First Smart Guns in New Jersey??

[cadfael]

From the AP wires:

CANBERRA, Australia - Australian gun maker Metal Storm Ltd. and the New Jersey Institute of Technology in the United States said Friday they had signed an agreement to manufacture a "smart gun" that can only be fired by its owner.


In a joint statement the company and the New Jersey Institute, which is based in Hoboken, N.J., said under the agreement they would combine Metal Storm's electronic handgun known as the O'Dwyer Vle, with the institute's "dynamic grip recognition" technology.


The institute's vice president for research and development, Donald H. Sebastian, said Metal Storm's electronic handgun is "the most viable option" for using its smart gun technology.


He said the gun would meet standards under New Jersey laws passed last year which require smart gun technology to be used in all new handguns sold three years after the state attorney general determines a smart gun prototype is safe and commercially available.


The owner would have his or her grip programmed at a gun shop or police range by practice-firing the weapon. A microchip in the weapon would remember the grip and determine in an instant whether the authorized user was holding the weapon. If not, the gun would not fire.


Metal Storm's Australian general manager Ian Gillespie said the new handgun would go into production in the next couple of years.


"It is it a very robust system that can work in all kinds of extreme conditions, left or right hand, whether you are wearing gloves or not, and even whether you are in muddy or wet conditions," he said. "It can also be programmed for multiple users if required."


Metal Storm shares climbed 41 percent to 60 Australian cents (38.4 cents) on the Australian Stock Exchange following the announcement.

 

[AZTOY]

The owner would have his or her grip programmed at a gun shop or police range by practice-firing the weapon. A microchip in the weapon would remember the grip and determine in an instant whether the authorized user was holding the weapon. If not, the gun would not fire.

But want happens when the battery dies!!

 

[WT]

This is not good news.

I knew that NJIT (in Newark, not Hoboken) was experimenting with the pressure grip technology. It was written up quite extensively in The New York Times. If it proves to be viable, I expect other states in the US to adopt similar laws.

Next on the list would be a law requiring retrofitting of existing firearms by changing to the "smart grips."

 

[Standing Wolf]

A microchip in the weapon would remember the grip and determine in an instant whether the authorized user was holding the weapon.

I thought leftist extremists were big believers in sharing.

 

[geekWithA.45]

I hate to say it but...

Ever since this incredibly naive and stupid law came out, I've been saying that we're going to be stuck with it in NJ until a family gets wiped out because the gun failed to recognize it's owner under stress.

It might take a couple of families, but gun controler's never cared about the defenseless ones that die because of their immoral, fraudulent, racist, corrupt and failed social(ist) experiment.

Eventually, they'll get the test case they've been praying for: the bad guy who gets a smart gun and it fails to work. (Whether it was the gun being smart, or malfunctioning won't matter) and they'll crow their alleged moral victory, shouting to the rooftops.

This can't be allowed to stand.

 

[MeekandMild]

Morons! If a BG can jimmy a car lock, start a car without a key, drive to an automatic teller and make a withdrawel with a fake PIN, hack into the company computer, forge checks, then when he finaly goes to jail make a gun from a radio antenna, some duct tape, a nail and a clothespin then he can jimmy a "smart gun".

They only call them smart because they're smarter than the anti whiners.

 

[alan]

If this Australian "device" is ever actually produced, and it's use mandated in N.J. for instance, who will be responsible when, not if, the thing "goes south", leading to the death or serious injury of one of the "good guys", otherwise known as a law abiding citizen?

 

[PeteyPete]

Well, that gives me 1095 days (3 years) to get outta this commie state!

btw...if they were cheap, i wouldn't mind owning a smartgun made by metal storm (O'Dwyer VLe )...i just don't the state telling me what i can or can't buy.

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

If this Australian "device" is ever actually produced, and it's use mandated in N.J. for instance, who will be responsible when, not if, the thing "goes south", leading to the death or serious injury of one of the "good guys", otherwise known as a law abiding citizen?

Not the politicos that foisted this thing. They exempted themselves.

- pdmoderator

 

[alan]

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If this Australian "device" is ever actually produced, and it's use mandated in N.J. for instance, who will be responsible when, not if, the thing "goes south", leading to the death or serious injury of one of the "good guys", otherwise known as a law abiding citizen?
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Not the politicos that foisted this thing. They exempted themselves.

- pdmoderator

pdmoderator responded to my post as above noted. possibly wishful thinking on my part, BUT if there happened to take place, a change in composition of their legislature, is anything really possible, the
"exemption" might well, retroactively, go the way of all flesh.

one questions the possibility/ability of the voters there to actually awaken, but it is claimed that anything is possible, is it?

By the way, on the makers web site, posted by another commentator, there was mention of BURST FIRE CAPABILITY. That sounds like a MACHINE GUN to me. Can one imagine the following, the ordinary law abiding citizen permittred to own a machine gun in N.J., even one equiped with AUTHORIZED USER TECHNOLOGY?

 

[geekWithA.45]

Besides the whole dubious recognition technology, most of the foriegn designs for "smart guns" are entirely dependent on proprietary,exotic electronically fired ammunition. The gun, or some major portion of it, must be reloaded at the manufacturer.

The current NJ law does not specify "commercially available ammunition", and so this could qualify.

The current NJ law exempts the state from liability for malfunction of a smart gun, and exempts the police from having to have it at all, despite the issue of the police having their weapons taken away by bad guys being the initial reason the law was proposed.

The law calls for them to pass "safety and function tests", but the nature of them, and the criterion for it is entirely the AG's call.

The other interesting this is the issue of them being "determined to be commercially available" by the AG anywhere in the US.

My proposal is a Unanimous Boycott by US FFL's of such firearms, upon pain of Unanimous Consumer Boycott of an FFL who crosses "The Liberty Line", and thus we can fend off "commercial availability" for as long as we need to.

 

[Graystar]

Metal Storm shares climbed 41 percent to 60 Australian cents (38.4 cents) on the Australian Stock Exchange following the announcement.

Lets hope they don't last 2 years.

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

By the way, on the makers web site, posted by another commentator, there was mention of BURST FIRE CAPABILITY. That sounds like a MACHINE GUN to me. Can one imagine the following, the ordinary law abiding citizen permittred to own a machine gun in N.J., even one equiped with AUTHORIZED USER TECHNOLOGY?

Yup. If you take a good look at how that Metalstorm stuff is set off, you'll see that firing it full auto is a piece of cake. (Having it blow up in your face is a piece of cake, too.)

Of course, only the police are permitted to go on rampages with machine guns here. (Two in the past couple of years borrowed department MP5s to settle personal scores.)

- pdmoderator