sigs vs American sigs. I noticed at the gun store that some of the Sigs said SigArms on them which to my understanding is the name of the US importer for Sigs, since they are an importer would that mean any gun labeled as SigArms was made in Germany & then Imported by SigArms or am I misunderstanding things?
Plouffedaddy:
Thanks for mention the action, I didn't think to put this as it's not of the biggest concern to me. I don't really like the way the striker looks (if its the one i'm thinking of where there is no hammer), as far as SA/DA no preference really provided the shooting mechanics would recock the gun if it was strictly SA such as the 1911.
robinkevin:
I only mentioned 4" minimum because I really do want this gun to be as accurate as can be so as I pour a couple thousand rounds thru it I will not have reached some brick wall of distance that I can't get past due to gun mechanics and not lack of accuracy-skill on the operator end.
ATLDave:
Thanks for addressing the safety, I forgot to mention anything. Really a safety doesn't matter at all to me, I figure as long as its not some hair-trigger my finger not squeezing the hammer will be sufficient enough so I don't want to limit myself in the slightest by opting for a safety. However if safety is an option I'd prefer it just to be a simple switch/button and not one where I have to pull the slide back or anything funny like that.
rellascout:
I completely forgot about the ability to smith guns and tweak them to perfection, I did realize there were customization parts and what have you but overlooked the tweaking of the gun itself aspect, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Shadow 7D:
I don't know why I put 1500 as my cap as that was just a number I threw out there I honestly could spend up to 5k in total on just the gun itself and not feel butt hurt about it in the slightest provided it did what it advertised it would do for the price. I realize range fees are expensive so as soon as I get a gun I plan on joining a club where I can shoot as frequently as I like for as cheap as possible. Also that is why I'm going for the 9mm for cheapness of ammo.
Kymasabe:
Thank you, accuracy is a huge deal to me as it's going to be the go to range and will be pouring thousand of rounds thru. And I have picked a P226 up and it felt great in hand.
To everyone else - I just responded to posters in order from first to last and by the time I got to Kymasabe I felt I covered all my bases as far as the real questions/things I missed were concerned.
Thank you so much for your advice so far & taking the time to read thru a somewhat longer post that might make some people :banghead:.
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coolluke01
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If you want a pretty gun there are many options. If you want utter reliability and usefulness I would get a Glock.
I have a 34 that I just love. It's a gen 4. I really like my Gen 4 26 too.
With the replaceable backstraps the Gen 4 gives you options for grip fit.
Being a new shooter I would steer you to the Glock because you have little experience with other grip styles and have no "bad" habits formed. The grip angle of the Glock has been developed to be the best angle to counteract recoil and provide faster followup shots.
Many are going to say "well Glocks don't point right for me" or "we all have different hands" or my 1911 was designed by god himself and nothing is better.
The truth is that Glocks grip angle makes a world of difference. Most people that don't like it are just used to a different gun and that's why it feels strange to them. And that's just fine. No sense trying to learn something new if you really don't need to. It works for them let them continue on as they have for 101 years.
You are a new shooter and have the opportunity to start off on the right foot.
Don't think that just because you pay $1000 + for a gun that it will be perfect. Many expensive guns can be fickle. It sounds like you want it to just work! It's hard to beat the track record that Glock has.
Plus then you can show those XD wannabes how things are done. Please don't buy a gun that was made in croatia!
I have a 34 that I just love. It's a gen 4. I really like my Gen 4 26 too.
With the replaceable backstraps the Gen 4 gives you options for grip fit.
Being a new shooter I would steer you to the Glock because you have little experience with other grip styles and have no "bad" habits formed. The grip angle of the Glock has been developed to be the best angle to counteract recoil and provide faster followup shots.
Many are going to say "well Glocks don't point right for me" or "we all have different hands" or my 1911 was designed by god himself and nothing is better.
The truth is that Glocks grip angle makes a world of difference. Most people that don't like it are just used to a different gun and that's why it feels strange to them. And that's just fine. No sense trying to learn something new if you really don't need to. It works for them let them continue on as they have for 101 years.
You are a new shooter and have the opportunity to start off on the right foot.
Don't think that just because you pay $1000 + for a gun that it will be perfect. Many expensive guns can be fickle. It sounds like you want it to just work! It's hard to beat the track record that Glock has.
Plus then you can show those XD wannabes how things are done. Please don't buy a gun that was made in croatia!
I'm far down the list on knowledge of the various guns mentioned so far. I'm still too new at this to recommend any specific handgun to you.
I will make one recommendation that I followed when I bought my first (and only so far) handgun (Sig SP2022 in 9mm - love it): Buy new. Some here may argue, but if you are just getting started, get that warranty backing you up. Know that a previous owner hasn't done something bad to that gun. Once you have been around guns for a time, and you have gained knowledge and experience, then you can start looking at used.
My only other piece of advice would be to shoot as many of your options as you can before buying. Something may feel good in your hand until you pull the trigger. I realize that rentals are limited. Most shooters are willing to let you shoot their handguns if you approach it/them properly.
With your stated budget, you should have no trouble finding something that you will enjoy for many years to come. You may even be able to buy a Sig or CZ in both 9mm & .22LR! Just don't be in too big a hurry. The guns will be there tomorrow. Provided our politicians don't try to take them away...
I will make one recommendation that I followed when I bought my first (and only so far) handgun (Sig SP2022 in 9mm - love it): Buy new. Some here may argue, but if you are just getting started, get that warranty backing you up. Know that a previous owner hasn't done something bad to that gun. Once you have been around guns for a time, and you have gained knowledge and experience, then you can start looking at used.
My only other piece of advice would be to shoot as many of your options as you can before buying. Something may feel good in your hand until you pull the trigger. I realize that rentals are limited. Most shooters are willing to let you shoot their handguns if you approach it/them properly.
With your stated budget, you should have no trouble finding something that you will enjoy for many years to come. You may even be able to buy a Sig or CZ in both 9mm & .22LR! Just don't be in too big a hurry. The guns will be there tomorrow. Provided our politicians don't try to take them away...
Telekinesis
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I'm not exactly sure about the aspect of the naming, but I believe that SigArms is a Sig Sauer subsidiary located in the US, meaning it is an American made Sig. The frames are still made in Germany though. Honestly the easiest way to tell the country of manufacture is to look on the slide of the gun. If it was manufactured in Germany (or West Germany), it will say so.
Another thing to look for is proof marks on the underside of the slide. Basically take the gun in your hand, flip it over like you're looking into the mag well, and then look at the muzzle end. A German gun will have 3 proof marks arranged vertically. An American gun will not.
And yet another good measure is price. It is not always accurate, but it has been quite a while since Sigs were completely manufactured in Germany. The ones that were are usually used and are between $500-700 depending on condition. A good bit less than the typical $1200 for a brand new gun!
I see what you're saying, but I don't completely agree. If you just want a new gun, that's fine. But if you're buying new just because of the warranty, make sure that the company is actually easy to deal with (remember, "HK, because you suck and we hate you"
). And also realize how much you're spending for that peace of mind. You can find older but still NIB sigs for around $700, that means that on a $1200 gun (new) you're putting about $500 towards that warranty...Not to pull us too far off topic, but short barreled shotguns are actually legal, you just have to register them with the Fed Gov and pay a $200 tax and wait for them to approve it. Its really not that difficult if you want to get into NFA weapons, if you can pass a background check for a pistol, you can own anything. They're actually regulated the same as machine guns (almost) and suppressors/silencers (gunshots indoors are LOUD!).
Also, if you're looking at a strictly home defense weapon, you might want to rethink the "assault rifles". Long guns are MUCH easier to aim and fire (especially at speed) and a .223 from an AR 15 will actually penetrate less dry wall than a 9mm, .45 ACP, or buck shot. The high velocity of the round causes it to break apart faster than other rounds. And if you're willing to get into the NFA world with it, putting a short barrel on it and a suppressor would make quite the home defense weapon
you also have the added benefits of a much more lethal round with roughly double the capacity of a standard service sized pistol. Last but not least, on the topic of concealed carry... I don't just carry my pistol when I think something bad will happen, or if I'm going somewhere dangerous. If you're looking for terminal ballistics, pistols absolutely suck when compared to rifles. If I'm going somewhere where I think I'm going to have to shoot someone, I'm either going to leave, or I'm going to bring a rifle, armor, and ammo, and a lot of friends with rifles, armor, and ammo. I carry a pistol when I think nothing will happen, but I still want to be prepared for that one random, chance encounter when someone may think that my wallet is worth more than my life.
Tex4426
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for your first as a range only gun im going cz 75 sp-01 all the way...all steel construction..extremely accurate without mods straight out of the box with i believe a 4.75" hammer forged barrel...trigger breaks in around 500 rounds and is very good for a factory trigger...if you want a whole new trigger experience,,sent it to CZ custom shop for a trigger job...the trigger will blow your mind
If you're really wanting to get into high priced guns, go with the HK or 1911 market. If I were to go with a 9mm 1911, I'd go for a Springfield Armory EMP. STI might make a 9mm 1911 as well. The Beretta's can be on the high priced side, but you can find some good deals too.
I see someone else suggested the FN line, which just introduced a striker fired version as well like Glock. I also reccomend Glocks, but some people HATE the grip angle, so maybe try one out first if you go that route.
I don't have any experience with Sig's, but if I were to buy one it would be the P2022. They go for around $400 and from what I've read, people are really impressed with it's quaility for such a low price.
Good luck wading through all the suggestions, but picking out what will fill a certain niche is part of the fun.
TimboKhan
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Honestly, you haven't mentioned a single gun that I wouldn't own.
With that being said, don't assume that more money means a better gun. My cheapest pistol is a regular old XD that did NOT come with all the accessories, thus meaning that it was priced right at $400.00. I am not saying it is the king of all pistols, but thus far it has been, hands down, my personal favorite 9mm pistol.
On the flip side, I also own a $1000.00 handgun, specifically the Sig Scorpion .45. I like it a ton. But other than caliber, I cannot truthfully say that I have any more or less faith in my XD than I do my Sig. My point here isn't to give you economic advice, because ultimately I could care less what you spend on a particular gun. My point is simply to say that the price on a gun isn't a good measure of quality or reliability.
Case in point, I shot a Ruger P90 for something approaching 15 years. I paid about $325 for it, new. (actually, I traded for it, but that is a long, sad story). That gun had a ton of ammo put through it and it served me well right up until I sold it. That pistol earned my trust over years of excellent, occasionally hard, service. Other guns are and were much, much nicer than my humble Ruger, but none of them, and I mean not a single one, could have bettered my Ruger in reliability, and darn few of them could have shot better. I sold it after all that time to finance another gun purchase, and that was the only reason.
With that being said, don't assume that more money means a better gun. My cheapest pistol is a regular old XD that did NOT come with all the accessories, thus meaning that it was priced right at $400.00. I am not saying it is the king of all pistols, but thus far it has been, hands down, my personal favorite 9mm pistol.
On the flip side, I also own a $1000.00 handgun, specifically the Sig Scorpion .45. I like it a ton. But other than caliber, I cannot truthfully say that I have any more or less faith in my XD than I do my Sig. My point here isn't to give you economic advice, because ultimately I could care less what you spend on a particular gun. My point is simply to say that the price on a gun isn't a good measure of quality or reliability.
Case in point, I shot a Ruger P90 for something approaching 15 years. I paid about $325 for it, new. (actually, I traded for it, but that is a long, sad story). That gun had a ton of ammo put through it and it served me well right up until I sold it. That pistol earned my trust over years of excellent, occasionally hard, service. Other guns are and were much, much nicer than my humble Ruger, but none of them, and I mean not a single one, could have bettered my Ruger in reliability, and darn few of them could have shot better. I sold it after all that time to finance another gun purchase, and that was the only reason.
Walking Dead
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+1 to the Sig SP2022. Very good shooter. Rediculous good when you consider the price.
I've got two suggestions that might meet the criteria. I own both and they're both extremely reliable even with cheap ammo and are known for both durability and reliability.
Springfield XDM 4.5: This gun is accurate, comfortable, has a high capacity, and comes with a very nice carrying case. It is a striker fired gun with a great trigger known for its reliability and durability, just like the XD series. Average price runs around $600 around here. If you run a quick Google search for failure reports on this gun and they are extremely rare. I've heard alot of people speak highly of these guns and I'm proud to own one myself. Only 3 jams in over 4.5k rounds makes this gun one of the most reliable I've ever owned...some have reported higher round counts with no issues. Even if I got one of the "lemons" that jams every 1000+ rounds I'm still satisfied.
CZ75B: These guns have proven themselves in the shooting world by being amazingly accurate, full sized, hammer fired guns that rarely have failures. I've yet to have to clear a jam in mine about 1.5k rounds in and doubt I'll have to any time soon. Overall experience with this model seems to be overwhelmingly positive. There are alot of CZ fans out there who have had great experiences with this gun. Price is around $550 in my area.
Both are great choices and won't disappoint. They're a hit no matter where you go whether in the company of novice shooters or experts, they're both still well respected pistols.
Springfield XDM 4.5: This gun is accurate, comfortable, has a high capacity, and comes with a very nice carrying case. It is a striker fired gun with a great trigger known for its reliability and durability, just like the XD series. Average price runs around $600 around here. If you run a quick Google search for failure reports on this gun and they are extremely rare. I've heard alot of people speak highly of these guns and I'm proud to own one myself. Only 3 jams in over 4.5k rounds makes this gun one of the most reliable I've ever owned...some have reported higher round counts with no issues. Even if I got one of the "lemons" that jams every 1000+ rounds I'm still satisfied.
CZ75B: These guns have proven themselves in the shooting world by being amazingly accurate, full sized, hammer fired guns that rarely have failures. I've yet to have to clear a jam in mine about 1.5k rounds in and doubt I'll have to any time soon. Overall experience with this model seems to be overwhelmingly positive. There are alot of CZ fans out there who have had great experiences with this gun. Price is around $550 in my area.
Both are great choices and won't disappoint. They're a hit no matter where you go whether in the company of novice shooters or experts, they're both still well respected pistols.
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robinkevin
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Ok based off your second post I have to suggest a Hi Power or CZ-75 reason being is you mention that you are leaning towards a 1911 for home defense and the those two weapons on very close operation especially the Hi Power. Remember you will fight the way you train so if you train with the Hi Power you will be able to fight with the 1911. I agree on a snub nose revolver for ladies as they are simple and easy to shoot, my wife loves hers. Then at that point for conceal carry for yourself there is a lot of different weapons close in operation to the Hi Power/1911 for carry for you to choose from at that point.
Good luck in your search.
Good luck in your search.
dondavis3
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I like Sig Sauer guns.
Here is a Sig Sauer P226 Swiss Police Trade in that I bought for around $400
It showed a lot of holster wear on the slide - So I sent it to CCR for a $79 slide job.
I think it turned out well.
My favorite is a Sig P226 X5
A very nice moderately priced gun is a
S&W M&P Pro
There are a lot of fine guns on the market now.
Good luck with your search.
Here is a Sig Sauer P226 Swiss Police Trade in that I bought for around $400
It showed a lot of holster wear on the slide - So I sent it to CCR for a $79 slide job.
I think it turned out well.
My favorite is a Sig P226 X5
A very nice moderately priced gun is a
S&W M&P Pro
There are a lot of fine guns on the market now.
Good luck with your search.
Good thinking on a what to get in a first gun. Ifyou have the bucks to spend a Sig P210 is the gold standard in 9mm target pistols, or some version of a 1911. Those pieces are a bit out of my range, but I get terrific service from my Glock 17L and 34. The longer barrels really help my sighting for accurate shooting and wring the best performance out of the 9mm ammo. The guns themselves are well proven as reliable and durable and very long lived. They are also quite useful beyond the target range, making excellent defensive pistols.
If you're looking for something more unique, using that base 9mm Glock design Lone Wolf is making versions with their new grip frame that are supposed to be excellant or Robar makes a fully tricked out version using a replacement metal frame that is supposed to be an incredible gun.
As a another choice the Spring field XDM 5.25 or the S&W long barrel Pro would be great choices as we
If you're looking for something more unique, using that base 9mm Glock design Lone Wolf is making versions with their new grip frame that are supposed to be excellant or Robar makes a fully tricked out version using a replacement metal frame that is supposed to be an incredible gun.
As a another choice the Spring field XDM 5.25 or the S&W long barrel Pro would be great choices as we
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i would highly recommend at least handling a browning hi power before you buy anything. of all the handguns iv held and of the ones I own , nothing compares to the way the hi power feels.
with you budget id buy a MKIII hi power and get a trigger job.
with you budget id buy a MKIII hi power and get a trigger job.
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