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Full Auto Collection for Sale

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by leadaddict, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. leadaddict

    leadaddict Well-Known Member


    I saw this listed today in the Iowa classifieds on gunlistings.org. Unfortunately we normal Iowans can't even own these. Equally unfortunate, I don't have 70+ grand to drop on buying these anyway. I thought I'd post it here in case anyone had a big pile of Benjamins lying around that would want to exchange for some full auto fun.

    I am also wondering how much you think this lot will go for?

    One other question. Is it normal the sheriff to sell things like this for an individual, or does the sheriff likely "own" these?
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2014
  2. rtz

    rtz Well-Known Member

    4 guns for seventy grand? What a rip.
  3. Arizona_Mike

    Arizona_Mike Well-Known Member

    I don't think that is very far off considering 3 of the 4 guns fetch 5 figures routinely.

  4. Telekinesis

    Telekinesis Well-Known Member

    You must not deal with NFA weapons much.

    Depending on the specifics of the weapons it's definitely in the ballpark price wise (I don't know much about the prices of different variations of the WW2 MGs). Wish I could afford toys like that. For now I'm sticking with my cans and SBRs.
  5. Russian Hammer

    Russian Hammer Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a good deal to me, the Uzi is probably 10k+, Thompson 30k+, BAR at least 20k and the AR at least 15. That's just a guess cause I'm not up on current MG prices and it could be worth significantly more
  6. AlexanderA

    AlexanderA Well-Known Member

    The listing has a paucity of information. We don't know the exact models, the condition, etc. Nevertheless, $70,000 is not unreasonable as an opening bid. Consider that an AR-15 converted to FA goes for about $18,000 ($25,000 if it's a factory M16), an original BAR is in the $35,000 range, an M1928 Thompson is about $25,000, and an UZI is more than $10,000. That's potentially a total retail (depending on condition) of nearly $90,000. You have to discount that because of the fact that the bidding is open only to Class III dealers and they have to make a profit. They'd have to inspect the guns in person before they could make an intelligent bid.
  7. Midwest

    Midwest Well-Known Member

    I wonder if any of the Class III FFL's here on THR might be interested in these.

  8. leadaddict

    leadaddict Well-Known Member

    Yes, 70K is just the opening bid. Thanks for the guesses. Sorry, I couldn't find any pictures. I was hoping I could find a more thorough listing somewhere else, but couldn't in the few minutes I had. I'll search a little more later.
  9. ultratec1

    ultratec1 Well-Known Member

    I am wondering where they came from? It is a Sheriffs auction so did the sheriffs office just have these on hand or were they seized items?
  10. PBR Streetgang

    PBR Streetgang Well-Known Member

    No matter where they came from the Sheriffs dept can only sell these guns if they were legally registered. They could possibly be surrendered guns due to the death of the owner.
  11. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Would it even be possible to transfer guns (legally) or name a Sheriff's department for executor of an estate for something like this?
  12. hq

    hq Well-Known Member

    It's been interesting to see how prices of MG:s have risen since 1986. From my non-US point of view $70k for four guns sounds outrageous, considering that yesterday I bought a very nice Maxim 1910/30 complete with Sokolov mount and plenty of accessories and a truly pristine M31 Suomi SMG for a package price of $1390. Things change a bit when the supply isn't limited to guns registered prior to an arbitrary date... :)
  13. plodder

    plodder Well-Known Member

    Sure, rub it in HQ! :banghead:
  14. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    .... say what...???

    Can you own ANY full auto in Finland?

    Because damn, I might just retire there if so. :)
  15. That's just cruel man...:(
  16. anothernewb

    anothernewb Well-Known Member

    That's just cold. -but kudos on the appropriate jab.
  17. hq

    hq Well-Known Member

    As long as you're a registered gun collector and your approved collecting plan (basically a long list of firearms you want to collect with an explanation of their relevance to your collection) has the particular firearm in it, you can buy, modify or build pretty much anything. There's quite a bit of red tape involved, but jump through the hoops, get your collector status, have your "shopping list" approved and you're in market for some serious hardware. Maxim is way older than anything else in my collection but it was still explainable so I just had to have it... to save a piece of history.
  18. Ironman

    Ironman Well-Known Member

    What other guns to your have in your collection HQ? :)
  19. tepin

    tepin Well-Known Member

    A transferable lightning link runs $10K and probably costs $2.00 to make... back in the day. $70K is probably about right.
  20. Gtscotty

    Gtscotty Well-Known Member

    So, of course these machine guns have to be sold through a class 3 dealer, but why does the ad say they have to be sold TO a class 3 dealer? Are they dealer samples?

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