FL Paper Publishes CCW List

[craig]

countertop... you are correct. that is the publishers address. here's the editors(as revealed by an email response to their paper) Patrick Rice..1003 Sandra Dr. Mary Esther Fl. 32569. the reporters, Wendy Victora and Kari Barlow have not seen fit to release their addresses. but you can contact them at [email protected]... 1-850-863-1111.ex.478...karib@nwfdailynews.com..1-850-863-1111.ex440 they also have this number listed.. 1-800-755-1185. the publisher's [email protected].. the editor's [email protected].. editor's phone..1-850-863-1111. ex.400

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

Dan,
Thanks for your email.
We published this public information because we believe there is public
interest in knowing who in our area has a permit to carry a concealed
weapon in public. Also, it is a public record, and the people who have
concealed weapon permits appear to know it's a public record. We didn't
publish the list due to any political viewpoint. I personally believe
strongly in the Second Amendment right to bear arms. I also believe the
public has a right to know who is carrying loaded concealed weapons in
public places.
I hope this serves as an adequate answer to your email.
Pat Rice

No, Pat, you didn't do it because there is a public interest in knowing who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon in public. You did it because you ideologically oppose our having that right. Who do you think you're fooling?

Is the public really that concerned about possible criminal attack by those who have gone to the trouble of getting fingerprinted, photographed, background-checked, and undergone training in order to be allowed by the state of Florida to carry a concealed handgun? Really? Or is it more realistic to say that it would be those who have NOT gone out of their way to obtain LEGAL permission to carry a handgun are more worth worrying about?

I mean, if a person wants to go out and murder some member of the community using a handgun, are they going to be unable to do it if they don't have a CCW license? So, the dude down the street who's always causing trouble in the neighborhood -- if he isn't on your list, should we just assume he can never hurt us with a gun? He couldn't, of course, just take the pistol he bought legally but for which he doesn't have a concealed carry permit and bring it outside his house, down the block, and threaten us with it, right?

The Pat Rice guy is a lying a$$#0l3 of the first order. No wonder Dan didn't get any kind of honest answer out of him. HE knows that WE know what kind of b^lls#it he's pulling here.

-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

I just went here: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/access/help.html because I'm trying to search for the same info that was published by the paper in question, and I see that it does not provide for searching for the names of W permit holders (that's the designation of Concealed Carry licenses).

How/where does one search for the CCW licensees, anyway? I'm not finding it...

-Jeffrey

 

[countertop]

Just want to let you guys know that if you go to [URL="http://officialrecords.clerkofcourts.cc/]this web page[/URL] and do a search of the publisher's name you can find his and his wifes social security numbers as well as information on his mortgage, ex wife, and other family members. They are all available for free in the public records the court house publishes on the internet.

Finding info on Pat Rice and the managing editor seems more difficult, there's stuff there, but not as much. I assume they've lived in the area for less time.

 

[SJG26]

Note to self: Don't get on Countertop's Bad side......

way to go-------------------gotta luv technology

 

[RevDisk]

I feel bad about putting the info on his son up, but thought what goes around comes around. Do you folks think I should keep it up or take it down?

I'll dig the rest of the info up for Pat Rice and the Managing Editor sometime tonight.

Re the guy's son, I wouldn't personally. Going after family is not honourable. He had no decision in his father's activities.

Now, as for the information on all of the people actively involved, sure. They gave up any qualms about their own privacy when they invaded the privacy of others.

Be sure to include maps of the guy's house and even check out google's satellite maps.

 

[craig]

pat rice called me today. he's going to come by my work the next time he's in town, the office is right across the street. he did ask if i was going to cuss him or just yell at him. i told him no, that i wanted to explain that a lot of ccw'ers have reasons, aside from the 2nd amendment, for carrying. also that most ccw'ers do not really trust the gov. or the media because of their past performances and look upon the publishing of that list as another way to chip away our rights or make us out to be the bad guys because we don't want to depend on the gov. for protection. he also said that he's been rethinking posting the addresses along with the names. he did remove the d.o.b's on mon. and our names after my wife pointed out she has a crazy ex after her. maybe the calls and emails are making him think. thanks guys it seems to be working. i'm also trying to get an appointment with sen. peaden. he's customer of our store and the kid who works there's mom is the his secretary when he's in town. i'm gonna let him know that having this info available to just anybody is a bad idea. maybe we can get it changed to official use only. if and when mr. rice shows up i'll let you know how it went.

 

[Fred Fuller]

OK, so it's a public record. That means the public can view it whenever they want, right? So why is it necessary for the newspaper to PUBLISH a public record, UNLESS THERE IS AN AGENDA involved??

It stinketh... you FLidians should get your legislators to work changing this posthaste.

lpl/nc

 

[countertop]

FWIW - I took down the info.

First, i decided against posting his kids info as its not fair to the kid.

I ended up taking everything else down for the time being cause I want to think about how to handle this some before putting it up on the web.